Bro,
PAD militia are not communist, they appear to be backed by the right wing old elites and monarchists
PAD militia are not communist, they appear to be backed by the right wing old elites and monarchists
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breaking news:Nationwide Strike against Samak
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Bro,
PAD militia are not communist, they appear to be backed by the right wing old elites and monarchists
that's what they say. They promote democracy, they want democracy, but these actions are not actions of democracy. Promoting for self appointment in government without people elected ones(30% they suggest) is going down the road of communism. Though I wouldn't say its wrong to list them as wingers at the moment. But slowly and surely if they start gettin their way, this country will turn to a communist one
Bro,
You are right to say that PAD militia do not appear to subscribe to "one man one vote" democracy, in fact chef Samak was perhaps correct to say that PAD(D) in fact stands for People's Alliance Destroying Democracy
However I think you must not confuse right wing facist rule with left wing communism. I think PAD militia appear to fall into the former and not the latter
You are right to say that PAD militia do not appear to subscribe to "one man one vote" democracy, in fact chef Samak was perhaps correct to say that PAD(D) in fact stands for People's Alliance Destroying Democracy
However I think you must not confuse right wing facist rule with left wing communism. I think PAD militia appear to fall into the former and not the latter
Bro,
You are right to say that PAD militia do not appear to subscribe to "one man one vote" democracy, in fact chef Samak was perhaps correct to say that PAD(D) in fact stands for People's Alliance Destroying Democracy
However I think you must not confuse right wing facist rule with left wing communism. I think PAD militia appear to fall into the former and not the latter
Former yes ,but once they get their way, we will get to see their agenda:o
i hope u can see what's PEOPLES' POWER really is all about. it's about toppling bad gov EN MASSE. it's almost happening everywhere in the region including malaysia.
why isn't it happening in singapore when SDP keeps loudhailing at it all the times??the peasants have already spoken. does SDP understand or have they really think they have connected to the ground?
No matter how you try to twist. There is no escape that PAP is to be toppled.:p
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Forty-three state enterprise labour unions have agreed to stage strikes and cut public utility services nationwide from tomorrow as part of a campaign to force the government out of office.
Sawit Kaewwan, secretary-general of the State Enterprise Labour Relations Confederation, said the unions will cut water and electricity supplies mainly to agencies dealing with security, such as the police, targetting provincial police offices.
Telephone lines to government agencies and the houses of cabinet ministers will also be disconnected.
The confederation also agreed that measures will be put in place to delay the arrival and departure times of Thai Airways International flights nationwide.
About 80% of city buses will stop running, but northern and northeastern train services resumed yesterday.
A union representative told the meeting the Government Saving Bank's 7,500 staff will also follow the confederation's resolution, he said.
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Mr Sawit, also a core leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy, said the plan to cut public utility services was in response to the use of force against PAD supporters.
Sirichai Mai-ngam, president of the Electricity Generating Authority of Thailand's labour union, said the confederation's announcement was not only a threat, but would be put into action.
Mr Sirichai, also a key PAD member, said the moves by the labour unions were intended to protect the interests of the nation, and were not for the benefit of state enterprise workers.
The confederation has 43 state enterprise labour unions with more than 200,000 members, Mr Sirichai said.
"Today is our D-Day. We have given them [the government] many chances.
"If the government does not resign, we will continue our operations until it quits," Mr Sawit said.
Boonma Pongma, vice-president of the BMTA's union, said there will be only 800 free red-cream buses left to serve Bangkok commuters, or about 20% of the whole fleet.
Somsak Manop, vice-president of Thai Airways International's union, said the union will delay the arrival and departure times of THAI aircraft and will reduce the number of flights.
Thammarat Ramkwan, president of the Provincial Waterworks Authority's union, said the union will initially cut water supplies to police stations across the country.
Phien Yongnoo, president of the Metropolitan Electricity Authority's labour union, said the union was considering cutting off the power supply to help the PAD pressure the government.
However, the power supply cut would be applied to government agencies whose bills were overdue by one month.
"We will hold a discussion to consider whether the cut-off period could be shorter than one month. It should be one week or whatever. We will do everything to achieve our goal of pressuring the government," he said.
