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Lawyer suggests that most Sinkees r baffoons/barbarians who cannot handle PMD safely on roads/ pavem

bic_cherry

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Lawyer suggests that most Sinkees r dotards/baffoons who cannot handle PMD safely on roads/ pavements.

I think that this suggests that the ENTIRE NS and EDUCATION SYSTEM IS A TOTAL FAILURE ...by their conduct, these Singaporeans seemed unschooled and even if they had completed NS, are certainly unfit to handle guns (arguably more complex and lethal than a bicycle)... if pedestrians (people with certificates from degree mills) cannot be considerate and allow faster moving users to overtake on the right and PMD users cannot handle simple mobility devices and overtake pedestrians without "making physical contact*" in the process.

Seems like the invention of PMDs, first bicycles and then e-scooters has revealed to the world how really stupid, individualistic, self-serving and anti-social Singaporeans really are.

What was primarily invented and introduced as a modern, healthy and environmentally-friendly form of personal mobility tool has now morphed into a turf battle and a source of social conflict in a barbaric, uncivilized 3rd world island state.

Public transport users are jealous of PMD users who travel FOC whilst motor vehicle owners are upset at having to keep left pn shared paths when they have always travelled on the right lane (or in any lane) when chauffeured or behind the wheel of their big expensive cars. Maids and housewives protest that they no longer have right to walk zigzag and sideways according to their favoured sun shaded patches of pavement which shift from west to east according to the hour of day.

At this rate, Singapore is set to regress back to the state of being a pig farm/ fishing village or worse, a pirate infested island once more.

*: "making physical contact" is the euphemism for 'collision' that LTA used when 2 SMRT trains collided at Joo Koon MRT station resulting in 27passengers being sent with injuries to hospital.
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Short detention order being considered for e-scooter rider who injured pedestrian

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Madam Ang Liu Kiow (above) was left in a coma for a month after she was hit by e-scooter rider Nicholas Ting Nai Jie (left) in 2016. The 18-year-old, who was riding in a negligent manner on a footpath in Pasir Ris, had his sentencing deferred to July
Madam Ang Liu Kiow (above) was left in a coma for a month after she was hit by e-scooter rider Nicholas Ting Nai Jie in 2016. The 18-year-old, who was riding in a negligent manner on a footpath in Pasir Ris, had his sentencing deferred to July 17 after the judge called for a report to assess his suitability for a community service order.ST PHOTO: WONG KWAI CHOW
PUBLISHEDJUN 15, 2018, 5:00 AM SGT

Sentencing deferred for teen who caused grievous hurt to woman
Shaffiq Idris Alkhatib
A district judge said yesterday that a short detention order would be a suitable sentence for an electric scooter rider who hit a pedestrian, causing her severe brain injuries.

However, District Judge Eddy Tham deferred the sentencing of 18-year-old Nicholas Ting Nai Jie to July 17 after he called for a report to assess the teenager's suitability for a community service order.

If given a short detention order, the polytechnic student will have to serve a brief stint of up to two weeks behind bars but will not have a criminal record after he is released.


Offenders given a community service order have to perform supervised community service for a given period of time.

The teenager pleaded guilty on Wednesday to causing grievous hurt to housewife Ang Liu Kiow while riding his e-scooter in a negligent manner on a footpath in Pasir Ris Drive 1 on Sept 17, 2016.

The 55-year-old mother of three was left in a coma for a month.

Her husband told The Straits Times in a subsequent interview that his wife could no longer remember the past or express herself properly.

On the day of the incident, Ting had his girlfriend with him when they made their way to Pasir Ris East Community Club - ignoring the warning in the e-scooter's instruction manual against riding with a pillion rider.

Ting had not been keeping a proper lookout and was travelling at about 15kmh, failing to slow down or sound his horn even though pedestrians were in the vicinity, the court heard.

When Madam Ang stepped onto the footpath in front of a bus stop, Ting applied the brakes but it was too late.

The e-scooter knocked into the housewife and she hit her head on the ground.

An ambulance took her to Changi General Hospital, where she was found to be bleeding in her brain.

Ting's lawyer, Mr Peter Keith Fernando, told the court yesterday that his client is remorseful and hopes Madam Ang's condition will improve.

Mr Fernando added: "Our Government should take a serious view of the dangers caused by irresponsible PMD (personal mobility device) users and the injuries that may result, as this case amply demonstrates.

