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Parents up in arms again over PSLE Mathematics paper

Channel NewsAsia - Saturday, October 10

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[Parents up in arms again over PSLE Mathematics paper] Parents up in arms again over PSLE Mathematics paper

SINGAPORE: The first thing her son did when he came out from the Primary School Leaving Examination (PSLE) maths paper on Thursday this week was to gesture as if he was "slitting his throat".

"One look at his face and I thought ’oh no’. I could see that he felt he was condemned," said Mrs Karen Sng. "When he was telling me about how he couldn’t answer some of the questions, he got very emotional and started crying. He said his hopes of getting (an) A* are dashed."

Not for the first time, parents are up in arms over the PSLE Mathematics paper, which some have described as "unbelievably tough" this year. As recently as two years ago, the PSLE Mathematics paper had also caused a similar uproar.

The reason for Thursday’s tough paper, opined the seven parents whom MediaCorp spoke to, was because Primary 6 students were allowed to use calculators while solving Paper 2 for the first time. Paper 2 makes up 60 per cent of the entire paper and consists of 18 questions.

Said Mrs Vivian Weng: "I think the setters feel it’ll be faster for them to compute with a calculator. So the problems they set are much more complex; there are more values, more steps. But it’s unfair because this is the first time they can do so and they do not know what to expect!"

These parents’ children are studying in both neighbourhood and "top" schools.

In response to MediaCorp’s queries, the Education Ministry said this year’s paper was "comparable" to those of previous years. "There is no change in syllabus, question types or number of questions," a spokesperson said.

"The introduction of the use of calculators does not have any bearing on the difficulty of paper. The use of calculators has been introduced into the primary maths curriculum so as to enhance the teaching and learning of maths by expanding the repertoire of learning activities, to achieve a better balance between the time and effort spent developing problem solving skills and computation skills. Calculators can also help to reduce computational errors."

But the parents MediaCorp spoke to said students were apparently so stumped that many — even top students who have regularly aced past school examinations — broke down in tears in right after the paper.

Private maths tutor Josephine Tan whose son studies at Anglo—Chinese School (Junior), said he told her that "many A* students in the top class... couldn’t finish all the questions".

According to posts on an online forum for parents, one example of the problem sums given was: "Jim bought some chocolates and gave half of it to Ken. Ken bought some sweets and gave half of it to Jim. Jim ate 12 sweets and Ken ate 18 chocolates. The ratio of Jim’s sweets to chocolates became 1:7 and the ratio of Ken’s sweets to chocolates became 1:4. How many sweets did Ken buy?"

Mrs Tan said: "They have spent months revising and preparing, but it’s so much tougher than they expected. It really put a big dent on students’ morale."

Another common gripe: There was not enough time for them to complete the paper.

A private tutor, who declined to be named, told MediaCorp she concurred with parents’ opinions. "This year’s paper demanded more from students. It required them to read and understand more complex questions, and go through more steps, so time constraints would have been a concern," the 28—year—old said.

However, the parents’ fear of poor grades for their children may be unfounded since they will be compared against the entire cohort’s performance.

And the answer to the question? 68.
 
wtf! ...

do away wif psle! ... do away wif exams! ...

y make life so stressful 4 young kids? ... dey shud b enjoying their childhood! ...
 
I'm reminded of the number 1 reason people give for emigrating, for their children. :)

Just imagine the number of years wasted with PSLE, O levels, A levels, NS,.. Then after all that you're expect to compete with foreigners on an unequal playing field :rolleyes:
 
I constantly read from ST that our educational system is one of the best, our maths text books are even used by the American schools, overseas scholars wants to study here etc. but fuck! after all these years what have we produced - nothing but Kiasu and Kiasi citizens, no scientist, no inventor, no world class writer, no nobel prize winner, chee bai not even a footballer who can play in Europe.
 
What the fuck kind of question is that? Even I have trouble answering this question. MOE got nothing better to do than invent this mind twisters that have nothing to do with real math. Even MENSA questions are not that tough.
 
