Low pay sinkie security guard who used to donate to Roy got banned by Roy

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Before I end, I have this really interesting story to tell. If you go to Roy's FB page, you'll find nothing but posts by persons praising him - not a word of dissent. It would appear that everyone agrees with him and he has widespread support. Well looks can be deceiving - he's blocked anyone and everyone who disagrees with him. Question him, tell him he's wrong about something - hey presto - your comments deleted, you're blocked and to make things easier - you're PAP IB.

I even had a reader who's part of a University group that follows local politics. They are opposition leaning, and Roy wrote a series on education which is relevant to them being involved in the process itself. They realised it contained some factual errors, they duly wrote to him to point this out. They were not against him, they agreed in principle with some of the points he raised, but just happen to disagree on others. Well what did Roy do? 'Sup sup suay' - dismissed all of them as PAP IB!

And now to my story. I have a friend, he's nearing 55 and working as a security guard. Unbeknownst to me at the time, he went to donate $20 to Roy when he launched his donation drive last year. He claimed he was being sued because he had spoken out about the CPF Minimum Sum and withdrawal age. My friend himself short of sums to maintain payment for his flat and almost gonna get nothing upon reaching 55 later this year, thought - 'Hey this is a good cause, maybe if he wins or fights, I might get a large portion back.' So he donated $20 - I know it's not much, but as he later told me, 'I never donated to political causes before, and $20 was all I could afford at the time.'

With lower secondary education, he's also not Net savvy - Youtube is his favourite channel. He didn't have a FB account and wanted to follow this saga and Roy in particular, so he got his son to set up an account for him. He hardly uses it, but occasionally he'll go read what Roy and others have to say, and even more infrequently he'll offer his comments. But it was always something positive to Roy - encouraging him on.

Then sometime last month after the Amos Yee saga, he was also engrossed in that (who wasn't), so he again surfed FB a bit more often. Finally after the dreadful antics Amos did to Vincent Law and others, my friend chanced upon Roy's reflections. Now my friend is a Roy supporter, not an Amos fan (he's extremely put off by rudeness to elders) and I gather he kind of told Roy not to engage with Amos and to teach him better. And he left it at that. My friend doesn't bother to go and read replies or engage in online debates. See something, maybe comment and forget about it.

Then last week he again went on FB and looked for Roy's page to find out what's the latest. But he couldn't.find it anymore! He thought at first his FB page was faulty and a few days later asked his son why this was so? Or perhaps Roy took down his page or was forced to by the Govt. It was only then he learnt he was blocked! And all because he disagreed with Roy just once! I laughed when he told me the story, I told him, why didn't you come and ask me when you first donated? He said he didn't even know I had a blog or was commenting on the issue, moreover when and where did he bother to go to the Net for a chat etc? He said, 'I don't even use FB much, if I want to find out about someone, I would call them not look for them on FB! It's only because of this CPF thing that I asked my son to set up the account.'



All season fighter. Roy Ngerng will even brave the cold European winter to 'speak up for you.'

He's cursing his stupidity, but said it's okay, never mind that $20 is a lesson. 'Fool me once, it's okay, I won't be fooled again.' Finally he learnt that Roy was leading a cushy life, travelling the globe, actually earning $3k from TRS and the whole thing was just a tactic to garner sympathy.

Now before you accuse me of making this up, here's a challenge - say if you're a fan of Roy and the Looney Fringe, say if you've donated or agree with some the things he writes, why not try to disagree with him or advise that some of the things h's doing is wrong or silly? See how long you'll be given access to his page, see how fast you're blocked or labelled a PAP IB. That's democracy Roy and Looney Fringe style - you agree with us and whatever we do, unquestionably. You donate willingly and always. You support us, you cannot disagree or tell us what's wrong. Do so and bye bye, we don't need you anymore.
 
Those who want freedom to speak their minds should use sammyboy.com instead.
 
Da the Bestest.

In the good old days before the advent of facebook, this forum was a haven for those who wanted to sprout their wisdom. It did not matter which part of the political spectrum they stood for they knew that their posts would remain in place regardless of who they praised or tore apart.

Sadly facebook now dominates as everybody wants a slice of the internet which they feel they have control over. I've used facebook myself and I have a page right here which I muck around with.

I've used my account to challenge many of the messages at https://www.facebook.com/AAAPNZ which is a page that supposedly champions for the rights of the so called "poor" of NZ.

