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Libya: Before and after Muammar Gaddafi

Majulah

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After World War II, Libya was ceded to France and the United Kingdom, and both countries linked it administratively to their colonies in Algeria and Tunisia.

However, the U.K. favored the emergence of a monarchy controlled by Saudi Arabia and endorsed by the U.N., the Senussi dynasty, which ruled the country since its “independence” in 1951 under the monarchy of King Idris I, who kept Libya in total obscurantism while promoting British economic and military interests.

When oil reserves were discovered in 1959, the exploitation of wealth did not translate into benefits for the people. According to political analyst Thierry Meyssan, during the monarchy, the nation was mired in backwardness in education, health, housing, social security, among others.

The low literacy rates were shocking, according to Meyssan, only 250,000 inhabitants of the four million could read and write.

But it was in 1969 that the Senussi dynasty was overthrown by a group of officers led by Colonel Muammar al-Gaddafi who proclaimed true independence and removed the dominant foreign forces from the country.

One of Gaddafi’s immediate policies was to share the benefits and wealth to all Libyans.

Libya with Gaddafi​

Since Gaddafi took power, oil has been the main resource in the hands of the leader of the newly proclaimed Libyan Arab Republic. The triumph of the 1969 revolution marked a paradigm shift, moving the new government to use its oil income to boost redistributive measures among the population, generating a new model of economic and social development for the country.

According to analysts, among the measures of “economic sovereignty” which drove Gaddafi’s policies were the nationalization of various Western oil companies such as British Petroleum (BP) and the creation of the National Oil Corporation (NOC), which characterized the configuration of a more socialist model.

Throughout Gaddafi’s tenure, ambitious social programs were launched in the areas of education, health, housing, public works and subsidies for electricity and basic foodstuffs. These policies led to a substantial improvement in the living conditions of Libyans, from being one of the poorest countries in Africa in 1969 to being the continent’s leader in its Human Development Index in 2011.

In fact, the United Nations Development Programme (2010) considered Libya a high-development country in the Middle East and North Africa. This translated status meant a literacy rate of 88.4 percent, a life expectancy of 74.5 years, gender equality, among several other positive indicators.

At the national level, Gaddafi was able to deal with two central dilemmas characteristic of Libyan society, on the one hand, the difficulty of exercising control over the tribes, and, on the other, the fragmentation of society into diverse and sometimes opposite tribal and regional groups.

Gaddafi had the ability to hold together these territories with little connection to each other. It is estimated that there are about 140 tribes in the Libyan territory, each with different traditions and origins.

At the international level, Pan-Arabism should be highlighted with the confrontation opened to the United States due to the opposition that Gaddafi exerted on the influence of this country, reaching closer ties with other Arab countries to carry out common policies of rejection of Washington’s policies on the Middle East and Africa.

The Libyan leader worked to strengthen ties with neighboring countries such as Egypt, Morocco, Syria, Tunisia, Chad, among others, as well as maintaining close relations with countries like France and Russia. Gaddafi also connected with Latin American countries such as Venezuela and Cuba, which led him to cultivate an extensive network of contacts and uncomfortable influence for Europe and the U.S.

By the time of his killing, Libya had the highest GDP per capita and life expectancy on the continent. Fewer people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.

The fall of Gadaffi​

The citizen protests that began in Tunisia in December 2010 (Arab Spring) arrived a month later in neighboring Libya, although in a different way, as the mass and popular demonstrations that characterized Tunisia and Egypt were not replicated. In contrast, in Benghazi, where the anti-Gaddafi movement focused, Islamists groups predominated.

Some political analysts agree that in Libya there was never a mass movement on a national scale like the other countries, nor was there popular support to overthrow Gaddafi’s government.

However, the uprisings in Benghazi were enough for the UN Security Council and NATO to intervene on behalf of the Responsibility to Protect (Resolution 1973) and launched a bombing campaign between March and October 2011 that had a decisive impact on the assassination of Gaddafi.

According to Meyssan, NATO’s interference in the internal affairs of Libya and the overthrow of Gaddafi were not the result of a conflict between Libyans but to a long-term regional destabilization strategy for the whole group the Middle East.

Nine years after his death, residents in the chaos-wracked country’s capital have grown to miss the longtime leader as the frustrations of daily life mount.

“I hate to say it but our life was better under the previous regime,” Fayza al-Naas, a 42-year-old pharmacist told AFP in 2015, referring to Gaddafi’s rule. A sentiment shared by many Libyans, including those who opposed him at some point.