"As a longstanding member of our criminal justice system, I respectfully recommend to our Government a total ban on the use of PMDs on our roads and pavements."


A version of this article appeared in the print edition of The Straits Times on June 15, 2018, with the headline 'Short detention order being considered for e-scooter rider'. Print Edition | Subscribe

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...on-order-being-considered-for-e-scooter-rider
 
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bic_cherry

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minimalistism(HWZ) said:
Ban la. Such device only can work in country like Japan that ppl are considerate and cultured. $inkie majority make up of animals. Give them use is dangerous

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Actually, majority of animals in nature are very peaceful and considerate to one another and don't impose unnecessarily on others.

But the species of homosapien in Singapore is very mischievous, malicious and dangerous, like to damage other's ricebowl and steal common property for nefarious, underhand use to fix their competitors (use state funds to buy votes, deployment of AGC to endorse PAP politicians campaigning inside the poling station on poling day etc).

fixing opposition parties; actually just creating an authoritarian, monolithic political state, a hermit kingdom under a despotic monach...
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(YouTube; LHL: "fix the opposition")
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(https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2014/02/03/inside-outside-upside-down/)


Relationship between different shared path users is like affairs in Singapore parliament, some r always unaccepted, outcast, despised, bullied and repeatedly made to apologize.

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pict source: https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/82ddsl/gst_debate_in_a_nutshell/
 

bic_cherry

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talents(sgfuck) said:
but many youths no control
have to ban

Maybe for youths, should limit weight, speed/ e-scooter power output to 10kph. For those too fat/heavy, den should recommend to ride bicycle to exercise (dockless bicycle companies like Mobike, oFo should have an affordable youth plan for teenagers to rent bikes).

I think most adults are able to use PMD safely, oki, not all Singaporeans qualify i guess. But adults can be sued for $$$ payment for restitution for any damages caused and also receive full penalty like jail and fine and thus will always be perhaps more cautious.
 

bic_cherry

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gysiang(HWZ) said:
Just admit our current traffic laws are too outdated and was disrupted by PMD. Work on how to coexist together.
Just a random thought and it DOES NOT condone PMD hitting pedestrians.

However, one indisputable fact is that today, many Singaporeans are growing very soft in terms of their physical fitness/ health (e.g. 30yrs old with heart attack / stroke).

So many don't exercise, are obsessed with delicious food, sedentary lifestyle, fail IPPT etc; we have sky high rates of diabetes which results in poor eyesight, feet numbness, poor blood circulation and ultimately dialysis and foot amputations...

Means that even if there is no physical contact with the PMD, just the hot sun alone/ tiny gust of wind from passing PMD may cause a fall with dire consequences (avoidable high mortality from strokes, cancers, heart disease, diabetes, osteoporosis killed many Singaporeans long before the first e-scooter appeared). Yet many Singaporeans persist to live in their own world, walking zigzag on foot path with the shadows of trees determining their route path.

I must enquire from the young girl knocked down @Yishun by motorcycle what fitness lifestyle she upkeeps.

Video of accident shows her doing a 360deg somersault and picking herself up even before the motorcyclist could pick himself up:


If only everyone could survive bumps from motorcycles this well, the issue of PMDs would be a piece of cake.

As the following gif shows, perhaps some proper physical fitness training can make all Singaporeans more agile, disciplined, alert and able to withstand minor scrapes and bumps in life:
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sauce: https://aminoapps.com/c/wrestling/p...ummerslam-2017/X7Hg_ujLGYwQ3NrMvzqveMaQY3Q3pl
 

eatshitndie

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sinkies have never evolved out of their uncouth, filthy and obtuse chink coolie and peasant genetic roots. einstein is right. if he could predict what goes on in the universe he could also predict what goes wrong with the chink gene pool.
 

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actually i have a simple solution........allow escooters ebikes to ride on roads as long as they adhere to the speed limit of 25km/h and keep to the leftmost and respect all traffic rules........

limit the speed of escooters on pavements to 10 to 12km/h.....this will ensure escooter riders slow down and have sufficient ample time to react to traffic conditions and brake more quickly to reduce collision injury.
 

eatshitndie

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actually i have a simple solution........allow escooters ebikes to ride on roads as long as they adhere to the speed limit of 25km/h and keep to the leftmost and respect all traffic rules........

limit the speed of escooters on pavements to 10 to 12km/h.....this will ensure escooter riders slow down and have sufficient ample time to react to traffic conditions and brake more quickly to reduce collision injury.
do you seriously think these genetic defects will comply with speed limits?
 

