Next carrier #003 is nuke & larger than Gerald Ford say China after #002 back from maiden sail

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After the maiden sail sea trial of 5 days (& night) #002 is back in port to prepare for next test.

Then they say #003 is a nuke larger and more advanced than US Navy's top (expensive like crap) Gerald Ford. This #003 & #004 are under construction and sections of them seen at the naval yard's satellite photos. There are hundreds of sections simultaneously built and will later be jointed together inside dry dock, hoisted by giant gentry cranes.


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003核动力航母已开建？排水量11万吨载机70架 直接超越美国福特级
2018-05-08 09:32 美国 /中国 /航母

003型核动力航母是中国海军的终极目标

中国建核动力航母：美国海军的最坏噩梦要成为现实？5日，美国《国家利益》以此为题刊文称，过去10年，中国迈出大步，获得和改良了一艘苏联老航母，在建一艘同款的新航母。从一些报道来看，中国会在第四艘航母上使用核动力。预计003型排水量会是11万吨，将是世界上第一艘能匹敌美国最强超级航母——“福特”级的航母。中国的这种航母速度或为30节，能搭载70架舰载机——很像美国的“尼米兹”级或“福特”级航母。中国此前积累的经验无疑会加入到设计和建造过程中，造出更有效、强大的航母。

准备出海的001A型让中国掌握了航母技术

如果说此前关于中国建造核动力航母的言论都是中国的自媒体在炒作的话，那么，现在美国官方的媒体正式报道，则说明上述说法得到了国外的确认。从现在的事实来看，被称为001型航母的16号“辽宁”舰已经形成了战斗力，该舰今后将搭载至少24架歼-15进行远航训练任务，并且还为被称为001A型的17号“山东”舰培训了足够的合格舰员。但001A型的17号“山东”舰也被中国官方媒体称为002航母，据悉中国紧接着已开建002型常规动力弹射起飞航母，后者的排水量将从001A型6.5万吨上升为8.5万吨，歼-15将达到48架。

为航母配的歼-15SD舰载电子战机

本文重点说的就是被称为003型的超级核动力航母，如果美媒的说法没错的话，那么其排水量达到11万吨将直接超过美国的CVN-78“福特”级，因为后者的排水量只有10.16万吨。在主力舰载机方面，“福特”级将主要搭载F/A-18E/F、F/A-18G、F-35C和MQ-25型舰载无人机，从而形成三代机与四代机混合装载、有人机与无人机协同的新局面。而从中国现在的发展局面来看，003型航母也会采用这种搭载模式，即主力舰载机包括歼-15T、歼-15SD、歼-31和“彩虹-X”舰载无人机，配置与部属规模向美军看齐。

中国航母或选择利剑作为无人舰载机

从各项数据来看，中国003型核动力航母的赶超对象显然就是“福特”级，两者几乎毫无悬念的想象：强大的核动力推动、排水量几无差别、舰载机十分类同、具有全球部署的能力。如果这样来分析的话，也就等于证明中国发展003型航母就是为了与美国海军在全球进行一对一的对抗，也只有具备这一能力中国海军才能毫无顾忌的走向远洋大海。而如果使用之前的001A或002航母，也许两艘都无法同美国一艘“尼米兹”级或“福特”级航母相提并论，所以003型航母才是中国最终的发展目标。

中国发展航母的远期目标是全球大洋作战

分析认为，就航母发展计划来看，世界上包括美国在内，没有一个国家能够和中国相提并论，没有一个国家能够做到在不到20年里从第一代发展到第三代航母。现在001A即将出海海试，002型航母已开建了3年，那么，相信随着国产新型核动力堆在2018～2019年间完成试验，已完成设计的003型航母即将进入开工阶段。毫无疑问，003型航母建造工期将更长，建造技术将更复杂，但如果该舰首艘能够在2024年前问世的话，那么中国海军一定会在2030年实现角逐全球的伟大目标！


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After the first sea trial, on May 18, China’s second aircraft carrier returned to Dalian Shipyard. This aircraft carrier is China's first domestic aircraft carrier. It was launched in April last year and began trial on May 13, 2018. (Source: Military Network English)