The economically and socially stable Libya under the Gaddafi versus a fragmented country, without a government, devastated by attacks, bombings, and continuous clashes, is the result of the NATO invasion in 2011. A conclusion that many regret supporting almost a decade later.
 

glockman

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Similarly, our life was better under LKY. Yes, we were like a kept woman but at least the world respected us and being sinkie meant something. With his son as pm, we became a prostitute and lost a lot of foreign respect.
 

LordElrond

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There is a reason for every dicktator who can rule for decades… usually the country is worse off after their fall
 

syed putra

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Ever since the turks lost their empire after WWI, the west agenda is to stop a pan arab nation from forming from morocco to iraq.
The arabs tried but failed. Thats why you can see similarities in the flags of egypt, yemen, syria and iraq.tjese were the four cou tries that wanted to unite but failed.
In territories that was mandated to british, they created monarchies and those mandated to french became republics.
 

mojito

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A cautionary tale for those of you who place your bets on dodgy oppie troublemakers like WP. :unsure:
 

saynotomsm

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Someday people will get to know the truth that the bad guys are actually good guys.
 

Majulah

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A cautionary tale for those of you who place your bets on dodgy oppie troublemakers like WP. :unsure:

the person we vote for should be someone who is genuinely concern with the welfare of the citizens , ie someone like Gaddafi .,
certainly not someone like filipino Ferdinand marcos or north korea 'supreme' leader who only worry is how to perpetuate his family rule.

when a leader has no ball to stand up against other , yield to their demand , even though there are abundant evidence to show his action
is contrary to the well being of the citizens , would you still vote for this person ?
the leader is forcing you to vaxx because he has to obey the western master , and he is well aware that the vaccine causes damage to the body ,
he knows that promoting strong natural immunity could greatly reduce the chance of being infected , that there are medicine that cure ,
yet he ignored all these but promoted what his western master ordered. then why not vote in the opposition ? we going to be maimed or killed
by the vaccine anyway
 

ChristJohnny

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Narratives :

You are born "not so smart", but you have inherit a fortune from your rich daddy. Since you are "not so smart", you start spending more than you earned. At least you not are affected as the fortune you inherited is substantial.

As you are "not so smart", you tends to also have "not so smart" children. Obviously your children will inherit your wealth once you are gone. Generation after generation, the wealth get smaller and smaller as "not so smart" generation does not able to sustain his wealth. One fine day when they realized that their bank has no more money, they start to panic and start crying. Who did they blame? Everyone but themselves.

Example are : Libya (as mentioned in this thread), Venezuela, Iran etc .... all of them have one thing in common .... "not so smart" countries.

Race and IQ


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mojito

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the person we vote for should be someone who is genuinely concern with the welfare of the citizens , ie someone like Gaddafi .,
certainly not someone like filipino Ferdinand marcos or north korea 'supreme' leader who only worry is how to perpetuate his family rule.

when a leader has no ball to stand up against other , yield to their demand , even though there are abundant evidence to show his action
is contrary to the well being of the citizens , would you still vote for this person ?
the leader is forcing you to vaxx because he has to obey the western master , and he is well aware that the vaccine causes damage to the body ,
he knows that promoting strong natural immunity could greatly reduce the chance of being infected , that there are medicine that cure ,
yet he ignored all these but promoted what his western master ordered. then why not vote in the opposition ? we going to be maimed or killed
by the vaccine anyway
Be cause "oppies" like WP would have done the same thing any way. Or worse! :unsure:
 

syed putra

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I believe under gadafi, libyans had free medical and education. If both are not available locally, they will fly patient or student Overseas for treatment or studies.
Plus you get a home once you got married.
 

Majulah

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Be cause "oppies" like WP would have done the same thing any way. Or worse! :unsure:
maybe so. but at least we have a choice and it may turn out to be correct one. the 'opposition' leader may dare to tell the western master to go fly kite.
like Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte
 

syed putra

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maybe so. but at least we have a choice and it may turn out to be correct one. the 'opposition' leader may dare to tell the western master to go fly kite.
like Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte
Philippinos are different. They got US base protections which are paid by longnterm lease and their politicians voted and told them to leave. Now they sre scrambling to get them back.
 

mojito

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maybe so. but at least we have a choice and it may turn out to be correct one. the 'opposition' leader may dare to tell the western master to go fly kite.
like Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte
Don't be stupid. What benefits do we get for such foolish bravado? 230 till now not even got his loans approved by Xi. Be ware of chinks bearing gifts. :cautious:
 

Majulah

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ah sam forum certainly got many members with low IQ. i gave an example of head of state daring to tell the western crooks off in discussing about
country that dared to opposed the evil cabal.
yet it changed into a discussion about Philippine President , totally out of context.
 
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