PAP Politicians are Different

[TracyTan866]

Why are PAP politicians so different from other countries politicians? They:

1. Are very money minded and materialistic
2. Are greedy
3. Want to be respected
4. Are thin skin, cant stand criticisms
5. Get easily offended
6. Are gangster like, carry hatchet and meet at cul de sacs
7. Call their voters insulting names
8. Work for PKIs instead of to improve their citizens lives
9. Like to sue their opponents
10. Have ugly spouses
11. Have strange taste
12. Have an unrealistic high opinion of themselves
13. Lack accountablity
14. Have no sense of responsibility
15. Good at side stepping valid but difficult questions
16. Cant command respect
17. Hated by their citizens
18. Dont speak the whole truth
19. Control State Institutions
20. Lack political acumen
21. Favour foreigners to their own citizens
22. Dont care whether thier policies cause great sufferings
23. etc

No wonder they cant connect with average Singaporeans. The divide is getting wider

 

[neddy]

Lucky you do not hear what they have to say about you behind your back.

There is really no divide. It is just 2 different classes of people here. Asians are used to having rulers who do not connect with peasants.

PAP politicians are average, so are the rest of the Singaporeans.
The only difference is that Singaporeans perception of PAP.

It is all in a mind game

 

[TracyTan866]

Lucky you do not hear what they have to say about you behind your back.

There is really no divide. It is just 2 different classes of people here. Asians are used to having rulers who do not connect with peasants.

PAP politicians are average, so are the rest of the Singaporeans.
The only difference is that Singaporeans perception of PAP.

It is all in a mind game

Yes, i m quite sure the pap thinks that Singaporeans are ungrateful to them

 

[red amoeba]

1. Are very money minded and materialistic >> PRC governors, city mayors as well.
2. Are greedy >> ditto the above.
3. Want to be respected >> which politician dun want to be respected? Name one pls.
4. Are thin skin, cant stand criticisms - yes but thats human nature no? One tend to be defensive.
5. Get easily offended - see above.
6. Are gangster like, carry hatchet and meet at cul de sacs >> see PRC politicians.
7. Call their voters insulting names >> Taiwanese politicians too...
8. Work for PKIs instead of to improve their citizens lives >> I can think of Indian / Taiwanese / PRC politicians. Marcos too.
9. Like to sue their opponents >> I agree with you this one.
10. Have ugly spouses >> come on, there are many fine examples out there. Imelda is one.
11. Have strange taste >> Gaadafi?
12. Have an unrealistic high opinion of themselves >> Kim Jung Il, Gaadafei
13. Lack accountablity >> don't they all.
14. Have no sense of responsibility >> not entirely true. At least Lui care to appear in train stations - wayang or not we dun noe.
15. Good at side stepping valid but difficult questions >> hey, thats politics ok.
16. Cant command respect >> actually no politician in the world can command respect.
17. Hated by their citizens >> as long as you r not supporter.
18. Dont speak the whole truth >> see my reply to point 15
19. Control State Institutions >> PRC / Taiwan
20. Lack political acumen >> ok, some don't - think TPL.
21. Favour foreigners to their own citizens >> this I agree...
22. Dont care whether thier policies cause great sufferings >> they do care, i mean, they have to...cos it will cost them votes.
23. etc

 

[TracyTan866]

1. Are very money minded and materialistic >> PRC governors, city mayors as well.
2. Are greedy >> ditto the above.
3. Want to be respected >> which politician dun want to be respected? Name one pls.
4. Are thin skin, cant stand criticisms - yes but thats human nature no? One tend to be defensive.
5. Get easily offended - see above.
6. Are gangster like, carry hatchet and meet at cul de sacs >> see PRC politicians.
7. Call their voters insulting names >> Taiwanese politicians too...
8. Work for PKIs instead of to improve their citizens lives >> I can think of Indian / Taiwanese / PRC politicians. Marcos too.
9. Like to sue their opponents >> I agree with you this one.
10. Have ugly spouses >> come on, there are many fine examples out there. Imelda is one.
11. Have strange taste >> Gaadafi?
12. Have an unrealistic high opinion of themselves >> Kim Jung Il, Gaadafei
13. Lack accountablity >> don't they all.
14. Have no sense of responsibility >> not entirely true. At least Lui care to appear in train stations - wayang or not we dun noe.
15. Good at side stepping valid but difficult questions >> hey, thats politics ok.
16. Cant command respect >> actually no politician in the world can command respect.
17. Hated by their citizens >> as long as you r not supporter.
18. Dont speak the whole truth >> see my reply to point 15
19. Control State Institutions >> PRC / Taiwan
20. Lack political acumen >> ok, some don't - think TPL.
21. Favour foreigners to their own citizens >> this I agree...
22. Dont care whether thier policies cause great sufferings >> they do care, i mean, they have to...cos it will cost them votes.
23. etc

Want to be respected is different from commanding respect.

