Cheng Bok: Discovery of 2 boxes indicate they were brought in without us knowing

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Had it not been for their discovery of the used ballot boxes, Singaporeans would never know of the existence of the new boxes introduced at the counting centres to contain the counted ballot slips.

The ballot boxes in question were among those used in PE 2011 in which I contested.They were left in there for more than 2 years after PE. Singaporeans were told by Minister Chan Chun Sing that the boxes were ‘not controlled’ items after the voting slips had been removed from them.

In fact, he informed us that the used ballot boxes were supposed to be taken away by a contractor for disposal. If the boxes were really of no importance, then it begs the question: why issue advisories to two teenagers who pick up something of no importance? Clearly, the boxes must be of some importance and value to warrant the police issuing the advisories.

The discovery of these ballot boxes have actually highlighted a possible flaw in the process and procedures of the Electoral Voting System. Therefore we should thank the 2 students instead.

Let me explain further.

http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/201...-transparency-of-our-electoral-voting-system/
 
Ex-PAP dog only know how to complain, pretend only.

Go organize a protest and march to Parliament to demand for re-election.



Had it not been for their discovery of the used ballot boxes, Singaporeans would never know of the existence of the new boxes introduced at the counting centres to contain the counted ballot slips.

The ballot boxes in question were among those used in PE 2011 in which I contested.They were left in there for more than 2 years after PE. Singaporeans were told by Minister Chan Chun Sing that the boxes were ‘not controlled’ items after the voting slips had been removed from them.

In fact, he informed us that the used ballot boxes were supposed to be taken away by a contractor for disposal. If the boxes were really of no importance, then it begs the question: why issue advisories to two teenagers who pick up something of no importance? Clearly, the boxes must be of some importance and value to warrant the police issuing the advisories.

The discovery of these ballot boxes have actually highlighted a possible flaw in the process and procedures of the Electoral Voting System. Therefore we should thank the 2 students instead.

Let me explain further.

http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/201...-transparency-of-our-electoral-voting-system/
 
Source: The Online Citizen

Protecting the integrity and transparency of our electoral voting system
June 18 2014 19:16

Mr Tan Cheng Bock, former Member of Parliament and candidate in the Presidential Elections 2011 has commented that the discovery of the new boxes has pointed out a weakness in the process and procedure of the electoral system and said that he is puzzled over the advisories issued to the two 17-year old students who found 5 empty ballot boxes in a school. (Facebook note of Mr Tan)

The empty election ballot boxes were found in a school in the Bishan-Toa Payoh division in August last year. One of the students sent a few photos of the boxes to Temasek Review Emeritus (TRE) upon discovering them. He mentioned that he found five boxes in a school storeroom and took a picture with the newspaper on it to prove that the boxes were still around during that period of time (in 2013).

The Elections Department lodged a police report after receiving information about the discovery of the empty boxes.

According to the Police, the ballot boxes were “used and discarded boxes meant to be disposed of” by the Election Department’s waste collectors, except that they did not collect them after the elections.

“There was no evidence that relates to the tampering of ballot boxes before and while in use, and hence no breach of integrity of the electoral process,” said a police spokesman to a local news source.

The students who discovered the boxes were given the warning and counselled by the Police earlier this week. It is unknown if the contractor is being penalized for not completing the disposal work.

Below is the full posting of Mr Tan’s facebook note.

When I read in the papers on the police report that two 17-year-old students were issued advisories and counseled for the ‘unauthorised removal’ of 5 empty ballot boxes found in the storeroom of a school 10 months ago, I was puzzled.

In August 2013, the Elections Department made a police report on the discovery of the five ballot boxes. I commented on the matter in my facebook post of 17 Sep 2013 and I wrote to the Elections Department on 27 Sep 2013 and they replied via their letter on 11 Oct 2013.

I was not satisfied with Elections Department’s reply but decided that I should wait for the police report to be out before I comment further. Now, after 10months of investigations, we are merely told that 2 teenage students were cautioned with police advisories for this offence.

Had it not been for their discovery of the used ballot boxes, Singaporeans would never know of the existence of the new boxes introduced at the counting centres to contain the counted ballot slips.

The ballot boxes in question were among those used in PE 2011 in which I contested.They were left in there for more than 2 years after PE. Singaporeans were told by Minister Chan Chun Sing that the boxes were ‘not controlled’ items after the voting slips had been removed from them.

