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I've been under the impression that Lim Kit Siang don't see eye to eye with Lau Lee's vision and methods, but here's what he wrote anyway. Nevertheless, I think Lau Lee should step back and let Singapore find its way forward. He's become an impediment to our REAL progress.


Lee Kuan Yew
At 84, the fire still burns!
In midst of deepening troubles, a Malaysian blogs about Singapore's leader who is nearing his 50th year (2009) in office. By Ahmad Mustapha
Jul 31, 2008

Singapore’s Minister Mentor, Lee Kuan Yew, who was Singapore’s founding father, has always been very direct in his comments. T

his was the man who outsmarted the communists in Singapore (with the innocent help of Malaya then and the willing help of the British) and who later outwitted the British and outpaced Malaysia in all spheres.

Singapore practices corrupt-free meritocracy and Malaysia affirmative action. The former attracted all the best brains and the latter chased out all the brains.

The Singapore cabinet consists of dedicated and intelligent technocrats whereas Malaysia has one the most unwieldy cabinets. Not only that, brain wise it was below par not even good for the kampong.

With that kind of composition, one that is very brainy, naturally Singapore, with no natural resources could outstrip Malaysia in every aspect of development.

Malaysia, on the other hand, was too much preoccupied with its Malayness and the illusory ‘Ketuanan Melayu’ and was also more interested in useless mega iconic development rather than real social and economic development.

Whenever Kuan Yew utters anything that deemed to be a slight on Malaysia, voices were raised admonishing him. Malaysia would never dare to face reality.

That Singapore had shown that it could survive was a slap on those who believed that Singapore would fold up once it left Malaysia .

Therefore it was natural that these doomsayers would try to rationalise their utterances to be in their favour to combat on whatever Kuan Yew commented. Its political jealousy.

Singapore achieved its development status without any fanfare. But here in Malaysia, a development that was deceptive was proclaimed as having achieved development status. It was trumpeted as an achievement that befits first world status.

This was self delusion. Malaysians are led to believe into a make believe world, a dream world. The leaders who themselves tend to believe in their own fabricated world did not realise the people were not taken in by this kind of illusion.

Lee Kuan Yew believed in calling a spade a spade. I was there in Singapore when the People’s Action Party won the elections in 1959.

He was forthright in his briefing to party members as to what was expected of them and what Singapore would face in the future.

Ideologically, I did not agree with him. We in the University of Malaya Socialist Club had a different interpretation of socialist reconstruction. But he was a pragmatist and wanted to bring development and welfare to the Singaporeans. Well! He succeeded.

Malaysia was so much embroiled in racial politics and due to the fear of losing political power, all actions taken by the main party in power was never targeted towards bringing wealth to all. Wealth was distributed to the chosen few only.

They were the cronies and the backers of the party leadership to perpetuate their own selfish ends.

Seeing the efficiency and the progress achieved by Singapore caused the Malaysian leadership to suffer from an inferiority complex. That Malaysia should suffer from this complex was of its own making.

In a recent interview, Kuan Yew said that Malaysia could have done better if only it treated its minority Chinese and Indian population fairly.

Instead they were completely marginalised and many of the best brains left the country in drove. He added that Singapore was a standing indictment to what Malaysia could have done differently. He just hit the nail right there on the head.

Malaysia recently celebrated its 50th year of independence with a bagful of uncertainties. The racial divide has become more acute.

The number of Malay graduates unemployed is on the increase. And this aspect can be very explosive. But sad to see that no positive actions have been taken to address these social ills.

Various excuses were given by Malaysian leaders why Singapore had far outstripped Malaysia in all aspects of social and economic advancement. Singapore was small, they rationalised and therefore easy to manage. Singapore was not a state but merely an island.

There was one other aspect that Malaysia practises and that is to politicise all aspects of life. All government organs and machinery were ‘UMNO-ised’. This was to ensure that the party will remain in power.

Thus there was this misconception by the instruments of government as to what national interest is and what UMNO vested interest is.

UMNO vested interest only benefited a few and not the whole nation. But due to the UMNO-isation of the various instruments of government, the country under the present administration had equated UMNO vested interest as being that of national interest.
Thus development became an avenue of making money and not for the benefit of the people. The fight against corruption took a back seat.

Transparency was put on hold. And the instruments of government took it to be of national interest to cater to the vested interest of UMNO. Enforcement of various enactments and laws was selective.