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003 nuclear power aircraft carrier has been built? Displacement of 110,000 tons carrier aircraft 70 aircraft directly beyond the United States Ford
2018-05-08 09:32 United States / China / Aircraft Carrier

Type 003 nuclear-powered aircraft carrier is the ultimate goal of the Chinese Navy

China builds a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier: The worst nightmare for the US Navy needs to become a reality. On the 5th, the US "National Interests" published an article saying that over the past 10 years, China has taken big steps to obtain and improve a Soviet old aircraft carrier and build a new aircraft carrier of the same paragraph. According to some reports, China will use nuclear power on the fourth aircraft carrier. The 003 displacement is expected to be 110,000 tons. It will be the first aircraft carrier in the world to match the United States’ strongest super carrier, the “Ford” class. China's aircraft carriers may have a speed of 30 knots and can carry 70 carrier-based aircraft - much like the United States' Nimitz or "Ford" class aircraft carrier. China's accumulated experience will undoubtedly be added to the design and construction process to create a more effective and powerful aircraft carrier.


The Type 001A Preparing for the Sea Has Made China Master Aircraft Carrier Technology

If previous remarks on China’s construction of nuclear-powered aircraft carriers are all based on Chinese media’s hype, then official U.S. media reports now indicate that these claims have been confirmed abroad. Judging from the current facts, the 16th "Liaoning" ship known as the 001-type aircraft carrier has already formed a combat capability. The ship will carry at least 24 歼-15 voyage training missions in the future, and is also known as the Type 001A. The "Shandong" ship on the 17th trained enough qualified sailors. However, the 001A Type 17 “Shandong” ship was also known as the 002 carrier by the Chinese state media. It was reported that China had already started building a type 002 conventional-power catapult to take off the aircraft carrier. The latter’s displacement will increase from 6.5 million tons to 10,000 tons to 8,000 tons. Tons, 歼-15 will reach 48 aircraft.


歼-15SD shipborne electronic fighter aircraft equipped for aircraft carrier

This article focuses on what is known as the 003-type super nuclear-powered aircraft carrier. If the American media is correct, then its displacement of 110,000 tons will directly exceed the US CVN-78 "Ford" level because of the latter's displacement. Only 10,160 tons. In terms of the main carrier aircraft, the "Ford" class will mainly carry F/A-18E/F, F/A-18G, F-35C and MQ-25 shipboard drones, forming three generations and four generations of aircraft. A new situation of hybrid loading, manned aircraft and unmanned aerial vehicles. Judging from China’s current development situation, the 003-type aircraft carrier will also adopt this piggyback mode, that is, the main carrier aircraft includes the J-15T, J-15SD, J-31, and “Rainbow-X” shipborne drones. The configuration and subordinates are on par with the U.S. military.


Chinese aircraft carrier chooses sharp sword as unmanned carrier aircraft

Judging from the data, China's 003 nuclear-powered aircraft carrier is clearly the "Ford" class, and there is almost no suspense in the imagination: a strong nuclear power drive, no difference in displacement, and a similar carrier-based aircraft. With global deployment capabilities. If we analyze in this way, it is tantamount to proving that China's development of the 003 carrier is to conduct one-on-one confrontation with the US Navy on a global scale, and that only with this capability can the Chinese navy be able to move toward the sea without any scruples. However, if you use the previous 001A or 002 carrier, you may not be able to compare the two ships with the United States a "Nimitz" or "Ford" class aircraft carrier, so the 003 aircraft carrier is China's ultimate development goals.


China's long-term goal for developing aircraft carriers is global ocean operations

According to the analysis, according to the aircraft carrier development plan, no country in the world, including the United States, can compare with China. No country can develop from the first generation to the third generation of aircraft carriers in less than 20 years. Now that the 001A is about to go to the sea and the 002 aircraft carrier has been under construction for three years, it is believed that with the completion of the trial of the new domestic nuclear power reactor between 2018 and 2019, the aircraft carrier 003 that has been designed will soon enter the start-up phase. There is no doubt that the construction period of the 003-type aircraft carrier will be longer and the construction technology will be more complicated. However, if the first ship of the ship can be launched before 2024, then the Chinese Navy will surely achieve its great goal of global competition in 2030!

