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Dear Sir,
Please see my reply to the President Singapore Go Federation on the reasons why his nominations for the Men's Team, Women's Team and the Mixed Pair Team were not selected for the 2010 Asian Games.
As the Asian Games is a major Games where the 45 NOCs in Asia send their best athletes, SNOC has set a mark of the 6th placing or standing so that our athletes or teams will be competitive at the Games. SNOC does not believe in sending athletes for exposure at these major Games. The NSAs are expected to expose their athletes to their regional,cotinental and world games, and if this had been done then the results of these athletes and teams preparing for the games would surely be of great help and perhaps good enough in supporting their nominations. Many of the more established NSAs such as Singapore Sailing, Singapore Shooting and Singapore bowling send their nominated athletes and teams for exposure in numerous internatonal competitions. With the exposure, come the results eventually, and they help when being considered for selection.
For the Weiqi nominations, sadly there was no effort made to field the teams against other stronger teams eg. even in a bilateral competition. With no results, it was difficult for the selectors to give the nod.
Regards,
Chris Chan
Secretary General
Singapore National Olympic Council
Tel: 65005502/63459275 l Fax: 63459274 l Website: [URL="http://www.singaporeolympics.com/"]www.singaporeolympics.com[/URL]
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Dear Kim Chiong,
SNOC's selection criteria paragraph 2 states,
* For team sports, they should currently be ranked 6th among the Asian Games countries.
* All achievements should be achieved within a twelve-month period before the 2010 Asian Games.
In your nomination for the Men's Team there were no results of the Men's Team. There was no attempt to bring the team to compete with any of the top countries' teams, but instead the NSA submitted the individual results of the 6 players to form the team. Their most current individual results are depicted below,
* Khang Zhan Bin - Ist in 2007 SEA Games (where Weiqi was only a demonstration sport).
* Tan Jia Cheng - 6th 2009 WAGC; 6th 2009 KPMC.
* Zhang Xiang - 2nd in 2007 SEA Games.
* Yen Ting Yu - No results against Asian opponents.
* Goh Rong Yao - No results against Asian opponents.
*Lou Yu Xiang - 8th in 2010 WAGC.
If the selectors wanted to have a feel of the individual athlete's current form, then only Jia Cheng and Yu Xiang had results (2009) that tell the selectors something. For the other four athletes their results were achieved in 2007, or there were no results at all.
Given the above, the selectors find it difficult to understand how the NSA had ranked the team as being 6th in Asia. The International Federation's (IF) ranking of Singapore as being 6th in Asia is also not supported by statistics or a ladder, as given by IFs such as FIFA, IAAF, FIBA, etc Without statistics or a ladder of all the Asian countries results, when the IF had ranked Singapore as 6th, could they be referring to Jia Cheng, because Jia Cheng was the only Singapore athlete who finished 6th in two competitions in 2009?
As for the Women's team, again there were no results to show where they stand in Asia.
For the Mixed Pair Team of Kang Zhan Bin and Cheng Mun Yi there was no results submitted, although there were results sibmitted for three different mixed pairs (results of competitions in 2007 and 2008).
The selectors therefore found it difficult to support the Men's Team, Women's Team and Mixed Pair Team for the 2010 Asian Games. Notwithstanding that, if there was an individual event, I dare say Jia Cheng would have got the nod from the selectors.
I would suggest that Singapore Weiqi Association learn from the other more established NSAs how they go about getting results to support their individual athletes or teams nominations for the major games. The results to support your nominations were sadly lacking, making it difficult for the selectors to pick your teams.
Regards,
Chris Chan
Secretary General
Singapore National Olympic Council
Tel: 65005502/63459275 l Fax: 63459274 l Website: [URL="http://www.singaporeolympics.com/"]www.singaporeolympics.com[/URL]
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Dear Sir,
Please see my reply to the President Singapore Go Federation on the reasons why his nominations for the Men's Team, Women's Team and the Mixed Pair Team were not selected for the 2010 Asian Games.