Instead of rebutting my points and challenging the data that I present, my messages are simply deleted on a regular basis as are others who question the content. Only those who sing the same tune are allowed to post there.

This is the behavior of an organisation who is accusing the NZ government of being undemocratic and suppressing the voice of the poor yet they display none of the qualities that they demand from the government on a daily basis.

Facebook may be a great place to keep up with the progress your distant grand daughter is making on her journey towards taking her first step and uttering her first word. However, when it comes to political debate. It fails on all fronts because the account holder retains total control over what appears on their pages.

I urge all of you to spread the word to those who want to retain their rights to express contrarian views that sammyboy.com is still the safest and most liberal place to say your piece. Post here and you can then simply post the link to your message on other sites or copy both the message and the link.

It will help drive traffic to this forum and ensure its longevity because to be honest, I'm getting really tired of keeping this site going. If the traffic remains stagnant, I take it to mean that the site is no longer serving a purpose so why should I bother.

If the traffic grows, it sends me a signal that the service is valued and it will give me impetus to keep things going for as long as I can.
 
Long story short ...you still on the job of tarnishing PAP critics. Keep trying, okay.
 
It will help drive traffic to this forum and ensure its longevity because to be honest, I'm getting really tired of keeping this site going. If the traffic remains stagnant, I take it to mean that the site is no longer serving a purpose so why should I bother.

If the traffic grows, it sends me a signal that the service is valued and it will give me impetus to keep things going for as long as I can.

KNN, really sounds like PAP tactics on HDB upgrading.
 
KNN, really sounds like PAP tactics on HDB upgrading.

Yes a similar tone but I'm not asking for anything from anyone other than to use what I am supplying FOC in the first place.

I ask for no votes in return, no taxes, no conservancy charges, no need to stroke my ego or praise my skills or be nice to my dog. All I'm asking for more people to use the damned place.
 
You lost people with your forum policies and I remember back then you stated you didn't give a damn.

Nothing to do with forum polices. It's all about the rise of social media. The forum is stagnant but it's holding it's own. Unfortunately old and active members are actually dying off and the new generation use facebook and twitter. The host himself may not have that much time left.

When the first generation of internet users signed up with an ISP, the very first thing on their minds was how to hide their identities. Some even went to the extent posting messages encrypted with PGP so that only those with keys could decode them. Everything was very covert.

The current generation proudly display themselves in full glory and shoot their mouths off without thinking about the consequences until it is too late.
 
Yes a similar tone but I'm not asking for anything from anyone other than to use what I am supplying FOC in the first place.

I ask for no votes in return, no taxes, no conservancy charges, no need to stroke my ego or praise my skills or be nice to my dog. All I'm asking for more people to use the damned place.


Bring back Scroobal, the legendary shit stirrer. The traffic will reach a bottleneck that you might need to install ERP :)
 
..no need to stroke my ego or praise my skills or be nice to my dog. All I'm asking for more people to use the damned place.
....getting really tired of keeping this site going. If the traffic remains stagnant, I take it to mean that the site is no longer serving a purpose so why should I bother. If the traffic grows, it sends me a signal that the service is valued and it will give me impetus to keep things going for as long as I can.
Succinctly put. Think we lost the "fun" bit so promising since inception 2008, what with so much angst here. Know of some vets here who got jaded and into popping by mode

Harsh reality is traffic inevitably spikes with latest hot topical news (not limited to free famous Amos cookies smell) :D
Also see your heavy hand in threads of late
 
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Scroobal has never left. :D

Sometimes special efforts have been put into cultivating the personality of a particular handle. The person behind the handle may still be around, but it's the handle who speaks.
 
Succinctly put. Think we lost the "fun" bit so promising since inception 2008, what with so much angst here. Know of some vets here who got jaded and into popping by mode

Harsh reality is traffic inevitably spikes with latest hot topical news (not limited to free famous Amos cookies smell) :D
Also see your heavy hand in threads of late

I'm sick. I can't go out because it freezing cold and I don't want to make things worse. I'm here to entertain myself. :D
 
Opposition supporters cannot take in criticism ones? Like DAT how to be good opposition?
 
Opposition supporters cannot take in criticism ones? Like DAT how to be good opposition?

The opposition is worse than the PAP when it comes to freedom of speech.
 
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