 

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http://www.chinatimes.com/cn/newspapers/20171110000821-260301

陆003航母轮廓确定 跨代式升级


上海江南造船厂的卫星图中有疑似解放军新航母分段。（取自新浪网）


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002航母舰体垂下的消磁电缆。（取自新浪网）

歼-15舰载战斗机从辽寧舰飞行甲板滑跃起飞。（中新社资料照片）
上海江南造船厂建造「003」号中国大陆第三艘国產航母的说法在网路上盛传，最新的说法，「003」最终轮廓确定。

俄罗斯军事专家瓦西里‧卡申7日，在为俄罗斯卫星通讯社撰写的文章中指出，中国大陆在国防技术领域上再获新进展，特别是建造配备电磁弹射器航母的进展。从技术角度看，「003」号是一艘风险极大船舰。这种极其昂贵的军舰在建成之后，必须经过很长的一段时间才能具有全面作战能力。另一风险在于把「003」号航母变成另一艘超贵的测试台，目地不过是为未来累积经验。

美舰故障缠身战力降

美国「福特」级航母，每45秒可弹射一架舰载机，平均一日出勤量可达到180架次，这些数据都比还在使用蒸汽弹射器的「尼米兹」级提高不少。技术先进的同时，也带来困扰，比如「福特」级航母首艘CVN-78「福特」号，早于2013年11月下水，却因为种种问题一再拖延服役时间，其中问题就包括电磁弹射器运行不稳，儘管已交付美国海军但还不具备完整战力。

紧跟美国发展电磁弹射器的中国大陆，原先就没有使用蒸汽弹射器的技术经验，现在跳级到了电磁弹射，跨越式的发展的确令人感到振奋。但也看到其中的风险，比如电磁弹射器基本是和综合电力推进系统（IEP）一起上舰，使用此一技术的英国45型和美国DDG-1000型驱逐舰都是故障缠身，并不具备可靠战力。

同时，福特号在试验电磁弹射器时出现了严重散热问题、故障率高、弹射效率还远远达不到当初的设计。俄罗斯专家对中国在「003」号航母上直接使用电磁弹射器技术產生怀疑，如果中国在「003」上也使用，那「003」号航母就可能是一艘昂贵的试验舰。

走出新路 配尖端武器

中国已对舰载机歼-15进行了千百次陆基电磁弹射试验，也就是说，中国已经为「003」号航母积累了充足的技术数据，虽然试验性质可能仍然存在，但也有可能比美国技术更成熟。

中国舰载航空兵走向远洋指日可待，中国在「002」号航母上验证了制造完整航母的能力，由于要实现跨代式发展，每一艘的试验性质都非常浓，包括「003」号航母使用全通式平直甲板、强迫快速蓄能装置、综合电力推进系统、电磁弹射器、雷射炮和磁轨炮等尖端装备和科技。

全新技术的应用可能带来不确定性，从舷号16号「辽寧」舰开始，中国对于航母的制造和操作都是崭新的开始和试验！完全从零开始的中国解放军海军，反而有可能走出一条新路。

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美军认为福特级航母不靠谱 中国003航母或将弯道超车

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被美军海军寄予厚望的新一代航母——福特级的首舰“杰拉尔德·福特”号（CVN-78）经过一波三折，好不容易在2017年7月22日正式宣布服役，这标志着美海军在时隔5年后重新回到了11艘航母规模的时代。在花旗招展、锣鼓喧天的庆典仪式上，美国总·统发表了热情洋溢的演说：“福特级航母是目前世界上最大最先进的航母，是美海军的骄傲，是美国力的象征，也是美向全世界发出的最强音。美国当前形势不是小好、中好，而是一片大好。”

