Loyalty is outdated. From Company to country to family...whats next?

[enterprise2]

Everybody knows that company loyalty is outdated. Nobody stays more than 5 years in the same company. If you do, u are dumb and probably viewed as not ambitious and not mobile and less capable...etc. Likewise country loyalty is becoming outdated. Why does Sinkies wants to stay loyal whilst the gahment goes to woo FTs to come in. Face it, we are better off being FTs ourselves and start getting wooed by other countries that want and needs us. Spousal loyalty is next. Divorce rates are skyrocketing. People want to change partners to 'freshen' up their lovelife.

So it does not pay to be loyal. Rite?? Anyone got any views?

 

[syed putra]

Moving around is a lot of hassle. Loyalty is not the issue.

 

[laksaboy]

When it comes to company-employee relationships, some companies deserve the disloyalty they receive. They cut perks and raises, they let the employee do menial chores, they play petty politics (local SMEs are especially guilty of this), they don't send employees for training etc.

When the push factors exceed a certain threshold, people will leave. Simple as that. People don't wake up one day and suddenly say 'I'm going to quit this job'. The discontent brews and accumulates over a period of time.

 

[laksaboy]

And the best way of avoiding a divorce is... to avoid marriage.

When you are single, you have more freedom and are much more mobile.

Marriage is a business contract, with the laws rigged against men. Not worth it.

 

[Ash007]

On company loyalty, yes that is how I felt when I was working back home. However, after coming here, I'm close to 5 years now with my current company. Its not out of loyalty mind you, but actually, the environment. In fact, I'm considered one of the "younger" member, my boss been the company for 30 years. I have at least 5-6 colleague that is more then 10 years now here, a lot more that is above the 5 years mark.

As for FTs, I'm an FT, citizen now, more then half of my department are Asians, mainly PRCs and Ah nehs, with koreans, japanese, viets and the rest. The other comprise of Aussies, Poms, Yanks. We never have any issue with social integration. The only other major group that is missing are the middle-eastern. But there are a few working in the other department. Do we call ourselves aussies at the end of the day. Yes.

As for spousal commitments, I can't say for what the overall statistics are. But, in my work place, most are married with children, 2-3 kids. There are no scandals or rumours that I am aware of.

So morale of the story, you felt this way only because of the environment, either change the environment, or move to another environment that suits you. Mine you, if you felt that loyalty is overrated, you will enjoy being where you are now then.

 

[Getloud]

Company:
If you can work for a good company with a good boss, why move?
Problem is, you can seldom find one these days.
Solution - Be your own boss.

Country:
See my signature.
Solution - Just move on.

Family:
Up to individual with their own values and belief.
Solution - Up to you.

 

[Ash007]

Country:
See my signature.
Solution - Just move on.

Always wanted to ask you this. Have you ran yet?

 

[Getloud]

Akang datang.
Waiting for approval.

 

[Ash007]

Congrats, where you run to then?

Akang datang.
Waiting for approval.

 

[Getloud]

Congrats, where you run to then?

Going to look for Ah Sam long lost legendary seat less bicycle.

 

[enterprise2]

On company loyalty, yes that is how I felt when I was working back home. However, after coming here, I'm close to 5 years now with my current company. Its not out of loyalty mind you, but actually, the environment. In fact, I'm considered one of the "younger" member, my boss been the company for 30 years. I have at least 5-6 colleague that is more then 10 years now here, a lot more that is above the 5 years mark.

As for FTs, I'm an FT, citizen now, more then half of my department are Asians, mainly PRCs and Ah nehs, with koreans, japanese, viets and the rest. The other comprise of Aussies, Poms, Yanks. We never have any issue with social integration. The only other major group that is missing are the middle-eastern. But there are a few working in the other department. Do we call ourselves aussies at the end of the day. Yes.

As for spousal commitments, I can't say for what the overall statistics are. But, in my work place, most are married with children, 2-3 kids. There are no scandals or rumours that I am aware of.

So morale of the story, you felt this way only because of the environment, either change the environment, or move to another environment that suits you. Mine you, if you felt that loyalty is overrated, you will enjoy being where you are now then.

Maybe I need to clarify. I am saying "Lifelong Loyalty" is outdated. Meaning stay with one company your whole life, staying loyal to Singapore your whole life, married with no divorce your whole life.

 

[Ash007]

It was my exact point in the post. If I as born in Australia instead, I would have stayed lifelong.

Maybe I need to clarify. I am saying "Lifelong Loyalty" is outdated. Meaning stay with one company your whole life, staying loyal to Singapore your whole life, married with no divorce your whole life.

 

[streetsmart73]

Everybody knows that company loyalty is outdated. Nobody stays more than 5 years in the same company. If you do, u are dumb and probably viewed as not ambitious and not mobile and less capable...etc. Likewise country loyalty is becoming outdated. Why does Sinkies wants to stay loyal whilst the gahment goes to woo FTs to come in. Face it, we are better off being FTs ourselves and start getting wooed by other countries that want and needs us. Spousal loyalty is next. Divorce rates are skyrocketing. People want to change partners to 'freshen' up their lovelife.

So it does not pay to be loyal. Rite?? Anyone got any views?

hi there


1. aiyoh!
2. just ask the 60% mah.
3. my take: you die your biz, so what's there to be loyal.
4. you can be some asset today, come tomorrow you can literally turn into a liability.
5. so what's there to be loyal again?

 

[tonychat]

Sinkies have no loyalty to their balls, that is why they lose it.

 

[soIsee]

Moving around is a lot of hassle. Loyalty is not the issue.

So what's the real issue?

Being balless?

Got no balls to stand for your rights here and got no balls to stake your claim as a FT elsewhere.

 

[blissquek]

Everybody knows that company loyalty is outdated. Nobody stays more than 5 years in the same company. If you do, u are dumb and probably viewed as not ambitious and not mobile and less capable...etc. Likewise country loyalty is becoming outdated. Why does Sinkies wants to stay loyal whilst the gahment goes to woo FTs to come in. Face it, we are better off being FTs ourselves and start getting wooed by other countries that want and needs us. Spousal loyalty is next. Divorce rates are skyrocketing. People want to change partners to 'freshen' up their lovelife.

So it does not pay to be loyal. Rite?? Anyone got any views?

Oh dear..it reminds me of the book by Alfin Toffler....Future Shock..

when i read abt the part about tissue paper...used and throw...it is frightening to know how fragile things have become.....loyalty, love, relationships.....

 

[enterprise2]

Oh dear..it reminds me of the book by Alfin Toffler....Future Shock..

when i read abt the part about tissue paper...used and throw...it is frightening to know how fragile things have become.....loyalty, love, relationships.....

When you change companies, change nationalities, change wife....maybe next you change your religion, do a total make-over and change your entire identity till you yourself not recognise yourself anymore!!

 

[halsey02]

Sinkies have no loyalty to their balls, that is why they lose it.

You damn bloody wrong on this, I have a newspaper clipping from an executive in ICI, in case you weren't born yet, ICI stands for Imperial Chemical Industries, where in the past we say, ICI paint, maybe you were still Sucking udders? Back to ICI executive, this was 1986, the clipping was from Financial Times, ( not "mah piew bo"), "There is no Loyalty in Buisness", at at time of recession.

The British had been talking about there is no loyalty working in any companies twenty over years ago..back there we could count on loyalty at work , where one join & retire at the same company, back then, we had Guthrie, UMW, Inchape, just to name a few & others. Nowadays there is no longer loyalty, no that we have no balls, times have changed...whomever pays more..that is the attraction.