As the Asian Games is a major Games where the 45 NOCs in Asia send their best athletes, SNOC has set a mark of the 6th placing or standing so that our athletes or teams will be competitive at the Games. SNOC does not believe in sending athletes for exposure at these major Games. The NSAs are expected to expose their athletes to their regional,cotinental and world games, and if this had been done then the results of these athletes and teams preparing for the games would surely be of great help and perhaps good enough in supporting their nominations. Many of the more established NSAs such as Singapore Sailing, Singapore Shooting and Singapore bowling send their nominated athletes and teams for exposure in numerous internatonal competitions. With the exposure, come the results eventually, and they help when being considered for selection.
For the Weiqi nominations, sadly there was no effort made to field the teams against other stronger teams eg. even in a bilateral competition. With no results, it was difficult for the selectors to give the nod.
Regards,
Chris Chan
Secretary General
Singapore National Olympic Council
Tel: 65005502/63459275 l Fax: 63459274 l Website: [URL="http://www.singaporeolympics.com/"]www.singaporeolympics.com[/URL]
Privileged/Confidential information may be contained in this message. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not use, disclose or copy this communication to anyone. Please notify the sender of the error and delete it immediately.
Dear Kim Chiong,
SNOC's selection criteria paragraph 2 states,
* For team sports, they should currently be ranked 6th among the Asian Games countries.
* All achievements should be achieved within a twelve-month period before the 2010 Asian Games.
In your nomination for the Men's Team there were no results of the Men's Team. There was no attempt to bring the team to compete with any of the top countries' teams, but instead the NSA submitted the individual results of the 6 players to form the team. Their most current individual results are depicted below,
* Khang Zhan Bin - Ist in 2007 SEA Games (where Weiqi was only a demonstration sport).
* Tan Jia Cheng - 6th 2009 WAGC; 6th 2009 KPMC.
* Zhang Xiang - 2nd in 2007 SEA Games.
* Yen Ting Yu - No results against Asian opponents.
* Goh Rong Yao - No results against Asian opponents.
*Lou Yu Xiang - 8th in 2010 WAGC.
If the selectors wanted to have a feel of the individual athlete's current form, then only Jia Cheng and Yu Xiang had results (2009) that tell the selectors something. For the other four athletes their results were achieved in 2007, or there were no results at all.
Given the above, the selectors find it difficult to understand how the NSA had ranked the team as being 6th in Asia. The International Federation's (IF) ranking of Singapore as being 6th in Asia is also not supported by statistics or a ladder, as given by IFs such as FIFA, IAAF, FIBA, etc Without statistics or a ladder of all the Asian countries results, when the IF had ranked Singapore as 6th, could they be referring to Jia Cheng, because Jia Cheng was the only Singapore athlete who finished 6th in two competitions in 2009?
As for the Women's team, again there were no results to show where they stand in Asia.
For the Mixed Pair Team of Kang Zhan Bin and Cheng Mun Yi there was no results submitted, although there were results sibmitted for three different mixed pairs (results of competitions in 2007 and 2008).
The selectors therefore found it difficult to support the Men's Team, Women's Team and Mixed Pair Team for the 2010 Asian Games. Notwithstanding that, if there was an individual event, I dare say Jia Cheng would have got the nod from the selectors.
I would suggest that Singapore Weiqi Association learn from the other more established NSAs how they go about getting results to support their individual athletes or teams nominations for the major games. The results to support your nominations were sadly lacking, making it difficult for the selectors to pick your teams.
Regards,
Chris Chan
Secretary General
Singapore National Olympic Council
Tel: 65005502/63459275 l Fax: 63459274 l Website: [URL="http://www.singaporeolympics.com/"]www.singaporeolympics.com[/URL]
Privileged/Confidential information may be contained in this message. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not use, disclose or copy this communication to anyone. Please notify the sender of the error and delete it immediately.
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