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no diff lah, just that pedestrians will get knock down when they cross road tat's all
 

syed putra

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Who pays the medical bill in this kind of situation? Surely the pedestrian have the right to claim insurance from e bikers. Not fair of she must claim her own insurance or pay her own bill.
 

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Just a random thought and it DOES NOT condone PMD hitting pedestrians.

However, one indisputable fact is that today, many Singaporeans are growing very soft in terms of their physical fitness/ health (e.g. 30yrs old with heart attack / stroke).

So many don't exercise, are obsessed with delicious food, sedentary lifestyle, fail IPPT etc; we have sky high rates of diabetes which results in poor eyesight, feet numbness, poor blood circulation and ultimately dialysis

I must enquire from the young girl knocked down @Yishun by motorcycle what fitness lifestyle she upkeeps.

Video of accident shows her doing a 360deg somersault and picking herself up even before the motorcyclist could pick himself up:

This young girl dunno how to cross the road after decades of PAP jaywalking rule.
And motorbikes should slow down when cars are stuck in a jam. Cannot go at the normal speed. Because tendency for cars to change lanes, people crossing the road and somebody opening the car door to walk instead.
 

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sinkies are just way too selfish to make way for others or to allow others to go first. they just like to hog the path and think the world owes them a living
 

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Lawyer suggests that most Sinkees r dotards/baffoons who cannot handle PMD safely on roads/ pavements.


ST_20180615_XSQTING_4061822.jpg

Madam Ang Liu Kiow (above) was left in a coma for a month after she was hit by e-scooter rider Nicholas Ting Nai Jie (left) in 2016. The 18-year-old, who was riding in a negligent manner on a footpath in Pasir Ris, had his sentencing deferred to July

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...on-order-being-considered-for-e-scooter-rider

I personally think this fuckface ah beng should be caned
 

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Who pays the medical bill in this kind of situation? Surely the pedestrian have the right to claim insurance from e bikers. Not fair of she must claim her own insurance or pay her own bill.
all pedestrains n escootists must b road tax and insurance.
 

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charliebrown(HWZ) said:
No need to ban lah. Cannot stereotype all pmd r bad. Just send those offender to jail + 6 stroke of e cane. See who dare to commit.

PAP gahmen will not do that because court has institutionalised DOUBLE STANDARDS for death caused by motor vehicle driver (as opposed to other causes like gang fighting, robbery, assault using weapons). Current mkt rate punishment for causing death by almost deliberately ramming down pedestrians (using car as weapon) is a very lenient 6weeks jail only (for ex-school principal).

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Kwok Kah Kuoy, 71, was sentenced to six weeks' jail and banned from driving for six years. ST PHOTO: WONG KWAI CHOW
https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...g-after-jailing-retired-school-principal-over

A PMD is like 1% the weight of a motorcar or less, so even if judge wanted to be strict with the PMD user who caused fatality, his hands are tied because of his obvious leniency to the motorcar driver who almost deliberately rammed down a senior citizen pedestrian like a bowling pin.

Don't even speak of caning, it has never happened to motor vehicle drivers, no reason for it to happen to PMD users by logical extension either.
 

frenchbriefs

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do you seriously think these genetic defects will comply with speed limits?

obviously we ramp up enforcement efforts initially.....deploy more traffic and undercover enforcement officers around the island with speed guns and radar....anyone caught exceeding the speed limit by more than 5km'h will be fined $300,subsequent offences face heavier fines and possibly jail time.

once number of arrests start rising and the public knows the government means business,they will probably start toning it down a bit.
 

KNNBPCB

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sinkies are just way too selfish to make way for others or to allow others to go first. they just like to hog the path and think the world owes them a living

There is a lack of graciousness among sinkies. Wooden Goh noted this when he was PM, but he couldn't do anything about it. :p
 

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Sinkies really useless and hopeless. Notorious bad drivers who don’t give way as well.

The trick to punish bastards who don’t give way is to go behind them and tailgate. Horn them all the way for at least 1 min. Teach them a lesson for not giving way to u.
 
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