Post PE Workers Party - The next Leg

[scroobal]

Marshall started it in 57. JBJ took over in 72, followed by Low on 01. Until 2011' over 44 years, they had a total of 23 fallow years. In between, 3 of them secured seats in Parliament. Marshall, 61, JBJ in 81 and 84 and Low in 91' 97, 01, 06.

In 2011, they spectacularly took out 2 cabinet ministers, one senior Minister of State and a named potential minister and captured the single political obstacle - a GRC. In the process, they placed 3 Chinese, 1 Malay and 1 Indian (Sikh), a multi-racial opposition presence in parliament for the first time since Independence.

In 2012, they overcame a serious party setback and recaptured Hougang and giant killed a few months later in Punggol East.

With 7 MPs and 2 NCMPs, the law of diminishing marginal return sets in. The by elections effect begins to wane. Singaporeans have their needs met in the nice and constructive criticism category. Are they looking for change, something quicker or are they happy to coast along.

The next leg would be most important, from being a co-driver to be being the new potential driver. It is no longer about helping the current driver.


Are the Fox and Vixen up to it? My guess is that they will be. But it require a paradigm shift in local politics or even in a conventional Westminster sense. What form would that shift be?

 

[steffychun]

Marshall started it in 57. JBJ took over in 72, followed by Low on 01. Until 2011' over 44 years, they had a total of 23 fallow years. In between, 3 of them secured seats in Parliament. Marshall, 61, JBJ in 81 and 84 and Low in 91' 97, 01, 06.

In 2011, they spectacularly took out 2 cabinet ministers, one senior Minister of State and a named potential minister and captured the single political obstacle - a GRC. In the process, they placed 3 Chinese, 1 Malay and 1 Indian (Sikh), a multi-racial opposition presence in parliament for the first time since Independence.

In 2012, they overcame a serious party setback and recaptured Hougang and giant killed a few months later in Punggol East.

With 7 MPs and 2 NCMPs, the law of diminishing marginal return sets in. The by elections effect begins to wane. Singaporeans have their needs met in the nice and constructive criticism category. Are they looking for change, something quicker or are they happy to coast along.

The next leg would be most important, from being a co-driver to be being the new potential driver. It is no longer about helping the current driver.


Are the Fox and Vixen up to it? My guess is that they will be. But it require a paradigm shift in local politics or even in a conventional Westminster sense. What form would that shift be?

correction: potential Speaker of the House. Due to that, Michael Palmer was chosen as speaker. This lead to Palmergate and thus PE BE 2013 but with Halimah taking over as Speaker.

The next leg is to get policy 2.0 working. Re-emphasise on the party manifesto for 2011. Allocate each MP/NCMP policies to tackle and tackle Ministers in parliament. Secure a group of both online and local fans.

 

[Dreamer1]

Thank you Brother Scroobal,good analysis,it is a God given weapon to kill PAP in 2016,let's watch how WP perform today in Parliament,are they prepared to take over?

 

[FredTan76]

U all suar killing PAP is possible in 2015/6?
Will be lucky to get additional 5/6 muar seats in next GE

 

[steffychun]

Thank you Brother Scroobal,good analysis,it is a God given weapon to kill PAP in 2016,let's watch how WP perform today in Parliament,are they prepared to take over?

At present state, I can't view a WP parliament except maybe Pritam Singh. Low already qualified that WP isn't at the take over stage yet

 

[Dreamer1]

At present state, I can't view a WP parliament except maybe Pritam Singh. Low already qualified that WP isn't at the take over stage yet

Brother SC,LTK does not reach today state if he does what everyone thinks he is doing,remember he was a non-speaking China man 30 years ago,can any one imagine LTK of today?

 

[scroobal]

There is no way that WP or any other party can unseat the PAP as a govt in 2016 or the next 2 GE. The threshold is not close to even consider it. Singaporeans will not allow it. The only ones in the next 15 years that can remove this govt are within the PAP as result of a factional split.

