Serious Gahmen Paid $7 Billion To SMRT And SBS For Bus Services! Huat Ah! Buy! Buy!

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SINGAPORE - The Land Transport Authority (LTA) has reached a multi-billion-dollar agreement with SBS Transit and SMRT Buses to move their operations over to the new government bus contracting model.

The transition will take effect from Sept 1, and the LTA said on Thursday (Aug 11) there will be 11 bus packages under the model.

SBS Transit operates eight of the packages with 196 bus services, and SMRT Buses operates three with 77.
The packages have an operating tenure of between two and 10 years.

When they expire, each will be put up for competitive tendering - similar to the Bulim and Loyang route parcels were recently.

The LTA said this phased approach to competitive tendering minimises risk of service disruption for commuters and allows LTA to refine the management of contracts, as well as the tendering and handover processes.

The packages are of varying sizes, and have different compositions of bus services with different route lengths. The estimated total contract fees are $5.3 billion for SBS Transit, and $1.9 billion for SMRT Buses.

These contract sums were reached after negotiations with the two operators.


http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/government-pays-7b-for-sbst-smrt-bus-route-contracts
 
Its a serious concern for scholars and generals who previously found roles in GLCs. I wonder if the Govt will now hive off and or outsource some civil core activities to look after these scholars and generals when they leave pubic service.
 
Chap. Iirc a now of new buses were already paid for by lta so why pay for smthg that you paid? Shook of overpaying?
 
Its a serious concern for scholars and generals who previously found roles in GLCs. I wonder if the Govt will now hive off and or outsource some civil core activities to look after these scholars and generals when they leave pubic service.

I am concerned too. My kids are doing very well in school and like any good parent, I hope for them to have career paths as successful as these generals.
 
I am concerned too. My kids are doing very well in school and like any good parent, I hope for them to have career paths as successful as these generals.

just send him over. i'll teach him to suck my dick once he get hold of it, he will b on the way to be the general. but pls get his arse clean up first. that's the first instalment.
 
I am concerned too. My kids are doing very well in school and like any good parent, I hope for them to have career paths as successful as these generals.

I thought you big time businessman mah ...pass on your empire to them lah.
 
Can some expert translate this information to layman term ?
 
Can some expert translate t0his information to layman term ?

Ok I am no expert. But I will try to explain this to you.

First off, this is a scam to fleece the taxpayer. The main beneficiary of this is SMRT as I believe that SBS Transit never requested the change from the currrent model to the new one.

Currently, the model being used is the Bus Service Operating License Model (BSOL). Basically, LTA gives SBS Transit and SMRT a license to operate bus lines to service specific areas for a certain number of years. SBS and SMRT then buy the buses, operate and maintain them, build the infrastructure and depot to service them and replace the buses as needed. Together, they have about 4000 buses. SBS's main business is buslines, and SMRT's main business is rail, owning about 35% of the 4000 buses. But SMRT has been complaining to LTA for a long time that they cannot make money from the bus lines, and the cost of fuel and maintaining them has been too much. Funny that this argument was not put forth by SBS. LTA cannot apply the new model just to SMRT as it would be perceived as favouritism. Operations from the bus lines weigh down the profitability of SMRT and hence the potential that Temasek can receive in dividends. In addition, SMRT threatened the LTA by saying since they are losing money from bus operations, they cannot open enough new lines to service new areas, as it will be unprofitable to run those lines. Not withstanding that LTA can sue and suspend their license for not doing this. LTA Can easily threaten them back by saying they will revoke all their licenses including the rail license if they don't do a good job of putting up new bus lines, in part, forcing SMRT to subsidize bus operations from their profitable rail side. Of course, this will never happen as one hand masturbates the other in the PAP universe.

SMRT (read Temasek) then pressured LTA (Led by a retired fucking ex scholar Admiral) to go into the bus contracting model (BCM). Under the BCM, LTA will now own all the buses and all the depots and be responsible for maintaining, and servicing them. In other words they will incur all the costs that SMRT said was already too high. Why the tax payer should do this, I have no idea.

Under the BCM, LTA is suppose to buy the buses from SMRT and SBS transit. Instead, what LTA did was to lease the buses back from the 2 companies and pay them a standby fee equivalent to the book value of each bus. LTA claims that doing This is equivalent to buying the buses at net book value. I say that this is bullshit. The reason its bullshit is that in the real world, the value of heavily use public buses depreciate rapidly, and exponentially. Maybe losing as much as 20% in value in the first year, and being worth maybe 50% only after 3 years and maybe 10% after year 5 and 500K km on them. By paying book value, they are paying an accounting number, which is a linear decline. I give you the following examples:

Suppose a new bus costs $1,500,000 in present day value'
Assume bus is depreciated for book value purposes at 10% a year, making it fully depreciated 10 years from initial purchase.

