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Serious Oppie Wanker Sylvia Wants To Anyhow Up Insurance Claims And Make Premiums More Ex For Sinkies! Vote WP Out!

JohnTan

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Generous Asset
The Government’s stance on public healthcare insurance schemes like Eldershield and Careshield Life have riled many Singaporeans, especially as it was reiterated in parliament this week that the authorities collected a hefty $3.3 billion in premiums and only paid out $133 million to policyholders.

In the midst of the parliamentary debate on this hot topic, Workers’ Party chairman Sylvia Lim shared the story of an elderly resident who was denied help from Eldershield until it was too late.

The opposition MP revealed that the resident, an amputee who was suffering from advanced kidney failure, was an Eldershield policyholder until the scheme revoked his benefits since he could “partially” perform 6 activities of daily living (ADLs).

The Government considers individuals severely disabled and will pay out insurance benefits when they can do three out the following six ADLs: washing themselves; dressing themselves; feeding themselves; using the toilet by themselves; moving indoors by themselves; moving from a bed to an upright chair by themselves.

Even though the resident was so sick that he could only do these activities “partially,” the authorities decided to discontinue his benefits.



When Lim stepped in to appeal the decision on the resident’s behalf, she was told that the resident must fill out more paperwork. Since the resident was languishing in a hospice at this time, his daughter had to do the necessary. A month after the authorities decided to restore his Eldershield benefits, the resident died.

Lim shared in Parliament:

“This resident, Mr K, was suffering from an advanced stage of kidney failure and already had his leg amputated earlier due to diabetes. The insurer later decided to discontinue Mr K’s Eldershield benefits as the insurer’s panel doctor had assessed that he could perform all of the six activities of daily living “although partially”.
“When I appealed on his behalf for a re-assessment, the insurer wrote back to him to fill up another claim form. Meanwhile he was admitted to a hospice. When I saw him there, he requested me to write to the insurer to say that he would not be filling up the form as he was in the hospice.

“Eventually, his daughter filled up the form, and I understand that the hospice doctors assisted to get his Eldershield benefits restored. But within a month, he was dead.”
The resident’s brother, Facebook user GJ GJ, spoke up on social media and said that his brother passed away in May this year. Revealing that they belong to a low-income family, GJ shared that his sister-in-law went “from one institution to another and (kept) getting turned down bec we never met their protocol”.

Adding that his young nieces who are in their 20s were the ones who kept the household running, GJ added that the paperwork his family had to fill out before receiving help was unbelievable and that his brother struggled before he passed:

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Expressing concern for other ailing policyholders like Mr K, Lim asked as Parliament convened on Tuesday:

“Mr Speaker, I do not know what rigorous standard is applied to determine if a potential ElderShield claimant is disabled enough. When I read about the ElderShield premiums in the billions that have been collected over the years, it struck me how Mr K and his family have apparently been abandoned in their time of need. Is the experience of Mr K an aberration? If this is going to be the experience that will be carried over to CareShield Life, it would be unacceptable.

“I am concerned that the “3-ADLs test”, which will exclude disabled persons facing high medical and care costs, would leave them in a lurch. By the time a person is unable to do 3 ADLs, one is in dire straits. One is either headed towards a nursing home or needs someone to provide care full-time. Before one reaches this stage, if Careshield can give some payouts, then it is likely that the disabled person can continue to be looked after at home with some part-time help. The payouts will fulfill a very important gap, to enable the disabled person to age in place and not tie up another nursing home bed.”

Lim stressed that the new Careshield Life scheme – a mandatory scheme which will be imposed on all adults age 30 and above from 2020 – must review eligibility requirements for payouts so that policyholders receive adequate care and assistance and are not abandoned in their time of need despite paying exorbitant premiums for years:

“I would like to emphasize the point that CareShield Life will be a compulsory scheme, and young Singaporeans will have to pay 37 years of premiums. With this looming fact in mind, CareShield must have meaningful coverage, and my view is that the “3-ADLs test” needs to be reviewed and readjusted to serve this end.”

Former Senior Minister of State for Health Chee Hong Tat responded to Lim that increasing payouts and lowering the claims criterion could make premiums more expensive.

Chee also claimed that the Government is not making “profits” even after it collected $3.3 billion in Eldershield premiums and only paid out $133 million and said: “This balance amount is not profit, it is to meet future liabilities.”

Netizens responding to Mr K’s story were angered and called such insurance schemes “scams”:

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The government’s responses in the debate greatly frustrated several Singaporeans who have slammed the authorities for trying to “squeeze more blood” from citizens:

http://ww2.theindependent.sg/elderl...eeks-after-authorities-reconsidered-his-case/
 

Hypocrite-The

Alfrescian
Loyal
Well said Mr Pappie dog. I do want WP to lose. The 70% needs a good dose of reality and real pap tyranny like the good old days when there were no opposite in parleement. And with the likes of Shan n Vivian running the show....the pap will implement even more anti Singkies policies that will only benefit the oligarchs n their own cronies. Singkies need a good dose of pap tyranny n incompetence n that might make them wake up their idea.
 

winnipegjets

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
More than $3 billions in surplus in a year and premium would increase because of expanded coverage for a small minority?

Sadly, many sinkees will believe the bs from the PAP. Damn the PAP. When you see a PAP member or supporter, show them utter disrespect.
 

hofmann

Alfrescian
Loyal
When careshield kicks in and becomes compulsory, it is as good as a tax on all Singaporeans 30 and above, with the lower earners suffering a bigger hit as a percentage of their income.

It's digusting that over $3b was collected for eldercare and only $133m paid out. Less than 5% of premiums collected. Are they pegging payouts to GIC/temasek TSR?