In fact, he informed us that the used ballot boxes were supposed to be taken away by a contractor for disposal. If the boxes were really of no importance, then it begs the question: why issue advisories to two teenagers who pick up something of no importance? Clearly, the boxes must be of some importance and value to warrant the police issuing the advisories.

The discovery of these ballot boxes have actually highlighted a possible flaw in the process and procedures of the Electoral Voting System. Therefore we should thank the 2 students instead.

Let me explain further.​

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Ballot boxes are specially designed boxes into which voters dropped their ballot slips at the polling stations. After polling is over, these ballot boxes are sealed and transported to the counting centres. The seals on the ballot boxes are then cut open and the ballot slips poured onto a big table for counting. The emptied ballot boxes are put aside and these were the type found in the school store room by the two teenagers.

Discovery of the boxes actually reveal that there were new boxes introduced at the counting centre. These new boxes were not inspected as the candidates and counting agents were not aware of the existence of these new boxes at the counting centres.

Introduction of these new boxes without the candidate and counting agent’s knowledge, create doubts that these boxes may not be empty in the first place.

Is this procedure right? Why the need to bring in these new boxes? Why the need to change?

Let’s look at the PE Act. ‘Ballot boxes’ as defined in Sect 24 of the PE Act clearly refers to boxes that are used for the casting of ballot papers. They are boxes for which the presiding officer at a polling station must carryout specified actions in the presence of witnesses of the candidates at the polling station to ensure that there is no tampering of the ballot boxes before polling starts and after polling ends.

Clearly, based on this definition in the PE Act, the new boxes are not ballot boxes because they were not used to put in the ballot slips at the polling stations. They are just boxes brought in to contain the counted votes. Why can’t they use back the same controlled ballot boxes? Why the need to change boxes?

This is not an issue of security of the votes and voting secrecy.

This discovery of the new boxes has pointed out a weakness in the process and procedure of our electoral system. Let us correct this, leave no doubt in the minds of the electorate, and move on. We must always protect the transparency and integrity of our electoral system. It is a fundamental pillar of our democratic society.​
 
Frankly i dunno wtf TCB is going on about......


If hes saying that theres a possibility that the fucking PAP had stuffed some ballot boxes to tip the elections to Tony jiakilaobee Tan's favour then its simple,.........


the heavens must decide.....if the fucker is not the rightful one then those who dare to have their pictures hung up high on the wall will soon have those same pictures hang in front of lorry lor........


Tuayapeh will soon find out liao lor.........
 
FUCKING PAPs CHEAT AND CHEAT AND CHEAT YET AGAIN

ONLY ONE SOLUTION




Hang those PAP maggots cockroaches with piano wires from lamp posts to make them dance before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
BBQ those PAP maggots cockroaches before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Cut a few more arseholes into those PAP maggots cockroaches to let out their shit before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Make those PAP maggots cockroaches eat joss sticks and candle wax before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.


PAP is finished.
The stinking glue and terror that hold PAP together is that old fart smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY. LKY is about to die in days or weeks.
LKY will never allow good decent people into the PAP and good decent people will not want to get into the PAP. Those in PAP are the most corrupt and moral degenerates and moral bankrupts and moral filths that are being presented to stinkaporeans as moral compasses.
None of those in PAP work for anyone but that smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY, to help him hold down Singaporeans to screw and fuck hundreds of BILLIONs from us all into smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY stinkapore sovereign funds.
They are there in PAP because LKY know that they are a bunch of self serving greedy bastards and scrapings of scums of society. To call them maggots cockroaches will be to insult real maggots and real cockroaches.


WE ALL ARE NOW WAITING FOR THE DEATH OF LKY IN COMING DAYS OR WEEKS.
WE ALL WILL YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AGAIN AND AGAIN DANCING SINGING ON TABLE TOPS AND STREETS
WE THEN WILL SEE THOSE IN PAP WITH SHARPENED KNIVES HOOTING ARSEHLOON A DOZEN NEW ARSEHOLES AND THE DEATH OF THE ENTIRE LEE KWA CLAN
WE THEN WILL PICK UP PIANO WIRES AND HANG ALL THOSE REMAINING PAP AND THEIR COLLABORATORS FROM LAMP POSTS AND SEE THOSE BASTARDS AND BITCHES DANCE.
AND HAPPINESS WILL RETURN TO OUR LAND.
AND STINKAPORE WILL BECOME SINGAPORE ONCE MORE.
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Had it not been for their discovery of the used ballot boxes, Singaporeans would never know of the existence of the new boxes introduced at the counting centres to contain the counted ballot slips.
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The discovery of these ballot boxes have actually highlighted a possible flaw in the process and procedures of the Electoral Voting System. Therefore we should thank the 2 students instead.

