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Hey S'porean, would you do these jobs?

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WHEN entrepreneur Adam Khoo wrote a blog entry titled "The Expats Will Rule Singapore", he did not expect the flurry of hate mail that followed. Mr Khoo, 35, co-founder and executive chairman of Adam Khoo Learning Technologies Group, had described how, when he advertised to hire a marketing executive, more than 60 per cent of applicants were foreigners.

He wrote that some of the foreigners had master's degrees and were willing to work for less than $2,000 a month, compared to local fresh graduates who asked for at least $2,500. In Mr Khoo's blog post, he wrote: "They (foreigners) know that if they can come in and learn and work hard, they will eventually climb up and earn a lot more.

"They are willing to invest in themselves, pay the price for future rewards. Sometimes I wonder how some of the locals are going to compete with this." The blog post, written on 16 Dec last year, spurred at least 20 netizens to post angry comments on his blog. One netizen wrote: "Adam, you're a local who hires cheap FTs (foreign talent) and then keeps the savings for yourself." Mr Khoo's blog post was also copied and flamed on forums like fuckwarezone.com.sg and sgforums.com.


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</td> </tr> <tr> <td>"I meant that foreigners are less picky and more hardworking than locals... It doesn't mean that I prefer hiring foreigners to locals." - Entrepreneur Adam Khoo explaining what he meant in his blog post "The Expats Will Rule Singapore"</td> </tr> </tbody></table> But Mr Khoo explained, in an interview with The New Paper on Sunday, that his words were taken out of context. The father of two young girls said that he felt foreigners were less picky than locals, and he was worried about how his daughters and other young Singaporeans would be able to compete with them in future. He added that it didn't mean he preferred hiring foreigners. Mr Khoo said that his office here has about 90 staff and only three are foreigners. He said: "I'd still pay a local more than a foreigner if the local is able to generate more value for my company." Mr Khoo said that when Law Minister K Shanmugam said at a dialogue with Yew Tee residents last Sunday that foreign workers were not stealing jobs from Singaporeans, but were really doing jobs shunned by Singaporeans, it struck a chord with him.

He said: "I understand this (foreign workers here) is a sensitive issue so some people are upset. It's no point getting angry because nothing will come out of it." While Mr Khoo has no difficulty hiring Singaporeans, employers in other sectors lament the reluctance of Singaporeans to take up certain jobs. Restaurateur Eldwin Chua feels bad about hiring foreigners as chefs and waiting staff.

But the owner of the Paradise Group of restaurants claims he has no choice - his attempts to hire and retain Singaporean staff have mostly failed. The Paradise Group pays local waiting staff $1,500 to $1,600 a month, compared to $1,200 to $1,600 for foreigners, depending on their experience. Mr Chua said: "I offer higher salary to locals because I'm encouraging them to take up the jobs. "Singaporeans complain so much about Chinese nationals working as waiters and waitresses.

"But do they know that when locals take up the jobs, many of them turn up for just two days before quitting, because they can't take the long hours of standing?" The Paradise Group has 200 waiters and waitresses in its eight restaurants, and 90 per cent are either permanent residents or foreigners from China and Malaysia. Last Monday, SBS Transit announced it would increase salaries of new bus captains to $1,375 a month, up from the current $1,196, in an attempt to recruit more Singaporeans.

Together with other allowances, they can earn more than $1,900 a month in their first year of employment. SBS Transit has 5,500 bus captains, of which only 38 per cent are Singaporeans. Its executive director, Mr Gan Juay Kiat said: "Over the years, we've seen fewer and fewer Singaporeans join us as bus captains." Many Singaporeans also do not wish to work as cleaners, seeing it as a "dirty" job, said Mr Steven Kunasegaran, owner of L & J Maintenance.

How much to wash toilets?
Mr Kunasegaran, who has been in business for 16 years, said: "I advertise for cleaners in the papers but when Singaporean applicants call up, they ask about the salary and whether they need to wash the toilets. "Of course toilets have to be cleaned. And when I say so, they never contact me again." The Employment & Employability Institute (e2i), the National Trades Union Congress' one-stop job-matching and training centre, echoed the employers' sentiments.

Its spokesman said jobs that have few Singaporean takers are cleaners, low-end manufacturing production operators, low-end retail assistants and food & beverage service staff. She said: "Based on today's labour market situation, any job which pays $800 to $900 a month, requires workers to perform shift and weekend duties, and travel to far corners of Singapore will have a low take-up, if at all. "This is simply because they no longer reflect the market and workers have better alternatives."