Parents up in arms again over PSLE Mathematics paper

Channel NewsAsia - Saturday, October 10

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[Parents up in arms again over PSLE Mathematics paper] Parents up in arms again over PSLE Mathematics paper



According to posts on an online forum for parents, one example of the problem sums given was: "Jim bought some chocolates and gave half of it to Ken. Ken bought some sweets and gave half of it to Jim. Jim ate 12 sweets and Ken ate 18 chocolates. The ratio of Jim’s sweets to chocolates became 1:7 and the ratio of Ken’s sweets to chocolates became 1:4. How many sweets did Ken buy?"

And the answer to the question? 68.[/B]

What the fuck, these kind of questions for PSLE???

First, the language abilities of the Primary 6 kid must be on a GOOD LEVEL... as this is already a test of LANGUAGE ABILITIES not mathematical abilities.

They could have just put down the equations, and variables, and ask the students to solve, which is truly a test of mathematical computational abilities, but NOT language abilities.

I think the MOE have some genius scholars inside fucking up the syllabus...
So from my point of view, the ace maths in PSLE in SGP now adays must ensure that the child is proficient not only in Maths, but in English language as well...

Why are we giving stress to the child?
 
What the fuck kind of question is that? Even I have trouble answering this question. ....

We really only need enough maths to count our pay, gst deductions,.. Don't even need to count up to a million unless you plan to become an MP.

Look at the FT, do they even have PSLE :confused: I don't even think employers bother to check their qualifications.

Why is there a double standard? Why pick on locals :rolleyes:
 
What is this obsession with A*? Not everyone can and should get A*. This cultural behaviour that all students should get A* is very very unhealthy. I applaud the MOE for setting such tough papers. From a statistic point of view, only the top 10% should get a A* for a normally distributed curve. Tough question like these are the ones that distinguishes that. If you don't get one, and you pass it should mean you are in the majority. What is important for students that don't complete or get every question in the paper is to learn what the answer is. Not sob and KpKb about not getting the grades. In sinkieland, learning doesn't seem to be a priority. Learning from your failure and mistake is even worst. Like the saying goes. "_ 失败那成功之母“ PSLE student should learn to fail and succeed at a young age.


SINGAPORE: The first thing her son did when he came out from the Primary School Leaving Examination (PSLE) maths paper on Thursday this week was to gesture as if he was "slitting his throat".

"One look at his face and I thought ’oh no’. I could see that he felt he was condemned," said Mrs Karen Sng. "When he was telling me about how he couldn’t answer some of the questions, he got very emotional and started crying. He said his hopes of getting (an) A* are dashed."

These parents’ children are studying in both neighbourhood and "top" schools.

"The introduction of the use of calculators does not have any bearing on the difficulty of paper. The use of calculators has been introduced into the primary maths curriculum so as to enhance the teaching and learning of maths by expanding the repertoire of learning activities, to achieve a better balance between the time and effort spent developing problem solving skills and computation skills. Calculators can also help to reduce computational errors."

But the parents MediaCorp spoke to said students were apparently so stumped that many — even top students who have regularly aced past school examinations — broke down in tears in right after the paper.

Private maths tutor Josephine Tan whose son studies at Anglo—Chinese School (Junior), said he told her that "many A* students in the top class... couldn’t finish all the questions".


Mrs Tan said: "They have spent months revising and preparing, but it’s so much tougher than they expected. It really put a big dent on students’ morale."

Another common gripe: There was not enough time for them to complete the paper.

A private tutor, who declined to be named, told MediaCorp she concurred with parents’ opinions. "This year’s paper demanded more from students. It required them to read and understand more complex questions, and go through more steps, so time constraints would have been a concern," the 28—year—old said.

However, the parents’ fear of poor grades for their children may be unfounded since they will be compared against the entire cohort’s performance.
 
Parents up in arms again over PSLE Mathematics paper

Channel NewsAsia - Saturday, October 10

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[Parents up in arms again over PSLE Mathematics paper] Parents up in arms again over PSLE Mathematics paper

SINGAPORE: The first thing her son did when he came out from the Primary School Leaving Examination (PSLE) maths paper on Thursday this week was to gesture as if he was "slitting his throat".