1 year old bus with 100,000 km will have a market value of .8 X 1.5 million = $1.2 million

The book value will say this bus is worth .9 X 1.5 million = $1.35 million. This is the price that LTA has agreed to pay for the bus

A 3 year bus might be worth only $750K in market value but will be carried on the books at .70 X 1.5 million = $1.05 million
A 5 year old bus might be worth only $150K on the market but be carried on the books at $750K.
Since LTA is paying book value, the price is way too high. LTA can be really nasty if they want and give them a rock bottom price for the buses. After all, its not easy to off load 4,000 buses.

SBS transit is keeping quiet on this, as it will see a one time windfall from selling all its buses to LTA at book value. Their risk is that after the first few inital BMC contracts which they have already been awarded, they will have to bid on other lines as the contracts expire and come up for bidding, and so they may not win that many bids in the future. In theory, they can become a smaller company. Especially since companies from overseas like Tower are willing to come into the market now. But right now, SBS will get over $5 billion and SMRT almost $2 billion. Additionally, because ownership of the buses still lie with SBS and SMRT, they can sell the bus at the end of the contracts for whatever they can get on the used bus market.

Its important to know that these contracts given under the BCM are for 2 to 10 years. SO, as the contracts expire, LTA will put them up for bidding again. Likely, those lines that have a 2 year contract will see the oldest buses on them. So that when the contract expires, the buses will be at the end of their economic lives. LTA will then buy new buses and put those lines within that contract up for bids, enabling the new operators to operate new buses.

In terms of the revenues, under the BSOL, the costs and expenses of operating the buses will be covered by the 2 licensees SMRT and SBS. But they keep all the revenues i.e. ticket sales. Under the BCM, LTA will award the contract based on the bids, pay for the maintenance and operating expenses of the buses, and the contract winner will collect the ticket revenues and remit them to LTA.

Hope that covers what you want to know.
 
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I thought you big time businessman mah ...pass on your empire to them lah.

I am only an SME boss. Earn good money, but it's not an empire. Besides, successful businessmen often like to hedge our bets and preserve our wealth. Getting our kids to become scholar generals is a good career path for them. My kids could still inherit my business at a later stage if they find public sector not to their liking.
 
7 billion for buses and depots?what a fucking joke.SMRT and SBS both do not even make anywhere near enough to even justify a price tag of 7 billion dollars,who the fuck in the world would even pay 7 billion for these two piece of shit businesses?where the fuck do they even get that much money to buy all the buses in the first place?smrt posted a profit of 91 million dollars in 2015 and SBS transit made a miserable profit of 16 million dollars.and they want a billion gajillion trillion dollars for their buses and depots?how long will it take for taxpayers to recoup their costs plus inflation?a hundred years?two hundred?
 
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7 billion dollars??????ROFL FUCKING LMAO!!!!!!!i can almost imagine SMRT GEORGE BOY at the negotiating table saying this in a dr evil accent "we sell LTA the buses and hold sinkies ransom for ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!!MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! while kissing his pinky finger.

[video=youtube;jTmXHvGZiSY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY[/video]
 
7 billion for buses and depots?what a fucking joke.SMRT and SBS both do not even make anywhere near enough to even justify a price tag of 7 billion dollars,who the fuck in the world would even pay 7 billion for these two piece of shit businesses?where the fuck do they even get that much money to buy all the buses in the first place?smrt posted a profit of 91 million dollars in 2015 and SBS transit made a miserable profit of 16 million dollars.and they want a billion gajillion trillion dollars for their buses and depots?how long will it take for taxpayers to recoup their costs plus inflation?a hundred years?two hundred?

U are right, if LTA bought every single share that SMRT has, including the ones that are owned by temasek, they only have to pay $2.48 billion, and that includes the rail business. The entire market capitalization of SMRT is $2.48 billion. The total market capitalization for SBS Transit is $744 million, and that includes all their business. LTA could buy these 2 fucking companies outright, take them private, and run the buses themselves. Like i said, the taxpayer is on the hook for this extraordinary profit.
 
And the licensees, i.e. SMRT, SBS, Tower, can, in cohort with PTC, increase fares as and when they need meet their profit targets? Passengers get screwed at every turn of the buses?
 
And the licensees, i.e. SMRT, SBS, Tower, can, in cohort with PTC, increase fares as and when they need meet their profit targets? Passengers get screwed at every turn of the buses?

Under the BCM, its a fixed price contract. So, there is no fare increases that the contract winner can increase. His bid has build in profits for him. All he does is collect money on behalf of LTA. Later on, PTC can increase the bus fares and the money will still flow to LTA. In the past, any fare increases by PTC go to the 2 bus companies.
 
Its a serious concern for scholars and generals who previously found roles in GLCs. I wonder if the Govt will now hive off and or outsource some civil core activities to look after these scholars and generals when they leave pubic service.

In the future, any company that wants to bid on a bus contract will have a director that is a former scholar general or some other ex senior serpent in order to try and win the contract by using their contacts. That is my prediction.
 
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