Once whiter than white will always be a CCB. He had gone through so many GE and he doesn't know that there will be used boxes left. Instead he has chosen to act blur and bring out bullshit that NEW boxes are brought in to contain the ballot slips to stir suspicion.

Simple logic will explain that when the ballot slips are stacked and counted, the space they occupied will be less than the original space occupied when they are randomly throw into the boxes at the polling stations. Common sense will tell that the counting staff are not going to strew the slips back into all the boxes after counting had completed. Instead any sane human will stack the ballot slips into the minimum number of used boxes possible because they need to send them to where the hell for safe keeping i.e. the lesser the number of boxes used, the better. So the number of used boxes needed for putting the nicely stacked slips will definitely be much less than the original number of boxes brought in so there would be empty used boxes left behind.

He kept so quiet about CPF but instead brought out such shit to discredit opposing voice. Better disappear than trying to pretend to be an opposing voice.
 
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election coming.
the handwriting is on the wall.
tua liao nee MP visit my blk today.
most close their door and window shut including me.
only a few porlanpar shake hand with her
 
those on sbf who supported this ccb tcb are pap provocateurs themselves. i see them on the paylist. and they are my fellow pap moles. thanks to them for doing a good job on sbf fooling nincompoops. :p
 
There should be a Commission of Inquiry.

Unless someone wants to cover up something unpleasant ...
 
There should be a Commission of Inquiry.

Unless someone wants to cover up something unpleasant ...
I think that is what they want. Create a wayang show out of nothing to distract from the current hot issue.

First it's NS and now is this chap. They must be quite desperate. Using all their top agents.
 
ballot stuffing. le gahmen couldn't get enough expats or talents to sign up for PR, so they invented some or replaced votes by bulk. win-win, always win
 
I think that is what they want. Create a wayang show out of nothing to distract from the current hot issue.

First it's NS and now is this chap. They must be quite desperate. Using all their top agents.

er... nope. if this was really vote-stuffing, we can convince UN to bring in independent observers/investigators for the next erection. that MIGHT help.
 
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er... nope. if this was really vote-stuffing, we can convince UN to bring in independent observers/investigators for the next erection. that MIGHT help.

The new boxes come as flatten folded cardboard sheets, not assembled boxes. Only at the end of the day are they assembled into boxes to keep the counted slips.

Results of the count must be announced within each counting station, in the presence of the candidate or his agents (if they choose to stay there). Only when there is no contest for recount, can the new boxes be assembled to store the counted slips. The candidates or their agents can stay all the way to the end to witness the process of storing the counted slips. The process is transparent. It has been going on for so many GEs. Why bring up such doubts now when he is fully aware of the process? So many people have been involved in the counting before. Any one involved in the counting or the candidates or agents will know. It is no secret. Why make himself a fool by raising such doubts now?
 
i suggest the counting center to be right at the polling center... so there is no need for transferring.

The cheating can be at the transferring part of the process.
 
The new boxes come as flatten folded cardboard sheets, not assembled boxes. Only at the end of the day are they assembled into boxes to keep the counted slips.

Results of the count must be announced within each counting station, in the presence of the candidate or his agents (if they choose to stay there). Only when there is no contest for recount, can the new boxes be assembled to store the counted slips. The candidates or their agents can stay all the way to the end to witness the process of storing the counted slips. The process is transparent. It has been going on for so many GEs. Why bring up such doubts now when he is fully aware of the process? So many people have been involved in the counting before. Any one involved in the counting or the candidates or agents will know. It is no secret. Why make himself a fool by raising such doubts now?

The boxes assembled themselves, PxP had deployed , 'transformer boxes'....
 
Next GE we see bus loads of Banglas with pink ICs being sent to voting centers to vote
 
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