Thus a ‘palace’ in Kelang, APs cronies and close-one-eye umno MPs could exist without proper procedure. Corruption infested all govt departments, the worse is the police and lately even in the judiciary.

Singapore did not politicise its instruments of government. If ever policisation took place, it is guided by national interest. To be efficient and to be the best in the region was of paramount importance.

Thus all the elements like corruption, lackadaisical attitude towards work and other black elements, which would retard such an aim, were eliminated.

Singapore naturally had placed the right priority in it’s pursuit to achieve what is best for its people. This is the major difference between these two independent countries.

Malaysia in its various attempts to cover up its failures embarked on several diversions. It wanted its citizens to be proud that the country had the tallest twin-tower in the world, although the structure was designed and built by foreigners.

Its now a white-elephant wasting away. It achieved in sending a man into space at an exorbitant price. What for purpose? These are what the Malays of old would say “menang sorak” (hollow victories).

It should be realised that administering a country can be likened to managing a corporate entity. If the management is efficient and dedicated and know what they are doing, the company will prosper. The reverse will be if the management is poor and bad. The company will go bust.

There are five countries around this region. There is Malaysia , and then Indonesia . To the east there is the Philippines and then there is that small enclave called the Sultanate of Brunei.

All these four countries have abundance of natural resources but none can lay claim to have used all these resources to benefit the people. Poverty was rampant and independence had not brought in any significant benefits to the people.

But tiny Singapore without any resources at all managed to bring development to its citizens.

It had one of the best public MRT transport systems and airlines in the world and it is a very clean city state. Their universities, health care, ports are among the best in the world.

It is impossible to compare what Singapore has achieved to what all these four countries had so far achieved. It was actually poor management and corruption, and nothing more. Everything is done for the vested interest of the few.

Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines and the Sultanate of Brunei need good management teams. They would not be able to do this on their own steam. I would advise that they call on Kuan Yew to show them what good governance is. Why look East to Japan when it is just next door across the causeway.

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Lim Kit siang can be proud of one thing .. the DAP has changed Malaysia from a 1 party ruled country to a bi-party democracy. Singapore under the PAP, has been left behind.

Once Anwar gets rid of the bumi policies and hopefully get rid of the islamic state nonsense, Malaysia will boom.
 

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Lim Kit siang can be proud of one thing .. the DAP has changed Malaysia from a 1 party ruled country to a bi-party democracy. Singapore under the PAP, has been left behind.

Once Anwar gets rid of the bumi policies and hopefully get rid of the islamic state nonsense, Malaysia will boom.


Anwar will not be able to dismantle the Bumi policies even if he wanted to, not now anyway. It will take at least 10 years to unravel it. The Malays have been on the crutch for too long. What Umno has succeeded in doing since the party came to power was, broadly speaking, to make the Chinese work the economy while the Malays collect their commissions off the Chinese's (and Indians') industry. It's easy money for them, no need to bother about bottomline, just sign off their names and be paid their monthly director fees. Other Malays in positions (such as personal assistants, ministres dealing with relevant licences) will simply just collect bribes from Chinese businesses. Even the polis run their personal businesses along the highways, collecting RM50 from almost every motorist for speeding -- they can easily make RM 5,000 - RM 10,000 each per month manning highway speed traps.

If Anwar wants to remove the Bumi policies he will have to dig hard to help the Malays get on equal footing with the other races on economic & educational opportunities, or he will come crashing down in no time. The Bumi policies of Mahathir have helped calm Malay unrest and built some sort of peaceful co-existence to enable the country to stabilise and develop their economy, but the consequence is the entrenchment of Malay expectations and rights which can now become the source of national discordance as the non-Malays aspire for equal treatment and equal opportunities.

Anwar's got a tough job ahead, and he hasnt got the enormous machinery that Umno has had and still have to mobilise grassroot support and implement policies.
 

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The dismantling of the bumi policies will take a long time. But it has to start somewhere. Thats why Chinese people now support the DAP. And thats why some in the DAP want to kick away PAS. The Malays always think race and religion first. So now, you see how UMNO is approaching PAS in the name of Malay and Muslim unity.

Sorry to say, that UMNO is now just like PAP. Only the elites benefit. The rest of the peasants are dirt poor. The leadership may be happy with taking 30% from the Chinese businessmen, but those poor malays are not seeing any share of the wealth, and are protesting.

