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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010/1220/1224285915154.html

Obama secures Senate repeal of gay military ban

Senators Joseph Lieberman (left) and Susan Collins listen to Mark Udall speak during a press conference on Capitol Hill yesterday in the wake of the repeal of the US government's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. Photograph: Brendan Smialowski/Getty ImagesSenators Joseph Lieberman (left) and Susan Collins listen to Mark Udall speak during a press conference on Capitol Hill yesterday in the wake of the repeal of the US government's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. Photograph: Brendan Smialowski/Getty Images
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LARA MARLOWE in Washington

PRESIDENT BARACK Obama fulfilled a major campaign promise when the Senate repealed the 17 year-old ban on gays serving openly in the military at the weekend.

The repeal, which could not have been foreseen even a week ago, helped to repair the damage to Obama’s standing with liberal Democrats, only 24 hours after he broke a different promise, to raise taxes on the richest Americans.

The House Democratic leadership boycotted the signing ceremony for Obama’s tax compromise Bill, which extends Bush-era tax cuts for all Americans, at the White House last Friday afternoon.

Mr Obama now looks set to score yet another victory this week, when the Senate is expected to ratify the New Start nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia.

Vice-president Joe Biden said yesterday that the administration believes it has secured the 67 votes need to ratify the treaty. The Senate Republican minority leader Mitch McConnell told CNN he would vote against the treaty because he believes the verification provisions are inadequate and he worries about “the missile defence implications of it.”

Mr Obama wrote to Senate leaders at the weekend to reassure them that a clause in the preamble of the treaty that alludes to “the interrelationship between strategic offensive arms and strategic defensive arms” would not affect US plans to deploy a missile defence system in Europe.

Mr Obama will sign the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” at the White House this week, but it will take it least two months for the new policy to take effect.

The president and top military officers must first certify to Congress that the change will not affect troop readiness, cohesion or military recruitment and retention.

Mr Obama said in a statement: “No longer will our nation be denied the service of thousands of patriotic Americans forced to leave the military, despite years of exemplary performance, because they happen to be gay. And no longer will many thousands more be asked to live a lie in order to serve the country they love.”

Supporters of the Bill who watched the vote in the Senate gallery hugged each other, did ‘high fives’ and punched fists into the air when the final tally of 65 to 31 — including eight Republicans — was announced. Others unfurled rainbow flags on the Mall.

“This is the defining civil rights initiative of the decade,” said Aubrey Sarvis, an army veteran and the director of Servicemembers Legal Defence Network. The repeal has been compared to the end of racial discrimination in the military in the 1950s and the admission of women to military academies in the 1970s.

Mr Sarvis asked defence secretary Robert Gates to suspend investigations and discharge proceedings that are already under way.

Just over a week ago, Republicans threatened to filibuster the defence spending Bill as long as the repeal was attached to it.

In a rare example of bi-partisan co-operation, senators Joe Lieberman, an Independent, and Susan Collins, a Republican, then persuaded Democratic leaders in the House to propose a stand-alone Bill repealing the 1993 legislation. The Bill passed the House on December 15th.

The Republican senator John McCain led opposition to the repeal in the Senate. “I hope that when we pass this legislation that we will understand that we are doing great damage,” Mr McCain said in what the Washington Post described as an ill-tempered “harangue”, “tempest” and “tantrum” on the Senate floor on Saturday. Gen James Amos, the Marine commandant, was the only military leader to oppose the repeal, and McCain quoted Amos copiously.

Public opinion was ahead of politicians on this issue. When the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” law was passed in 1993, only 44 per cent of Americans believed gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military. A recent ABC-Washington Post poll showed that 77 per cent now oppose discrimination against gays in the military.

The Pentagon also feared a protracted battle over legal challenges in the courts if Congress did not act to repeal the law quickly.

More than 13,000 service members have been forced to leave the military under the policy, which was enacted under the Clinton administration as a compromise with top-ranking officers who did not want gays to be allowed to serve. Many of those discharged were Arabic language specialists whose skills are badly needed in the fight against Islamist extremists.
 
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我軍沒禁令 斷袖癖非秘密
聯合 更新日期:"2010/12/20 09:15" 記者王光慈/台北報導

美國軍方改變政策,允許同性戀無條件服役;台灣對同性戀服役其實沒有明確法規,比美國相對寬鬆。國防部軍事發言人虞思祖表示,台灣兵制為徵募並行,依兵役法規定,只要符合入營條件,所有人一視同仁,沒有特別強調或凸顯性別取向問題。

台灣軍隊有同性戀,早已是公開的秘密。職業軍人多少知道同期或前後年班的學長學弟,誰的性向「和大家不一樣」;至於僅服義務役的大頭兵,入伍前都會被學長告誡,洗澡時「不要彎身揀肥皂」。

新訓中心開放式大澡堂是最危險的地方,大家裸裎相見,又是水、又是泡沫的,難免引起「有心人」遐想。肥皂如果一定要揀,最好蹲下去揀,否則彎腰後果可能不堪設想。等到下部隊,分配到有門的浴室,阿兵哥都養成「一定要鎖門」的習慣,永保安康。

隨著社會風氣越來越開放,有些同性戀在部隊裡也不怕出櫃,大方表現自己的性取向。曾在憲兵服役的范同學就說,同梯有個同性戀,言行舉止「很斯文」,雖不是很誇張,但大家都知道;這個弟兄也很大方承認,且還會分享休假時去三溫暖「尋找慰藉」的經驗。

和義務役比起來,同性戀職業軍人就比較低調隱諱,因為升遷機會僧多粥少,不希望性取向影響仕途。軍官級同性戀大多已婚,有些甚至有小孩,但私下仍有斷袖之癖,與「同性好友」交往,配偶未必知情。

日前就曾有同性戀網站上,某位現役男軍官被痛批「始亂終棄」男友,為了仕途與某女結婚。服役單位也接獲投訴,但這名軍官工作表現良好,家庭生活正常,未傳出妻子有任何不滿,因此最後未予處理。
 
To answer your homophobic question, they still serve and are allowed to. No discrimination against them. Our unit (fm Storemen to CO) knew that we had some gay men and possibly lesbians, but since they do their work, keep out of trouble and their private lives to themselves, WHO THE FUCK CARES?
 
Gays can be good soldiers. Alexander the Great and Achilles are both gays.
 
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