The first generation pap was well respected

 

[freedalas]

Lucky you do not hear what they have to say about you behind your back.

There is really no divide. It is just 2 different classes of people here. Asians are used to having rulers who do not connect with peasants.

PAP politicians are average, so are the rest of the Singaporeans.
The only difference is that Singaporeans perception of PAP.

It is all in a mind game

You're contradicting yourself. You said there is really no divide. And yet in the same breath you said there are 2 different classes of people. Isn't the fact that there are 2 classes means there is a divide. And you go on to say that in Asia, the rulers do not connect with peasants. Again, doesn't that implies there is a divide. And worse still, u go on to say that PAP politicians are average and so are the rest of the Singaporeans. If everyone in S'pore is average then who is above and below average? It's plain common sense that in any population, there must be those who are above average, average and below average, so how can what u purport make any sense?

The only point I agree with u is it's a mind game. Yes, it's your mind that's playing games with u else u won't be posting such nonsense here.

 

[TracyTan866]

You're contradicting yourself. You said there is really no divide. And yet in the same breath you said there are 2 different classes of people. Isn't the fact that there are 2 classes means there is a divide. And you go on to say that in Asia, the rulers do not connect with peasants. Again, doesn't that implies there is a divide. And worse still, u go on to say that PAP politicians are average and so are the rest of the Singaporeans. If everyone in S'pore is average then who is above and below average? It's plain common sense that in any population, there must be those who are above average, average and below average, so how can what u purport make any sense?

The only point I agree with u is it's a mind game. Yes, it's your mind that's playing games with u else u won't be posting such nonsense here.

Very good points you raised.

In fact the mind games the pap is playing is very dangerous. It controls the free flow of information and tries to mould the people's thinking. In school, the pap comes out with National education which is nothing except their propaganda.

The pap politicians are unlike other politicians..they are subtly ruthless but nontheless out to destroy their opponents by hook or by crook

 

[Ash007]

There is really no challenge to their rule for a very long time. This is what is causing this. Its not a democracy, its an authoritarian dictatorship. For such an entrenched system to change you either need a long period of gradual changes, 50-100 years perhaps, or a revolution/rebellion.

 

[TracyTan866]

There is really no challenge to their rule for a very long time. This is what is causing this. Its not a democracy, its an authoritarian dictatorship. For such an entrenched system to change you either need a long period of gradual changes, 50-100 years perhaps, or a revolution/rebellion.

True..but the no challenge was pap's strongarm tactics used against legitimate opponents in the 1960s and thereafter...my point abt being subtly ruthless in Post #7. The pap's dirty tactics are very different from what other countries' polticians would do

 

[HedgeTrader]

Big difference is PAP England very powder.

Anyhow catch people is detention without trial.
Anyhow threaten people is cul de sac.
Anyhow beat up people is self defence.
Anyhow change law is legislation.
Anyhow change election is constitution.
Increase own salary is prevent corruption.
Decrease other salary is economy competition.
Own people say sorry is out of context.
Other people say sorry also must explain.
Sack own people is resign pursue other interest.
Other people jump HDB, MRT, reservoir is unnatural death.
Flooding is ponding...
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Anymore to add LOL

 

[TracyTan866]

Big difference is PAP England very powder.

