Ong YK's FB post: "Why roll back to Phase 2 when we plan to live with COVID-19? Why should everyone else pay for the people who were irresponsible?"

[UltimaOnline]

Ong Ye Kung
31 minutes ago
I have received several valid queries, including from my friends on WhatsApp, asking why roll back to Phase 2 (Heightened Alert) when we plan to live with COVID-19? Why should everyone else pay for the mistakes of people who were irresponsible?
The Multi-Ministry Taskforce (MTF) explained this during our press conference yesterday, but let me summarise the key points here.
Like everyone, I am upset with the irresponsible behaviour of people in the KTV cluster, but it is not the reason for the reversion to Phase 2(HA).
In fact, the MTF thought we could control the KTV cluster, and decided to keep F&B establishments open with the 2/5 pax rule, i.e. allow five pax if all are fully vaccinated.
Indeed, the number of cases from this cluster has come down over the past few days.
What caused a slide back to Phase 2 (HA) is the Jurong Fishery Port cluster. Unfortunately, while our fishmongers and stall assistants were going about earning an honest living, they got infected at the Port. As they went on to work at various markets around the island, many more cases in the community were seeded.
Markets are frequented by seniors, many of whom remain unvaccinated. This is most worrying, and we are at risk of an uncontrollable rise in cases, which could potentially result in many severe illnesses or even deaths. So we need to preemptively tighten up social activities.
Some asked me why suspend restaurants, given that there have been no cases detected in those settings.
Unfortunately it does not work like that. If 5 friends meet for dinner, each has 5 people at home, who in turn meet their friends in groups of 5, we have a network of 5x5x5=125 connections for the virus to work itself through. This will turbo charge the Jurong Fishery Port cluster further.
What is positive is that 50% of our population has received two doses. It is a good rate but needs to go higher. This percentage will be going up by 1 percentage point every day. In 2 weeks, we will be at 64% or more. That will put us in a much stronger and resilient position when we review the Phase 2 (HA) rules.
We are so close to being in a much stronger and confident position. Given the gravity of the Jurong Fishery Port cluster, we felt it is not the time to risk it all now.
It’s a frustrating situation, but I hope with my explanation, we understand why the measures are necessary.

 

[nayr69sg]

It is called LAN LAN

 

[sweetiepie]

Some asked me why suspend restaurants, given that there have been no cases detected in those settings

Onllee stoopid people will ask this type of question

 

[sweetiepie]

What is positive is that 50% of our population has received two doses. It is a good rate but needs to go higher. This percentage will be going up by 1 percentage point every day. In 2 weeks, we will be at 64% or more. That will put us in a much stronger and resilient position when we review the Phase 2 (HA) rules.

KNN oyk made it sounds like vaccination is the 仙丹 for success KNN in this case pap should cull out all the non vaccinated to poke their arse or make shn mandatory for them KNN

 

[dredd]

KNN oyk made it sounds like vaccination is the 仙丹 for success KNN in this case pap should cull out all the non vaccinated to poke their arse or make shn mandatory for them KNN

In this situation, vaccination is the key to opening up sinkeepoo. There is no other way unless you want to wear a mask forever. It weakens the link between getting the virus n death or serious illness. Living with the virus also need to do it with caution lah

 

[nayr69sg]

Soon the Singapore public will be split into vaccinated and not vaccinated.

The majority will be vaccinated. And this majority will demand that those not vaccinated be punished.

It will become a bone of discontent in Singapore

 

[laksaboy]

Soon the Singapore public will be split into vaccinated and not vaccinated.

The majority will be vaccinated. And this majority will demand that those not vaccinated be punished.

It will become a bone of discontent in Singapore

If vaccines are indeed that effective, why pick a bone with the unvaccinated? They're well-protected anyway.

Unless of course, they're blaming the unvaccinated for not enabling the PAP technocrats to meet some arbitrary KPIs, which they assume is the main hindrance to a 'return to normalcy'.