Even WP would not contemplate such a scenario.

The next leg for WP is to mature as an opposition party and begin to be perceived as an alternative. If Singaporeans do not see progress in this respect, the demand for a 3rd strong party becomes strong and potential good quality opposition candidates would look elsewhere and gravitate to a the 3rd strong party.

 

[Dreamer1]

U all suar killing PAP is possible in 2015/6?
Will be lucky to get additional 5/6 muar seats in next GE

Brother FT,I do not agree with you but will fight to my 200% capacity for what you forecast,disgree!Thank you.

 

[steffychun]

Brother SC,LTK does not reach today state if he does what everyone thinks he is doing,remember he was a non-speaking China man 30 years ago,can any one imagine LTK of today?

That's not the matter. The matter now is to keep up to date and show a credible post PAP political party

 

[Dreamer1]

That's not the matter. The matter now is to keep up to date and show a credible post PAP political party

Brother SC,For that LTK must shows his secret weapon,I am not a WP member,but I believe he must have, looking at his last public smile in Ponggol.

 

[steffychun]

Brother SC,For that LTK must shows his secret weapon,I am not a WP member,but I believe he must have, looking at his last public smile in Ponggol.

Secret ok, but moves must be shone. I

 

[ray_of_hope]

The next leg for WP is to mature as an opposition party and begin to be perceived as an alternative. If Singaporeans do not see progress in this respect, the demand for a 3rd strong party becomes strong and potential good quality opposition candidates would look elsewhere and gravitate to a the 3rd strong party.

So far there is none, and there is no indication of one emerging.

 

[glockman]

Are the Fox and Vixen up to it? My guess is that they will be. But it require a paradigm shift in local politics or even in a conventional Westminster sense. What form would that shift be?

Well she did say the WP will evolve their politics to meet the expectation of the public. And that is 1/3 of parliament right now. And hopefully by 2025, at least 2/3 or more.

 

[cunnilaubu]

In 2011, they spectacularly took out 2 cabinet ministers, one senior Minister of State and a named potential minister and captured the single political obstacle - a GRC. In the process, they placed 3 Chinese, 1 Malay and 1 Indian (Sikh), a multi-racial opposition presence in parliament for the first time since Independence.

You forgot that it was also across gender with the 1st oppo woman MP into parliament. This team has everything.

The next leg would be most important, from being a co-driver to be being the new potential driver. It is no longer about helping the current driver.

Are the Fox and Vixen up to it? My guess is that they will be. But it require a paradigm shift in local politics or even in a conventional Westminster sense. What form would that shift be?

My feeling is that people are losing faith with the PAP and are frastrated because there is no viable alternative. This sentiment will grow and if WP is not able to step up and offer to be that alternative, singkies may lose faith in them.

I hope they will denied PAP the 2/3 majority in 2016 and prepare for being the driver in 2021.

If they have no confident of doing that, then they will have to seriously re-consider whether to work with the other oppo parties with a view of forming an oppo alliance similar to that in MY so as to give people some hope. There are capable people amongst the other parties.

Marshall started it in 57. JBJ took over in 72, followed by Low on 01. Until 2011' over 44 years, they had a total of 23 fallow years. In between, 3 of them secured seats in Parliament. Marshall, 61, JBJ in 81 and 84 and Low in 91' 97, 01, 06.

Is there any significant with the year ending with "1". 2021 perhaps?

 

[tanwahp]

The next leg for WP is to mature as an opposition party and begin to be perceived as an alternative. If Singaporeans do not see progress in this respect, the demand for a 3rd strong party becomes strong and potential good quality opposition candidates would look elsewhere and gravitate to a the 3rd strong party.

The way Singaporeans perceive WP cannot be uniform, but no matter how it is perceived, Singaporeans must have a level of faith in WP for it to have gone this far.

If WP is not perceived as an alternative yet got this far, then being perceived as an alternative cannot be the reason.

The bigger challenge for WP is not to fall into open squabbles, open splits, mass exodus like the RP or SPP kinds.

