His prophecy on Capitalism return to haunt us now.

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He is the most misunderstood man with great ideas.

We threw out the baby with the bath water when we reject his ideas on communism, but fail to take heel of his warnings on capitalism.

See this BBC documentary and decide for yourself.

Masters Of Money - Part 3 - Karl Marx

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Karl Marx praise Capitalism,

"The drive for profits can achieve incredble things and push human endeavours."

yet he also criticise Capitalism for its chase for constant growth, so much so that it creates its own downfall.


During his days, he saw workers were treated like slaves, so much so that in the great European cities, the workers do not live more than 40yo. Hene his fight for the workers.

The rest is history.


We need to find a Balance somewhere. These days, it is the blind leading the blind while we search for the Balance.
 
Karl Marx praise Capitalism,

"The drive for profits can achieve incredble things and push human endeavours."

yet he also criticise Capitalism for its chase for constant growth, so much so that it creates its own downfall.


During his days, he saw workers were treated like slaves, so much so that in the great European cities, the workers do not live more than 40yo. Hene his fight for the workers.

The rest is history.


We need to find a Balance somewhere. These days, it is the blind leading the blind while we search for the Balance.

You nailed it. Balance is the key. Singapore's situation is highly imbalanced in favor of big businesses and capitalists.
 
Yes, capitalism is good if people drivers are not so much greedy.
Good people will make things good for society.

In S'pore, we did have good people in 1st generation, where many riches and poor joined hands to build this nation.
Now, we have people in the policy making bodies looking after their own ... ...

Since the pay scale in the Gov. sector raised to beyond market rate, there become "yes men" in many agencies who dare not to fight or implement things for good cause, but to comply with Gov./ leaders.
Simple logic is that: -
If a company paid me $1 as per market rate, then I will fight and leave if I do not like the Company way of doing things.
However, when I were paid $2-3 which is much more than the market rate (here $1 value), who dare to leave this Company regardless of whether it is against my will or doing evil things.
If I leave, I will earn only $1 outside market (instead of $2-3 paid by this Company).

We can see few MPs and Ministers who were outspoken, always speak about people and fight against unfair causes before attaining their status, but they become compliant men later on.
Evil world of money and titles buys loyalty of few good men...
Fortunately, S'pore do have many good men (women) who did maintain fair and fight for 'pore good.


Karl Marx praise Capitalism,

"The drive for profits can achieve incredble things and push human endeavours."

yet he also criticise Capitalism for its chase for constant growth, so much so that it creates its own downfall.


During his days, he saw workers were treated like slaves, so much so that in the great European cities, the workers do not live more than 40yo. Hene his fight for the workers.

The rest is history.


We need to find a Balance somewhere. These days, it is the blind leading the blind while we search for the Balance.
 
You nailed it. Balance is the key. Singapore's situation is highly imbalanced in favor of big businesses and capitalists.

The challenge for capitalism is how to control the greed of business. If those who work for a wage can't earn enough to survive or live a decent existent, social unrest will break out and aggregate demand will fall. When people are not buying, business fail. A reset of the system will be inevitable.
 
The challenge for capitalism is how to control the greed of business. If those who work for a wage can't earn enough to survive or live a decent existent, social unrest will break out and aggregate demand will fall. When people are not buying, business fail. A reset of the system will be inevitable.
Capitalism with a functioning democracy may be the least bad solution.

We see china turning to capitalism without democracy three decades ago and look at how unstable and corrupt the system is today.

Singapore have the luck of a benevolent first generation govt that ran capitalism with a heart, and everyone benefited. Unfortunately, the subsequent generation of leaders lost their compassion and went for extreme capitalism without properly studying history.
 
You nailed it. Balance is the key. Singapore's situation is highly imbalanced in favor of big businesses and capitalists.

Karl marx is so right. We will never have balance. The government itself is the big business and capitalist, and you and i and many others know as much. The situation is the same almost everywhere in the world. Greed is ingrained in humans.

Just too bad for the rest of us that he got the problems nailed on but couldnt give us the solution.
 
It is interesting to note that Karl Marx had never suggested an alternative to Capitalism, perhaps because he himself was living a Capitalist life in exile in London.
 
Hi Neddy,
was watching this other day on SBS as well. Its a very intriguing documentary. Check out the other parts, Hayek and Keynes. I think it ended well with Marxs A lot of people keep thinking that Marxs is about communism, but in actual fact he is just an economist that foresaw the perils of capitalism.
 
Hi Neddy,
was watching this other day on SBS as well. Its a very intriguing documentary. Check out the other parts, Hayek and Keynes. I think it ended well with Marxs A lot of people keep thinking that Marxs is about communism, but in actual fact he is just an economist that foresaw the perils of capitalism.

Thanks. I will watch and see if BBC is bias against Keynes and Hayek as well.

Marxism has been mis-used by communists in the past. Even PAP has not spared Marx, having used it against social workers & later the Roman Catholics. We now know that what the PAP did were wrong.

Marx did mentioned in a translated book about what happened if workers lost their purchasing power, it was a downward spiral from there on, leading to less demand for work, and less jobs ..........


People talk of welfare creep, but not of the rich greed money grab.

If you read my post on US income inequality, it is not difficult to see from the accompanying video on how badly the middle class is doing. If we cannot push the poverty line away from workers, it becomes a war-cry for welfare!
The last time this sort of inequalities thing happened in the 1930s, there were social instability and war, with extremists (eg Hitler) in charge.
 
Nothing to do with greed. Many ideas are intended to be good but with too many crooks/hands it spoils the food/ market economy.

what the world need now is another great war to reduce population and is like a bush fire sweeping across the land and then re-grow again.



The challenge for capitalism is how to control the greed of business. If those who work for a wage can't earn enough to survive or live a decent existent, social unrest will break out and aggregate demand will fall. When people are not buying, business fail. A reset of the system will be inevitable.
 
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Karl Marx is a great man,but first,he ingored that fact that NOT all people in current world worship God,his theory works beautifully when God is in the heart of everyone,but alas,we are all sinners,so his followers are all failures,some VERY BIG TIME FAILURES.
 
I don't believe that capitalism is evil per say. In the last two hundred years, homo sapiens have the biggest increase in standard of living. Life expectancy and income went up significantly regardless of which part of the world you live in and we have to thank capitalism and the market economy for that.

Look at the video lecture below by Hans Rosling

[video=youtube;jbkSRLYSojo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo[/video]

It is uncontrolled capitalism that is the problem.
 
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