"One look at his face and I thought ’oh no’. I could see that he felt he was condemned," said Mrs Karen Sng. "When he was telling me about how he couldn’t answer some of the questions, he got very emotional and started crying. He said his hopes of getting (an) A* are dashed."

Not for the first time, parents are up in arms over the PSLE Mathematics paper, which some have described as "unbelievably tough" this year. As recently as two years ago, the PSLE Mathematics paper had also caused a similar uproar.

The reason for Thursday’s tough paper, opined the seven parents whom MediaCorp spoke to, was because Primary 6 students were allowed to use calculators while solving Paper 2 for the first time. Paper 2 makes up 60 per cent of the entire paper and consists of 18 questions.

Said Mrs Vivian Weng: "I think the setters feel it’ll be faster for them to compute with a calculator. So the problems they set are much more complex; there are more values, more steps. But it’s unfair because this is the first time they can do so and they do not know what to expect!"

These parents’ children are studying in both neighbourhood and "top" schools.

In response to MediaCorp’s queries, the Education Ministry said this year’s paper was "comparable" to those of previous years. "There is no change in syllabus, question types or number of questions," a spokesperson said.

"The introduction of the use of calculators does not have any bearing on the difficulty of paper. The use of calculators has been introduced into the primary maths curriculum so as to enhance the teaching and learning of maths by expanding the repertoire of learning activities, to achieve a better balance between the time and effort spent developing problem solving skills and computation skills. Calculators can also help to reduce computational errors."

But the parents MediaCorp spoke to said students were apparently so stumped that many — even top students who have regularly aced past school examinations — broke down in tears in right after the paper.

Private maths tutor Josephine Tan whose son studies at Anglo—Chinese School (Junior), said he told her that "many A* students in the top class... couldn’t finish all the questions".

According to posts on an online forum for parents, one example of the problem sums given was: "Jim bought some chocolates and gave half of it to Ken. Ken bought some sweets and gave half of it to Jim. Jim ate 12 sweets and Ken ate 18 chocolates. The ratio of Jim’s sweets to chocolates became 1:7 and the ratio of Ken’s sweets to chocolates became 1:4. How many sweets did Ken buy?"

Mrs Tan said: "They have spent months revising and preparing, but it’s so much tougher than they expected. It really put a big dent on students’ morale."

Another common gripe: There was not enough time for them to complete the paper.

A private tutor, who declined to be named, told MediaCorp she concurred with parents’ opinions. "This year’s paper demanded more from students. It required them to read and understand more complex questions, and go through more steps, so time constraints would have been a concern," the 28—year—old said.

However, the parents’ fear of poor grades for their children may be unfounded since they will be compared against the entire cohort’s performance.

And the answer to the question? 68.

Loser's argument

Instead of finding a solution, they complain that the problem is too difficult to solve.

No wonder PAP stays in power.
 
You spolit your own life and those people hiring you !

Your hard work does not translate to employers giving you higher salaries .
Just more work for you because you are kiasu,kiasu and kiasi, kiasi .
You graduate from their same program of more for less .
As long you support their way of life and their system, you are forever trapped .
 
I cannot understand why MOE wanted to make life so difficult for the kids.

Such a stupid question over such a small situation.

Teach the kids to be street smart in real life la.....just ask Ken and Jim how many sweets and chcolates they bought la instead of calculation. What so difficult to ask if want to know, and can improve friendship too by talking. Can also ask them whether nice or not too;) then decide if want to buy or not.
 
Calculators is not really a big deal, unless they are testing the student addition, multiplication, division and subtraction skills :p
 
I cannot understand why MOE wanted to make life so difficult for the kids.


Our schools like all other gov't agencies are making life difficult for all Sporeans.

Even if the PAP is replaced, the damage has already been done. The people unfriendly attitude is now pervasive among the civil servants, GLCs,....:rolleyes:
 
I cannot understand why MOE wanted to make life so difficult for the kids.

Such a stupid question over such a small situation.

Teach the kids to be street smart in real life la.....just ask Ken and Jim how many sweets and chcolates they bought la instead of calculation. What so difficult to ask if want to know, and can improve friendship too by talking. Can also ask them whether nice or not too;) then decide if want to buy or not.

You mean to teach them lessons such as if you mata don commit crime?
 
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