However, at least three labour unions from state-run banks disagreed with the planned strike.
Kusol Boonklom, president of the Bank for Agriculture and Agricultural Co-operatives' labour union, said members of the BAAC union needed to discuss the planned strike among themselves first.
Natthapat Yimyai, president of the Government Savings Bank's labour union, said his members had varying views on whether to join the strike.
Somsak Boonthong, chairman of the SRT's board, said the board is considering whether to resign following the stoppages by railway workers.
"The move by the SRT union to stop rail services was wrong, so we are considering resigning and taking responsibility," he said. The board is expected to make a decision in two days, he said.
Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej called an urgent meeting yesterday to discuss the union stance with leaders of the People Power party.
PM's Office Minister Chusak Sirinil said the prime minister stressed the importance of legal means to deal with the protesters.
Meanwhile, northern and northeastern train services resumed yesterday after hundreds of railway workers went on strike last week and paralysed the country's rail system.
In Nakhon Ratchasima province, State Railway of Thailand governor Yutthana Sapcharoen held talks with railway workers and persuaded them to cancel the strike.
The first northeastern train, on the Nakhon Ratchasima-Surin route, left at 6pm, while northeastern-bound services from Bangkok were expected to resume last night.
In Phuket, the PAD denied any involvement in the Aug 29-31 blockade of Phuket international airport.
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UNIONS MOBILISE
Forty-three state enterprise labour unions are threatening action against the government, starting tomorrow.
- Metropolitan Electricity Authority and Provincial Electricity Authority:
Cut off the power supply to state agencies, including police and provincial halls. The unions say households are unlikely to be affected.
- Metropolitan Waterworks Authority, Provincial Waterworks Authority:
Stop the water supply to state agencies, starting with police nationwide.
- Thai Airways Union:
Cause delays to THAI flights.
- Bangkok Mass Transit Authority:
Suspend 80% of bus services. Only 800 buses will be available in the city and will be free of charge. Free bus rides to the PAD sites.
- TOT Plc:
Cut off telephone lines to cabinet ministers' residences and government agencies.
- Government Savings Bank:
About 7,500 staff plan to take leave from Wednesday.
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Forty-three state enterprise labour unions have agreed to stage strikes and cut public utility services nationwide from tomorrow as part of a campaign to force the government out of office.
Sawit Kaewwan, secretary-general of the State Enterprise Labour Relations Confederation, said the unions will cut water and electricity supplies mainly to agencies dealing with security, such as the police, targetting provincial police offices.
Telephone lines to government agencies and the houses of cabinet ministers will also be disconnected.
The confederation also agreed that measures will be put in place to delay the arrival and departure times of Thai Airways International flights nationwide.
About 80% of city buses will stop running, but northern and northeastern train services resumed yesterday.
A union representative told the meeting the Government Saving Bank's 7,500 staff will also follow the confederation's resolution, he said.
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Mr Sawit, also a core leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy, said the plan to cut public utility services was in response to the use of force against PAD supporters.
Sirichai Mai-ngam, president of the Electricity Generating Authority of Thailand's labour union, said the confederation's announcement was not only a threat, but would be put into action.
Mr Sirichai, also a key PAD member, said the moves by the labour unions were intended to protect the interests of the nation, and were not for the benefit of state enterprise workers.
The confederation has 43 state enterprise labour unions with more than 200,000 members, Mr Sirichai said.
"Today is our D-Day. We have given them [the government] many chances.
"If the government does not resign, we will continue our operations until it quits," Mr Sawit said.
Boonma Pongma, vice-president of the BMTA's union, said there will be only 800 free red-cream buses left to serve Bangkok commuters, or about 20% of the whole fleet.
Somsak Manop, vice-president of Thai Airways International's union, said the union will delay the arrival and departure times of THAI aircraft and will reduce the number of flights.
Phien Yongnoo, president of the Metropolitan Electricity Authority's labour union, said the union was considering cutting off the power supply to help the PAD pressure the government.
However, the power supply cut would be applied to government agencies whose bills were overdue by one month.
"We will hold a discussion to consider whether the cut-off period could be shorter than one month. It should be one week or whatever. We will do everything to achieve our goal of pressuring the government," he said.