在福特级航母首舰的服役仪式上的美总·统
然而仅仅过了半年时间，五角大楼在递交给国会的验收报告中却对福特级航母做出了如下评价：“可靠性极差，乃至于存在不可预知的缺陷。” 其中福特级航母的一系列关键系统包括：电磁弹射系统、电磁拦阻系统、武器升降机、雷达等等，也被评价为“几乎不可信任”。尤其是电磁弹射系统和电磁拦阻系统，平均无故障运行次数仅为400次和20次，而且由于两者的电力系统无法互相独立工作，导致维护保养工作的难度极大。报告评估福特级航母连续4天保持堪用状态的可能性仅为 9%，甚至无法完成最简单的作战任务。

福特级航母服役半年后却得到了一个大大的差评
鉴于问题重重的福特级航母短期之内实在是难堪大任，美国不得不考虑将原定于2017年完成的船体耐冲击试验（在船体附近的水下引爆炸药，模拟冲击波考验船体的结构强度）推迟到2024年，同时在2019年军费预算中增加了18亿美元用于对福特级航母进行继续研发，如此一来已经是130亿美元天价的福特级航母，其建造成本将又一次创造新高，距离实际部署更是遥遥无期。与此同时，大洋彼岸的中国也正在雄心勃勃地推进自己的航母发展计划。作为当今世界唯二有能力大量生产并装备航母的两个国家，中美两国的航母竞赛格外引人瞩目。

美国的电磁弹射和电磁拦阻两大系统的可靠性均严重不达标

当然从双方现有航母的对比来看，中方的家当显然还不够看，仅有一艘滑跃式中型常规动力航母在役，还有一艘滑跃式中型常规动力航母下水舾装，美方则手握11艘弹射式重型核动力航母笑而不语。中国非常清楚如果按部就班地进行追赶，那么结果只能是亦步亦趋、永远落后。为此中方在建造第二艘国产航母之前，经过了认真慎重地方案论证，最终选择了跨过美军已经运作了长达半个世纪的蒸汽弹射阶段，直接上马电磁弹射系统。做出这样的选择毫无疑问需要巨大的勇气和魄力，而且也需要足够的实力和底气。

中国的电磁弹射技术后来居上
中国的实力和底气就来自于马伟明团队研发的世界领先的综合全电技术。美国的福特级航母和DDG1000驱逐舰之所以问题不断，主要原因就是采用的是第一代的中压交流综合全电系统，存在重量体积大、功率密度低、供电可靠性差等缺点。而马伟明团队率先突破了第二代的中压直流综合全电系统，领先美方至少十年以上（美方现在才开始进行预研）。以电磁弹射系统为例，我国研制的电磁弹射系统无故障运行次数已经可以轻松达到数千次，完全满足上舰实装的要求。003型航母一步到位实现电磁弹射、电磁拦阻、全电推进三位一体也是顺理成章、水到渠成的事情。

中国已正式开工的003型航母有望实现弯道超车
先天不足的福特级航母如今大有沦为一艘“科研训练舰”的趋势，相关的核心子系统还面临着推倒重来的可能，不过相信以美国的经济和科技实力，在付出足够的时间和金钱代价之后，福特级航母还是能够重振雄风的。但是这无疑留给了中国弯道超车的绝佳机会，003型航母首舰已经正式开工，按照正常的建造周期，下水时间应该在2021年左右，而且会采用一南一北同时建造的方式。就算美方勇猛精进，也很难在那个时候追平中国在综合全电系统方面十年以上的领先优势，届时美方将首次在航母领域面临不仅部分技术不占优，连生产能力也不占优的尴尬局面。回想往昔，真是沧海桑田，一切都变了。



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The satellite image of the Shanghai Jiangnan Shipyard contained a suspected new aircraft carrier segment of the PLA. (taken from Sina.com)


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Degaussing cable from 002 carrier body. (taken from Sina.com)
The J-15 carrier fighter jet took off from the flight deck of the Liaoning ship. (China News Agency photos)
The statement that Shanghai Jiangnan Shipyard built the "003" No. 3 carrier made in China was widely reported on the Internet. In the latest statement, the final contour of "003" was determined.

