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Workers' Party proposals are not new: Ng Eng Hen

By Toh Yong Chuan, Royston Sim and Stacey Chia
The Straits Times
Wednesday, Feb 27, 2013

SINGAPORE - Two Cabinet ministers responded to the Workers' Party's (WP) population paper on Sunday, saying that the proposals it contained were not new and that while others might write papers, it was the Government that must safeguard Singaporeans' livelihoods.

Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen said that the Government remains open to "good ideas from anywhere" to solve the nation's population problems.

As for the proposals in the WP paper, he said "I don't think they were new" as they were raised during the Parliament debate on the Population White Paper and arguments went "back and forth".

The WP advocates raising the resident labour force participation rate and freezing foreign worker numbers at the current level.

But population policies involve trade-offs, Dr Ng said. "If you slow down foreign workers, SMEs go bust and Singaporeans lose their jobs, they are not trivial problems. They are real problems."

He also noted that Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong had in his speech during the Parliament debate, spelt out what the Government would do to meet challenges in three areas:

Marriage and parenthood;

Infrastructure;

Strengthening the Singaporean core.

There has already been "a lot of debate", Dr Ng said, so the focus should now be on "producing results".

He was speaking to reporters on the sidelines of a fund-raising event at Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC where he is a Member of Parliament.

Over at Bukit Timah, Environment and Water Resources Minister Vivian Balakrishnan said after visiting a hawker centre that "anyone can write a paper" or "make a speech in Parliament", but the difference is that the Government has the responsibility to turn plans into action.

"We cannot afford to take risks with the livelihood and the quality of lives of Singaporeans," he said. Without naming the WP, Dr Balakrishnan added: "We need to ensure that our plans are realistic, do not crash the economy and do not in the name of trying to score political points, make life more difficult or deprive our children of the opportunities that they need."

Dr Ng and Dr Balakrishnan's comments on Sunday came a day after Minister in the Prime Minister's Office Grace Fu said that the Government was studying the WP's population paper.
 
Actually, the thread title is exactly their mentality over the years which has been passed down by you-know-who and inherited by you-know-what.
 
the Government remains open to "good ideas from anywhere" to solve the nation's population problems. As for the proposals in the WP paper, he said "I don't think they were new" as they were raised during the Parliament debate on the Population White Paper and arguments went "back and forth".

The good ideas are only those the government has come up with. The arrogance of the PAP doesn't stop. The PAP keeps harping on the same points but does not address the problems they have created. We are still dealing with the problems created by the influx of 2.3 million foreigners and they want to increase the foreign population to 3.9 million. SMRT CEO said recently that it would take him five years to fix the current sets of problem. By extension, new problems will take him another 5 years to fix?
Sinkees need to show the PAP who is the boss in 2016.

"If you slow down foreign workers, SMEs go bust and Singaporeans lose their jobs, they are not trivial problems. They are real problems."
They don't get it. We have been on this path for 20 years and look where we are now. The SMEs remain as that and we still don't have any world-class home-grown companies. Why? Because of this foolish path of importing millions of low-cost foreign labour.
Sinkees are already losing jobs. The middle income jobs - PMET - are now going to foreigners. Where are the middle income jobs for sinkees? That's the real problem which the PAP choose to ignore. And there are the social problems. We didn't end up in a situation with shortage of HDB flats out of nowhere. Trace it back to the deluge of foreigners!

There has already been "a lot of debate", Dr Ng said, so the focus should now be on "producing results".
Yeah, doing the same old thing again. Don't they learn? 2.3 million foreigners got us into this mess (the results were bad) ...how will 3.9 million foreigners solve it? Think of the 2.3 million influx as a pilot project ...the pilot project failed. Ignore the outcome, pretend to acknowledge issues, let's move on and repeat the same exercise again, this time on a larger scale. Are sinkees stupid not to see the futility of this PAP sell-out?

