Many CPF investors get their fingers burnt

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Only 15% made profits larger than 2.5% and 40% made losses: Report

By Janice Heng

MOST investors who use Central Provident Fund (CPF) savings to invest would have been better off leaving their money in their Ordinary Accounts, according to the CPF Investment Scheme's (CPFIS) annual profit and loss report.
This is despite the good performance of investment funds included in the scheme.
In the financial year ended Sept 30 last year, 902,300 investors sold their CPFIS investments.
Only 15 per cent of them made a profit larger than the guaranteed annual 2.5 per cent interest rate for Ordinary Account savings. Another 45 per cent made profits of up to 2.5 per cent. The remaining 40 per cent made a loss.
Under the scheme, members can invest in CPFIS-included funds such as approved unit trusts and equity funds, as well as other investment products such as stocks and shares.
The CPFIS-included funds themselves have performed well.
They posted an average return of 5.17 per cent in the first three months of this year, according to a report by research firm Lipper last month.
The funds have grown by about 29 per cent over the past three years. But individual investors may perform poorly as a result of investing in riskier instruments instead of CPFIS-included funds, said experts.
The gap could reflect a difference in financial knowledge, investment skills and discipline, said Mr Lance Tay, chief executive officer of Tokio Marine Life Insurance Singapore.
"This can be improved with increased financial literacy and discipline, or with guidance from financial advisers," he added.
Barclays senior economist Leong Wai Ho noted that stocks and shares were subject to many more market fluctuations.
"It's better that people stick to professionally guided products like approved funds," he said. "That's more appropriate for something that's supposed to be a person's store of value, their life savings."
Earlier this year, Institute of Policy Studies research fellow Christopher Gee argued that the default risk-return balance on CPF savings is good enough for most members.
"A lack of adequate financial literacy among CPF members and potential retirees may result in sub-optimal decision-making," he noted.
On the one hand, fewer CPFIS investors are making losses now compared with the past decade. From 2004 to 2013, 47 per cent of them incurred realised losses, more than the 40 per cent who made a loss last year.
On the other hand, more investors used to earn profits above the 2.5 per cent Ordinary Account interest rate.
From 2004 to 2013, 18 per cent of investors did better, compared with 15 per cent in the last financial year. More than 25 per cent did from 1993 to 2004.
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http://www.straitstimes.com/news/si...pf-investors-get-their-fingers-burnt-20150615
 
This is the reason why the minimum sum scheme must be maintained.

If CPF was allowed to withdrawn 100% at 55, more than 75% would end up blowing their money and there'd be nothing left for old age.
 
Told you majority of Sinkie are FUCKTARDS but then there are some Sinkie who could make more than 100% from their CPF actually the percentage made keep rising every year.

Guess who? LoLoLoLoL
 
I lost $160,000 over 14 yrs of unit trust!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fucking cpf & OCBC
 
WAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

this shows sinkies are truly fucktards,either that or CPF and OCBC and DBS is peddling them garbage bonds and junk unit trusts.

lmao only 15% made more than 2.5% and 40% actually made negative?????even the retards on wall street can do better than that,even a blindfolded monkey throwing darts at a newspaper can do better than that!!!
 
there's no doubt about it. sinkies are not only fucktards but are also fuckturds. left alone to their follies, they will squander all their cpf savings.
 
Told you majority of Sinkie are FUCKTARDS but then there are some Sinkie who could make more than 100% from their CPF actually the percentage made keep rising every year.

Guess who? LoLoLoLoL

Including you and your family are fucktards right?
 
This is the reason why the minimum sum scheme must be maintained.

If CPF was allowed to withdrawn 100% at 55, more than 75% would end up blowing their money and there'd be nothing left for old age.

Minimum sum has nothing to do with a lousy bourse
 
Earlier this year, Institute of Policy Studies research fellow Christopher Gee argued that the default risk-return balance on CPF savings is good enough for most members.

Only an idiot would make such a claim ...2.5 percent return means negative real return!
 
PAP wants your CPF money ...so look out for more scare stories. If this does not work, look at CPF reducing the list of approved investment vehicles.

If you move your money to those investment vehicles, that's less money for the government to play with.
 
there's no doubt about it. sinkies are not only fucktards but are also fuckturds. left alone to their follies, they will squander all their cpf savings.

That's why we need a defined benefit pension fund to replace the daylight robbery CPF.
 
That's why we need a defined benefit pension fund to replace the daylight robbery CPF.

good fucking idea pegjet,im thinking of starting a capital management company or hedge fund offering my services helping fucktard sinkies to manage and invest their CPF funds.my sales pitch is simple,studies have shown that 40% up to 85% of sinkies are clinically retarded.results have shown that up to 85% of sinkies are unable to meet the low low target of 2.5% of cpf.my investment firm will be called TheNotSoPonziCentralProvidentFund or NotSoPonziCPF for short.

the premise is simple,my company will operate on the basis of a ponzi scheme like CPF.except i guarantee higher returns of 3.0% to 5.5% depending on the time frame of the investment period,for 5 to 10 years,we will guarantee a return of 3.0 percent per annual.for 10 to 20 years,4.0 percent,20 to 30 years 5.0 percent,.just like the CPF,our fees would be any excess returns that we make from "managing" and "investing" your funds.
 
I lost $160,000 over 14 yrs of unit trust!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fucking cpf & OCBC

I have also made $$$ losses. I still own these loss making unit trusts & what is worst is that the bank sells some of these shares because they want the $ for admin fees. Previously there was no admin fee & they were imposed after many people had invested their CPF $:mad:

Now they want people to pay $$ for the medishield life scam.:rolleyes:

I don't expect there will be much left of my CPF IF they let people take it out at 65
 
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