The government should firmly commit to payout more benefits or discount premiums if less than XX% is paid out over a 5 year period instead of hoarding the cash in unknown investments.

Or is this another fund raising exercise for more capital injections into our SWFs?
 

greedy and cunning

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Former Senior Minister of State for Health Chee Hong Tat responded to Lim that increasing payouts and lowering the claims criterion could make premiums more expensive.

Chee also claimed that the Government is not making “profits” even after it collected $3.3 billion in Eldershield premiums and only paid out $133 million and said: “This balance amount is not profit, it is to meet future liabilities.”
his logic is contradictory

More than $3 billions in surplus in a year and premium would increase because of expanded coverage for a small minority?

Sadly, many sinkees will believe the bs from the PAP. Damn the PAP. When you see a PAP member or supporter, show them utter disrespect.
indirectly the scums are saying it is a first class scam to extract more blood from the sillypootains
 

hofmann

Alfrescian
Loyal
At the media briefing on GIC’s annual reports, the sovereign wealth fund company handling taxes and CPF retirement funds claimed reported it’s lowest twenty-year return since 2009.

The twenty-year return indicator is determined by GIC, which refuses to declare year-to-year income statement. According to GIC, the twenty-year return fell from 4% in 2016 to 3.7% in 2017, and then further to 3.4% in 2016.

GIC did not declare how much losses were made, but it is estimated to be US$10 billion in 2018.
Refusing to admit that GIC lost money, chief investment officer Jeffrey Jaensubhakij tried to propagandise the bad news saying that the “best returns are only dropping out”:
“It really isn’t that recent returns have been poorer, but that the best returns are dropping out from 20 years ago.”​
GIC CEO Chow Kiat blamed the losses due to “disruptions”:
“In the past, start-ups tried to sell things to incumbents. They invent something, come up with new services and products and sell them to the incumbents. This time round, they are not just doing that, they want to take over and disrupt incumbents and whole industries.”​

GIC borrows from Singaporeans’ CPF money and the tax collections by paying only a coupon rate pegged to the CPF Ordinary Account at 2.5%. Any margin earned above the coupon rate is kept as private profits by GIC, where GIC Chairman Lee Hsien Loong is estimated to draw S$10 million a year on top of his S$2.2 million a year salary as Prime Minister. Unlike other sovereign wealth fund companies, Singapore’s GIC and Temasek Holdings – where Lee Hsien Loong’s wife Ho Ching sit as CEO due to legalised corruptions – do not declare the salaries drawn by the management.

In 2015, it was reported that Temasek Holdings spend S$1 billion in “administration” a year, including salaries.

In recent months, the ruling party PAP government raised numerous taxes to fill GIC’s pockets. Water prices were raised by 30%, electricity tariff by 13.7%, carpark fees by 40%, airport taxes and new taxes like a GST increase and sugar tax have been decided.
 

Seee3

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Refusing to admit that GIC lost money, chief investment officer Jeffrey Jaensubhakij tried to propagandise the bad news saying that the “best returns are only dropping out”:
“It really isn’t that recent returns have been poorer, but that the best returns are dropping out from 20 years ago.”​
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Very interesting to note that 20 years ago is 1998, a year after the Asia financial crisis and in that year gic got the best return.
 

Bad New Brown

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Loyal
No worries sinkies will vote in more WP members and make a mess for their employers :devilish: and foreign :poop: here.

Do not underestimate sinkies :smile:
 

mojito

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Loyal
his logic is contradictory


indirectly the scums are saying it is a first class scam to extract more blood from the sillypootains

No contradictions. Give you more chicken in your chicken rice, you will eat more then we have to charge you more. Very easy to understand, no scam just good business sense.
 

twentyfour

Alfrescian
Loyal
What FUCKING CHAO CHEEBYE logic is that?

We are saying since so little has been paid out in claims versus so much premium collected, we can afford to increase payouts.

FUCKING CHAO CHEEBYE retorted using CHEEBYE LOGIC that increasing payout will lead to increased premium.

That misses the point.

The point is that there is SO much reserve, there is scope to increase payout and yet maintain level premium.

FUCKING CHEEBYE CHAO LAMPAR CHEEBYE DELIBERATELY MISS THE POINT AND CREATE FALSE DILEMNA. KNN BEI CHAO CHEEBYE
 

Hypocrite-The

Alfrescian
Loyal
When careshield kicks in and becomes compulsory, it is as good as a tax on all Singaporeans 30 and above, with the lower earners suffering a bigger hit as a percentage of their income.

It's digusting that over $3b was collected for eldercare and only $133m paid out. Less than 5% of premiums collected. Are they pegging payouts to GIC/temasek TSR?

The government should firmly commit to payout more benefits or discount premiums if less than XX% is paid out over a 5 year period instead of hoarding the cash in unknown investments.

Or is this another fund raising exercise for more capital injections into our SWFs?
70% voted for it..and when the pap wins all the seats... hahahhaha.. premiums must be paid at year 0...and will increase year on year at a compounded rate and pay out at 1%. Singkies will get what they vote for...
 

songsongjurong

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Loyal
S$3,000,000,000 - S$133,000,000 = S$2,870,000,000 ($2.87billion profit) !!! if this is not HUAT !!!! WHAT IS ???!!!!!

insatiable greedY DEVILS now conjuring up with Careeshield ! WE ARE TOPPING UP GAMBLING QUEEN LOSSES !! WHAT NEXT ? INFANTSHIELD !!!! TEENSHIELD !!!!! NS-SHIELD!!!!
 

shittypore

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Loyal
Sylvia shld be strip and cane, she's truly a double headed snake. PAP surely must be relieve tat she took this issue to increase premium.
 
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