On the 7th, Russian military expert Vasily Kashin stated in an article written for the Russian Satellite News Agency that the Chinese mainland has made new progress in the field of national defense technology, especially the development of aircraft carriers equipped with electromagnetic catapults. From a technical point of view, the "003" is a risky ship. After the completion of this extremely expensive warship, it must take a long period of time to have full combat capabilities. Another risk is to turn the "003" aircraft carrier into another ultra-expensive test station. The goal is only to accumulate experience for the future.

US ship faults ridden

The US "Ford" class aircraft carrier can launch a carrier-based aircraft every 45 seconds, with an average of 180 trips per day. These figures are much higher than those of the Nimitz, which still uses steam catapults. At the same time, technological advances have brought troubles. For example, the "Ford" class aircraft carrier's first CVN-78 "Ford" was launched as early as November 2013. However, due to various problems, it has repeatedly dragged on service time, among which problems include electromagnetic catapults. The operation is unstable, and although it has been delivered to the U.S. Navy, it still does not have full combat capability.

China's mainland, which is closely following the United States’ development of electromagnetic catapults, originally had no technical experience in using steam catapults. Now it has jumped to the level of electromagnetic catapults. The development by leaps and bounds is indeed encouraging. But also see the risks, such as the electromagnetic catapult is basically on board with the integrated electric propulsion system (IEP), the use of this technology, the British Type 45 and the United States DDG-1000 destroyer are fault-ridden, not reliable Combat power.

At the same time, the Ford’s serious heat-dissipation problems during the testing of electromagnetic catapults, high failure rates, and ejection efficiency are still far from the original design. Russian experts questioned China’s direct use of electromagnetic catapult technology on the “003” aircraft carrier. If China also uses it on “003,” the “003” carrier may be an expensive test ship.

Get out of the way with sophisticated weapons

China has carried out thousands of ground-based electromagnetic ejection tests on the carrier-based aircraft J-15, which means that China has accumulated sufficient technical data for the “003” aircraft carrier. Although the nature of the test may still exist, it may be better than U.S. technology is more mature.

China’s ship-borne aviation forces are just around the corner. China has verified the ability to build a complete aircraft carrier on the “002” aircraft carrier. Due to the need for inter-generational development, the experimental nature of each vessel is very strong, including the use of the “003” aircraft carrier. General-purpose flat decks, forced rapid energy storage devices, integrated electric propulsion systems, electromagnetic catapults, laser cannons and rail guns and other sophisticated equipment and technologies.

The application of new technology may cause uncertainty. Starting from the No. 16 “Liaoning” ship, China’s manufacturing and operation of aircraft carriers is a brand new start and test! The Chinese People's Liberation Army navy, which started completely from scratch, may instead embark on a new path.

(Wang newspaper)



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U.S. military believes that Ford class aircraft carrier does not fly China 003 carrier or will overtake the curve
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The new generation of aircraft carrier, the Ford-class "Jeraird Ford" (CVN-78), which was highly hoped for by the US Navy, had a wave of twists and turns and finally announced its official service on July 22, 2017. This marked the United States. The Navy returned to the age of 11 aircraft carriers five years later. At the celebration ceremony of Citigroup’s influx and drumsticks, U.S. General Tune issued a passionate speech: “Ford class aircraft carrier is currently the world’s largest and most advanced aircraft carrier, is the pride of the US Navy, and is a symbol of U.S. power. The strongest tone the United States has sent to the world. The current situation in the United States is not a good one, but a good one. It is a very good one."

The U.S. General System at the service ceremony of the Ford class aircraft carrier
The U.S. General System at the service ceremony of the Ford class aircraft carrier
However, after only half a year, the Pentagon made the following evaluation of Ford’s aircraft carrier in the acceptance report submitted to the National Assembly: “The reliability is so poor that there are even unpredictable defects.” Among them is a series of key for Ford class aircraft carriers. The system includes: Electromagnetic Ejection System, Electromagnetic Barrier System, Weapon Lifter, Radar, etc. It has also been evaluated as "almost untrustworthy." In particular, the electromagnetic ejection system and the electromagnetic blocking system have an average failure-free operation times of only 400 times and 20 times, and because the power systems of the two cannot work independently from each other, the maintenance work is extremely difficult. The report assesses that the probability of a Ford-class aircraft carrier remaining available for four consecutive days is only 9%, and it is not even possible to complete the simplest combat mission.