Vivian Balakrishnan said after visiting a hawker centre that "anyone can write a paper" or "make a speech in Parliament", but the difference is that the Government has the responsibility to turn plans into action.
They wanted ideas, they dismissed it outright. What has the government achieved? 1 percent growth last year! 2.3 million foreigners that gave us higher inflation for years, insufficient HDB flats, foreigners contemptuous of sinkees, ....Great results, Vivian! He is a disgrace to ACS.

"We cannot afford to take risks with the livelihood and the quality of lives of Singaporeans,"
Selective amnesia. PAP has taken risks on us ...and the experiment failed. They don't want to see it as such ...pushes on for the same experiment.
 
Actually, the thread title is exactly their mentality over the years which has been passed down by you-know-who and inherited by you-know-what.

What's with the know-who-know-what crap? Expect everybody to read your mind?
 
What's with the know-who-know-what crap? Expect everybody to read your mind?

Newbie moderator give you face ok?
you-know-what = PAWS.
you-know-who if you don't know can look through my 17,000+ posts.
 
Newbie moderator give you face ok?
you-know-what = PAWS.
you-know-who if you don't know can look through my 17,000+ posts.

I don't need face. Just try to post in a way that those new to the forum understand what you are talking about. Anything wrong?

i gotta this feeling if one day u lose your mod status, a lot of dogs will come after your ass....sigh....

They are free to come after my ass anytime, but my pants stay on!
 
pappys dont listen, they believe the average sporean is stupid and doesnt know shit .

you dont believe me, pls go talk to a pappy grassweed or some other xiao pappy weirdo, this is their mantra and they all believe it.
 
What's with the know-who-know-what crap? Expect everybody to read your mind?

This is exactly why I told you, German citizen, to not try to meddle in SG affairs.
Since you don't know, and you think you have to right to "have a say", and yet you show all that you know nothing.

Give up your German citizenship, take up SG citizenship.. then.. also make some SG friends who will hopefully fill you in on the details.

Until then, leave SG affairs to us SG citizens. Butt out and mind your own country's affairs, German citizen.
 
This is exactly why I told you, German citizen, to not try to meddle in SG affairs.
Since you don't know, and you think you have to right to "have a say", and yet you show all that you know nothing.

Give up your German citizenship, take up SG citizenship.. then.. also make some SG friends who will hopefully fill you in on the details.

Until then, leave SG affairs to us SG citizens. Butt out and mind your own country's affairs, German citizen.

You know, just because you keep repeating your story at every opportunity, does not mean i will listen to you.
 
Until then, leave SG affairs to us SG citizens. Butt out and mind your own country's affairs, German citizen.

There is no citizenship or national boundaries in this forum. Every member is a citizen of Sammyboyland and everyone is on an equal footing regardless of the colour of their real life passports.
 
You know, just because you keep repeating your story at every opportunity, does not mean i will listen to you.

I can't make you listen to me, for I have not SAID anything!
You can decide to read what I post, or not read. Respond or not respond.
You can also follow my suggestion or take my advice, but you can't listen.. for no word was spoken by me.
 
There is no citizenship or national boundaries in this forum. Every member is a citizen of Sammyboyland and everyone is on an equal footing regardless of the colour of their real life passports.

Dear Sam

I am not restricting this German citizen from posting anything.. in fact, I don't have the right to do anything of that sort.
But I feel very strongly when he believes that he has a RIGHT to have a say in SG's affairs.

He can post about SG affairs, and make comments, but to say that he has a right to have a say in SG's affairs.. that I can never agree with for his is not a SG citizen.

And that is why, when I see his comments on SG's affairs.. there is this burning fire in my guts to want to post to challenge him to give up his German citizenship.

Does this forum restrict me from saying my piece, and giving him suggestions and advice.. or even posting to him to make a point?

I am not against any race, religion, gender or age.. but when someone who is not even a SG citizen wants to have a say in my country's affairs.. I want to post and put in words what I think this person should do.

I have posted my piece, it is up to you to do what you deem fit, as you OWN this forum.
 
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