 

[nayr69sg]

If vaccines are indeed that effective, why pick a bone with the unvaccinated? They're well-protected anyway.

Unless of course, they're blaming the unvaccinated for not enabling the PAP technocrats to meet some arbitrary KPIs, which they assume is the main hindrance to a 'return to normalcy'.

Vaccines are not effective to prevent infection. But it seems to reduce severity of infection.

The bone is because of all these shut downs.

Some businesses already angry eg Gyms and Exercise. Aesthetics.

 

[glockster]

Why is it so difficult for people to get vaccinated? Just get it done with, since it will offer some if not a lot of protection against the virus.

 

[orh mee suah]

Ong YK has been a FTA negotiator for some years. During this time, he must have acquired some of the CECA indian's traits like flip pratas, turnabout in decisions and things like that.

 

[nayr69sg]

Why is it so difficult for people to get vaccinated? Just get it done with, since it will offer some if not a lot of protection against the virus.

Some believe the vaccine is poison and will kill all those who take it. Hence taking it is as good as committing suicide.

 

[porcaputtana]

I agree those who refuse vaccination should be punished. Why should the many suffer for the ignorant foolish few?

 

[pvtpublic]

risk adverse ministers who are more interested in protecting their political careers and salaries.

Any fool can make the safe decision after reviewing the data. don't need a scholar to do that

It's true leadership we are lacking, where someone has the balls to put his neck on the line and make a tough and risky decision.

Utterly hopeless ministers. locking down everyone is the easiest thing to do. looks like there is no one left to make the hard choices.

 

[Loofydralb]

Beating around the bush blaming everybody else but themselves for the indian virus.
Mudderfarkers.

 

[porcaputtana]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57907678

even the frogs are coming down hard on non vaxxers

MOH should have the guts to deny non vaxxers ICU care. Let them die so we may live.

 

[porcaputtana]

Beating around the bush blaming everybody else but themselves for the indian virus.
Mudderfarkers.

The Indian virus will come either way.

you wanna blame anyone blame the Indians for their filthy mass orgy religious festival turning the entire country into a cesspool Petri dish to create a new virulent strain.

 

[nayr69sg]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57907678

even the frogs are coming down hard on non vaxxers

MOH should have the guts to deny non vaxxers ICU care. Let them die so we may live.

Goes against medical ethics. Any doctor that does that will be punished severely.

 

[porcaputtana]

Goes against medical ethics. Any doctor that does that will be punished severely.

Try explaining medical ethics to the hundreds of thousands of people affected by this round and round cycle of lockdowns.

Whenever ICU is full in any hospital a judgement call has to be made on who can be admitted and who to transfer out. So some will be denied ICU care. Medical ethics is for the lawyers who don’t have to deal with real world resource management.

 

[nayr69sg]

Try explaining medical ethics to the hundreds of thousands of people affected by this round and round cycle of lockdowns.

Whenever ICU is full in any hospital a judgement call has to be made on who can be admitted and who to transfer out. So some will be denied ICU care. Medical ethics is for the lawyers who don’t have to deal with real world resource management.

As a doctor you should know it all depends on what SMC and MOH decide.

You can pull out some "ethical limit" ruling if you want.

If ICU is full and drs have to choose prioritizing beds between vaccinated and unvaccinated patients then sure we can justify vaccinated has better chances so gets priority. But I fail to see how if ICU has beds and unvaccinated patient needs a bed and the "judgment call" is to not give the bed to the patient that can stand up in court.

The 4G leaders are not as tough and hard nosed as LKY.

Doctors are also held to higher standards of ethics and morality compared to Ministers and Politicians. In times of war doctors have to treat the enemy soldiers that may have tried to bomb the hospital and kill the doctors and nurses as well. Geneva convention.

 

[Confuseous]

One-trick pony ministers. They forgot to impose same stringent testing standards on the Indonesian fishermen
the way they did to the Causeway lorry drivers.