After six months of service, the Ford aircraft carrier got a big bad review.
After six months of service, the Ford aircraft carrier got a big bad review.
Given that the problematic Ford class aircraft carrier is really an embarrassing task within a short period of time, the United States has to consider delaying the hull impact test that was scheduled to be completed in 2017 (detonation of explosives in the water near the hull, simulating shock waves to delay the structural strength of the hull). By 2024, at the same time, US$1.8 billion will be added to the 2019 military budget for the continued research and development of Ford class aircraft carriers. This is already a Ford class aircraft carrier with a sky-high price of US$13 billion. Its construction costs will once again create new heights. The actual deployment is nowhere in sight. At the same time, the other side of the ocean in China is also advancing its aircraft carrier development plan with ambition. As the only two countries in the world today capable of mass production and equipment of aircraft carriers, the aircraft carrier race between China and the United States is particularly eye-catching.

The reliability of the two major systems of electromagnetic ejection and electromagnetic blocking in the United States is seriously below the standard
The reliability of the two major systems of electromagnetic ejection and electromagnetic blocking in the United States is seriously below the standard

Of course, judging from the comparison between the existing aircraft carriers of the two sides, China’s family property is obviously not enough to see. Only one medium-sized conventional mid-aircraft carrier is in service, and another is a mid-size conventionally-powered aircraft carrier. The US holds it. 11 catapults of heavy nuclear-powered aircraft carriers laughed without words. China is very clear that if we follow up in a step-by-step manner, the result will only be a step and a lag. For this reason, before the construction of the second domestic aircraft carrier, the Chinese side had carefully and carefully demonstrated the plan, and finally chose to cross the steam catapult stage that the US military had operated for half a century and directly launched the electromagnetic ejection system. There is no doubt that making such a choice requires great courage and courage, but it also requires sufficient strength and strength.

China's electromagnetic catapult technology comes from behind
China's electromagnetic catapult technology comes from behind
China’s strength and strength comes from the world’s leading integrated all-electric technology developed by Ma Weiming’s team. The main reason why the Ford class aircraft carrier and the DDG1000 destroyer in the US continues to be the main reason is that the first-generation medium-voltage AC integrated all-electric system was adopted, which has the disadvantages of large weight, low power density, and poor reliability of power supply. Ma Weiming's team took the lead in breaking through the second-generation medium-voltage DC integrated all-electric system, leading the United States at least for more than a decade (the United States has only begun pre-research). Taking the electromagnetic ejector system as an example, the number of trouble-free operation of the electromagnetic ejector system developed in China can easily reach thousands of times, fully meeting the requirements for onboard installation. The 003-type aircraft carrier is a trinity of electromagnetic ejection, electromagnetic blocking, and full electric propulsion.

China's officially launched 003 aircraft carrier is expected to achieve a curve overtaking
China's officially launched 003 aircraft carrier is expected to achieve a curve overtaking
The congenitally formidable Ford aircraft carrier is now declining to become a "scientific research training ship." The relevant core subsystems are still facing the possibility of reversing, but I believe that with the United States' economic and technological strength, we must devote sufficient time and After the cost of money, Ford's aircraft carrier can still regain its glory. However, this is undoubtedly a good opportunity for China to overtake the curve. The first ship of the Type 003 carrier has officially started. According to the normal construction cycle, the time for launching should be around 2021, and it will use a south-north parallel construction method. Even if the US is aggressive, it will be difficult at that time to tie in with China’s lead advantage of more than ten years in the integrated electric power system. At that time, the United States will face not only only some of its technologies are not dominant in the aircraft carrier field, but even the production capacity is not dominant. Awkward situation. Looking back on the past, it was really a matter of time and everything changed.