Anyhow catch people is detention without trial.
Anyhow threaten people is cul de sac.
Anyhow beat up people is self defence.
Anyhow change law is legislation.
Increase own salary is prevent corruption.
Decrease other salary is economy competition.
Own people say sorry is out of context.
Other people say sorry also must explain.
Sack own people is resign pursue other interest.
Other people jump HDB, MRT, reservoir is unnatural death.
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.
.
Anymore to add LOL

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Two people committed same offence but the pap allows the AG to vary the evidence and sentence one to a heavier penalty (Ravinthran/Arujuman's case)

 

[TracyTan866]

Why are PAP politicians so different from other countries politicians? They:

1. Are very money minded and materialistic
2. Are greedy
3. Want to be respected
4. Are thin skin, cant stand criticisms
5. Get easily offended
6. Are gangster like, carry hatchet and meet at cul de sacs
7. Call their voters insulting names
8. Work for PKIs instead of to improve their citizens lives
9. Like to sue their opponents
10. Have ugly spouses
11. Have strange taste
12. Have an unrealistic high opinion of themselves
13. Lack accountablity
14. Have no sense of responsibility
15. Good at side stepping valid but difficult questions
16. Cant command respect
17. Hated by their citizens
18. Dont speak the whole truth
19. Control State Institutions
20. Lack political acumen
21. Favour foreigners to their own citizens
22. Dont care whether thier policies cause great sufferings
23. etc

No wonder they cant connect with average Singaporeans. The divide is getting wider

Other countries' politicians:

1. are afraid of their voters
2. are accountable for their actions
3. say sorry when they do wrong

These are good values of a politician.

Singaporeans must make the pap politicians be likewise and be good politicians

 

[TracyTan866]

Other countries' politicians:

1. are afraid of their voters
2. are accountable for their actions
3. say sorry when they do wrong

These are good values of a politician.

Singaporeans must make the pap politicians be likewise and be good politicians

Good to hear:

1. GKY saying sorry for the DNA fiasco
2. VB telling the PUB off for trying to hookwink Singaporeans by calling "flooding" as "ponding"
3. SMRT saying sorry
4. DBS saying sorry

These are steps in the right direction!!!

 

[neddy]

Yes, i m quite sure the pap thinks that Singaporeans are ungrateful to them

They are just humans.

Very hard to step into someone else's shoes.

I remembered my very rich relative complains about her 2 maids wanting to take one day off every month. Different classes of people, different standards.

UK politicians envy Singapore politicians. They can only dream about the high pay and the easy job!

 

[TracyTan866]

They are just humans.

Very hard to step into someone else's shoes.

I remembered my very rich relative complains about her 2 maids wanting to take one day off every month. Different classes of people, different standards.

Of course they are humans. But why must they be different from other politicans? Why must they be arrogant?? Why must they sue their political opponents? why must they demand obscene salaries? why do they call their own citizens derogatory names? Why do they find it so difficult to say sorry when they have failed in their jobs? why cant they command respect?

Why cant the pap politicians be like other politicians and gain the respect of Singaporeans?

 

[TracyTan866]

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UK politicians envy Singapore politicians.

where did u get this information from? fact or fiction?

 

[TracyTan866]

I remembered my very rich relative complains about her 2 maids wanting to take one day off every month. Different classes of people, different standards.

your above example has any relevance to the topic?

 

[po2wq]

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11. Have strange taste
...

wat strange taste? ...

 

[freedalas]

where did u get this information from? fact or fiction?

Hi Tracy

If you read Neddy's post again, I believe he was saying UK politicians envy their PAP counterparts because of the out-of-the-world salaries coupled with an easy job. He's absolutely right as far as this point is concerned. In fact, the whole world's politicians are envious of the PAP on this count.

 

[freedalas]

Good to hear:

1. GKY saying sorry for the DNA fiasco
2. VB telling the PUB off for trying to hookwink Singaporeans by calling "flooding" as "ponding"
3. SMRT saying sorry
4. DBS saying sorry

These are steps in the right direction!!!

Agree. They're now cognizant of the people's mounting anger against them not just for the incidents themselves but more so the response to them eg calling a flood a pond and saying MRT did not made the neededannouncements because of the different races' poor command of English. Vivian did the right thing to rubbish PUB's calling it "ponding" in reply to Yaw SH and so did Lui Tuck Yew in telling Irene Ng off when she said S'poreans ought to be like Londoners in reacting to trains being down. I believe that after the results of the GE and with so many mis-steps happening so soon one after another, members of the PAP are now awakened to the fact that what the grand Old Master had claimed about S'pore having transformed from a 3rd to 1st is based on his own delusion and except for a beautiful skyline at Marina Bay, many things are falling apart and in terms of income inequality we're actually back to the 3rd world.