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That's socialist thinking. In a capitalist economy like ours, only those who are willing to work hard will get their reward.

Your argument is doing grave injustice to the common man or woman out there who is enterprising, hardworking and saving their hard-earned $$$ for a better future.

There are SO MANY EXAMPLES in Singapore who have succeeded without the characteristics that many come to associate with success in Singapore. Education, scholarship, etc. are useful, but nothing beats the human will to survive and search for opportunities to earn that $$$.

That is a Economic Fact.

Br. E.F.
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top;" align="left">Posted by: EconomicFact at Wed Jan 27 10:48:25 SGT 2010
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Now you're saying that scholars fix the pay for jobs that Singaporeans supposedly don't want? Don't do that , because that's NOT TRUE. Only business owners fix salaries, not the government.

You can have a business owner who is willing to pay $2.5K for a cleaner who is supposed do the best cleaning job in Singapore. But operating costs go up and since the cleaner is doing a job which doesn't generate additional $$$ (i.e. cost centre), the business owner will have to recover the cost by charging customers more. For example, charging Starbucks prices for a normal kopi.

So, are you willing to pay more for better (hopefully) service from a Singaporean brother or sister, Ah Mah or Ah Kong? If you are, you can bring your spending to places where they employ these people.

Stop .....
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top;" align="left">Posted by: EconomicFact at Wed Jan 27 10:40:59 SGT 2010


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</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top;" align="left">Posted by: singaparadise at Wed Jan 27 10:33:52 SGT 2010


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Mr Kani na koo sak garam..should ask himself, if he is a SINkingporean, would he want to wash toliets also?. Why are we sitting around getting bashed around by these Kani..just like one resturant owner during 1997 bashed us for not taking up jobs...

It is mostly the employer, refusal to employ SINkingporeans, for a variety of reasons, we already know..

And SINkingporeans...are paid so little, that they can not even survive on that pay, in their own coluntry....

Once again...this kind of kanena....is surfacing again with the shitty times plus the MIW's..insulting us..over, over, over again...

Just mention this to this Ah neh...the can emly his thambis from India..he will shut up immediately..and say..."four legs good"!!
 
They say the way you pose for a photo says alot about a persons character.

Look at the fuck-faced Adam Khoo stance. oblivious to the fact that he's "excreting" arrogance. I didnt even bother to read all his text. Its call social experience :D

peeps like them are monstrous fuckers disguising as some smart ass. hes got MLM written all over his face.
 
They say the way you pose for a photo says alot about a persons character.

He's a winner. He has a right to feel proud of his achievements.

It would appear that the "Tall Poppy Syndrome" is alive and well in Sinkieland. :rolleyes:
 
He wrote that some of the foreigners had master's degrees

>>> Master degree from which paper mill?
 
It's no point getting angry because nothing will come out of it."

=> Agreed. Sporns should vote wisely in the cumming GE if they want something to come out of it.
 
But do they know that when locals take up the jobs, many of them turn up for just two days before quitting, because they can't take the long hours of standing?"

=> Cos despite the long hours of standing, Sporns know that they can't even feed their families with this kind of pay. To the FTrash, these long hours of standing are worth it cos they know they can live like kings/queens in their homeland after they've made enuff.
 
"Over the years, we've seen fewer and fewer Singaporeans join us as bus captains." Many Singaporeans also do not wish to work as cleaners, seeing it as a "dirty" job, said Mr Steven Kunasegaran, owner of L & J Maintenance.

=> How has the REAL INFLATION been like compared with the stagnant pay for workers? Of course, the PAPee Traitors are rewarding themselves to the moon. How will they understand unless they are being pulled down from their pedestal in the cumming elections?
 
He's a winner. He has a right to feel proud of his achievements.

It would appear that the "Tall Poppy Syndrome" is alive and well in Sinkieland. :rolleyes:

Ugly people have no right to feel/look arrogant.

Beneath the veneer of their capitalistic acquired wealth they still feel insecure, not knowing if they wife or gf will leave them for studs like us.

Admit it. Its true.
 
Adam Khoo sells books that teach u how to get rich....but when u think about it....he is getting rich from selling the books to u right? But of cos, cannot say so in his book la! :p
 
Adam Khoo just do wat the masters told him.....

Cheaper, Better & Faster employees......


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