Anwar has no answer to this issue, as he is not a miracle worker. The chinese support him because he can break UMNO, and a weak UMNO is the start of making things better.
 

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Lim Kit siang can be proud of one thing .. the DAP has changed Malaysia from a 1 party ruled country to a bi-party democracy. Singapore under the PAP, has been left behind.

Once Anwar gets rid of the bumi policies and hopefully get rid of the islamic state nonsense, Malaysia will boom.

Anwar could get rid of the bumi policies that you talk about but only temporary. Probably the Anwar of the past. But ever since he came out of prison, I think he has changed a lot.

From the way in order to win votes, he promised the people he will bring back the fuel subsidies, I am rather appalled by how he is using this to win votes. Because fuel is a worldwide rising issue. By reducing it is the only way for the country's economy not to be crippled by subsidies.

If using such issues to win votes and to settle own personal vendetta, I don't think how the country can really move forward even if a new person takes charge.
 

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If Anwar wants to remove the Bumi policies he will have to dig hard to help the Malays get on equal footing with the other races on economic & educational opportunities, or he will come crashing down in no time.

At present not all Malays benefited from the Bumi policies. Some did and makes lots of money. Some don't and they are marginalised by their own race. That's how this group of Malays who did not benefit from the Bumi policies fall apart with UMNO and formed PKR. That's why they want reform - Reformasi. The same thing happened earlier with Tengku Razaleigh and Semangat 46. Some Malays will have no problems to see Bumi policies go away as they never gain any $$$ from it.
 

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I doubt if any person really expect politicians to keep their promises. Thats why I think many middle class people are using Anwar as just a way to express the dissatisfaction with the government.

Thats why Malaysia is transforming into a 2 party democracy, to hold the ruling party accountable or else they will throw them out of the office.

Anwar is just a person that the Chinese feel comfortable that he will whack UMNO.
 

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Actually, the bumi policies and subsidies work perfectly. The amount of Malays have grown as they can afford to have 5-8 children per family. Malaysian Chinese have 3 kids per family (and this is the most number of kids for all chinese in the world) and yet the malays have out populated them for the last 30 years.

The subsidies are the reason why these poor malays still can have 8 kids. Take away the subsidies, and their population will fall.

So you got to admit that if the real agenda for the subsidies and bumi rights was to increase the amount of malays in Malaysia, it has worked better than anyone expected.
 

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Lim Kit siang can be proud of one thing .. the DAP has changed Malaysia from a 1 party ruled country to a bi-party democracy. Singapore under the PAP, has been left behind.

The good thing about Lim Kit Siang is that he does not appear to be as "greedy" as Lee Kuan Yew. With DAP in power in Penang, Perak and Selangor, Lim Kit Siang could have asked his son to give him a "SM" or "MM" position in Penang. He did not and instead is contented to hold a simple party position as DAP Adviser.

Lee Kuan Yew on the other hand is not willing to give up the millions of dollars that come with the minister position and insisted on a SM position and later MM position. These MM and SM ministerial post is costing tax payers millions of dollars. That is pure greed and corruption.
 

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kit siang talk cock only outsiders looking in. In reality , Singapore become a hollowing out nation - cause NS is killing Sg all the locals leaving and govt desperately replace by FT who are subpar and only tempory fill the holes on our society.

SIngapore is a cheese nation full of holes and rotting inside and outside with the poisonous mouldy spreading of NS.
 

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Lee Kuan Yew on the other hand is not willing to give up the millions of dollars that come with the minister position and insisted on a SM position and later MM position. These MM and SM ministerial post is costing tax payers millions of dollars. That is pure greed and corruption.


Lau Lee simply just dont know when to stop. I really wont be surprise if his daughter-in-law vies for the presidency.

By the time Lau Lee is gone, there's going to be an equally long list of "bad" if not more, than his list of "good" achievements.
 

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Lim Guan Eng is a different breed compared to LHL. LGE has gone to jail before. He has actually debated with the Malays on a number of issues. Hence, he is more seasoned that LKY's son.

So LKS does not need to worry about his son. The same cant be said for LKY. Thats why the old man is still around, asking for a position in the government.
 

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Madmansg,

Only the people here in this forum (and the other sammyboy clones) think Singapore is going down the drain. The rest of the peasants have been brainwashed to think Singapore is doing well. So if SG people are able to be fooled, so can those up north.
 
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