 

[aurvandil]

There is no such thing as Law of Diminishing Returns in politics. Most empirical studies show that it is more of a step function with sudden violent paradigm shifts.

The paradigm shift which has occurred in Singapore is NOT that Singapore needs a co-driver.

Rather the shift is that that PAP is no longer the best party for Singapore.

With this paradigm shift, the clock is ticking for the PAP Hidden Dragons. 2016 will be the last chance for them to emerge and establish themselves.

There is no way that WP or any other party can unseat the PAP as a govt in 2016 or the next 2 GE. The threshold is not close to even consider it. Singaporeans will not allow it. The only ones in the next 15 years that can remove this govt are within the PAP as result of a factional split.

 

[kingrant]

For a long time, nobody believed that the PAP can even start to become inept or turn rogue. The people's support is eroding because of its elitist credos, the belief that only they have the monopoly of ideas, they stopped listening and connecting, or when they tried to, are incapable of being sincere anymore. That they should justifiably be rewarded with millions is another sticky sore point which they refused to back down from, notwithstanding a wayang Review in Parliament.

I therefore believe that the paradigm shift will happen when the PAP, in a last ditch effort to save itself, splits into two factions. Of necessity, the winning faction will be the one who can shed that elitist image, restore that social compact and connect, build up trust that it is pro-Singapore and not self-serving, is more in touch with the ground, and take pains to walk the ground and explain new controversial policies painstakingly and persuade the people to believe in them and to support its policies. This is because the people still wants them to be in govt but as they are not listening enough or seem out of touch, the people will continue to withdraw its support at the ballot box at every turn.

With such a new PAP, the WP will find a tough competitor in electoral performance. Still, there will be a perceived need for the WP as an alternative, until the new PAP shows it is consistent and permanent in its habits and conduct. By then, hopefully be a long time for WP to consolidate and perfect itself.

 

[myfoot123]

The next leg would be most important, from being a co-driver to be being the new potential driver. It is no longer about helping the current driver.

Are the Fox and Vixen up to it? My guess is that they will be. But it require a paradigm shift in local politics or even in a conventional Westminster sense. What form would that shift be?

WP will not take the risk of confrontational politics for fear of losing support. It needs a genie pig to test it out and give them the courage to adopt a more aggressive stunt. The best genie pig is SDP. If SDP can show WP how to do it and gain momentum into parliament, WP's co-driver style will change to overtake SDP in a more driven manner.

Currently, it is undecided whether WP will co-opt with PAP or SDP. They need to wait and see who is more competent and have more compassion to run this country. They may also co-opt with NSP or SPP. Too premature to think WP will certainly support PAP and than lose support from the electorate who hate to see PAP still loitering in their backyard.

Mutli-party state will path the way for WP to look at different perspective if they intent to form a govt. If WP didn't intent to form a govt, than it is not likely WP will want to contest every electorate and thus other opposition parties have chance without a multicorner fight. If WP intent to contest almost every corner of Singapore, it shows LTK ambition is high and is ready to form a govt because if they win in every electorate, WP has no choice but to become a new govt by law.

 

[ray_of_hope]

There is no such thing as Law of Diminishing Returns in politics. Most empirical studies show that it is more of a step function with sudden violent paradigm shifts.

The paradigm shift which has occurred in Singapore is NOT that Singapore needs a co-driver.

Rather the shift is that that PAP is no longer the best party for Singapore.

With this paradigm shift, the clock is ticking for the PAP Hidden Dragons. 2016 will be the last chance for them to emerge and establish themselves.

It is no point referring to "studies" (like I even believe you read any). The fact is that radical changes do not occur in Singapore. That is a constant. There is no evidence that this will be modified any time soon.

 

[aurvandil]

I really hope all in the PAP think like this.

It is no point referring to "studies" (like I even believe you read any). The fact is that radical changes do not occur in Singapore. That is a constant. There is no evidence that this will be modified any time soon.