However, at least three labour unions from state-run banks disagreed with the planned strike.
Kusol Boonklom, president of the Bank for Agriculture and Agricultural Co-operatives' labour union, said members of the BAAC union needed to discuss the planned strike among themselves first.
Natthapat Yimyai, president of the Government Savings Bank's labour union, said his members had varying views on whether to join the strike.
Somsak Boonthong, chairman of the SRT's board, said the board is considering whether to resign following the stoppages by railway workers.
"The move by the SRT union to stop rail services was wrong, so we are considering resigning and taking responsibility," he said. The board is expected to make a decision in two days, he said.
Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej called an urgent meeting yesterday to discuss the union stance with leaders of the People Power party.
PM's Office Minister Chusak Sirinil said the prime minister stressed the importance of legal means to deal with the protesters.
Meanwhile, northern and northeastern train services resumed yesterday after hundreds of railway workers went on strike last week and paralysed the country's rail system.
In Nakhon Ratchasima province, State Railway of Thailand governor Yutthana Sapcharoen held talks with railway workers and persuaded them to cancel the strike.
The first northeastern train, on the Nakhon Ratchasima-Surin route, left at 6pm, while northeastern-bound services from Bangkok were expected to resume last night.
In Phuket, the PAD denied any involvement in the Aug 29-31 blockade of Phuket international airport.
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UNIONS MOBILISE
Forty-three state enterprise labour unions are threatening action against the government, starting tomorrow.
- Metropolitan Electricity Authority and Provincial Electricity Authority:
Cut off the power supply to state agencies, including police and provincial halls. The unions say households are unlikely to be affected.
- Metropolitan Waterworks Authority, Provincial Waterworks Authority:
Stop the water supply to state agencies, starting with police nationwide.
- Thai Airways Union:
Cause delays to THAI flights.
- Bangkok Mass Transit Authority:
Suspend 80% of bus services. Only 800 buses will be available in the city and will be free of charge. Free bus rides to the PAD sites.
- TOT Plc:
Cut off telephone lines to cabinet ministers' residences and government agencies.
- Government Savings Bank:
About 7,500 staff plan to take leave from Wednesday.
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Shows that Thais are better protestors than Yap
That is your problem. Protest is making trouble? So a leader that create laws that benefit themselves is not????
By using law to claim that he is legally holding position while slowly amend the law to suit himself is not barbaric?
The thais are not like sinkie cowards, They can see what the leader is doing and if they are not happy, they throw him out. Not all who are not in protest are considered happy with the govt. You got much to learn about the Thais.
I prefer to mixed around with people who knows that things get wrong and go forward and correct it, rather than one who just sit back and wait for laws to change in order to act accordingly which in fact the laws are unjustly set.
Many thais are unhappy with the way samuk runs the country. That is a fact. And most did not take part in the protest.
Take a look at your own sinkieland first before you start commenting on other countries. You can check up the real history of LKY and how he change laws to benefit his family. Grandson took up eco scholarship even though the result is not top notch, son become minister, in law and other becomes head of company.
The thais are smart enough for not letting such thing to happen. It become clear who i should mix with.
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You talk till you are so garang, why not you enlighten us how many protests you held before or how many you went to when you are an ex-singaporean? Or you only know how to use the keyboard to vent your frustrations.
Do you want to check out the history on which thai minister's son went scot free for being a murderer?
I supposed you know but chose not to post it.
cheer the thais... so where are those so-called political intellects here. With all their forsaken sinkie theories on how the political situation should be this and that.
The thais are people who dun give a shit to what rules and laws of things, if the leader is an ass and incapable, and self-serving, they do not need to wait for the next election like those sinkies to throw out the leader. (btw, even during elections, sinkies also dunno what to vote)
Laws and rules are to be respected when the leader is worthy to be respected. Sinkie got so much to learn.
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Can Singapore guard against neighbours if it were to spill overseas to Singapore ?
Do we have enough smart men who fights for Singapore and not for just himself !
And when it happens, do we have WMDs to kill masses ! Is our soldiers properly trained ?
The thais are people who dun give a shit to what rules and laws of things, if the leader is an ass and incapable, and self-serving, they do not need to wait for the next election like those sinkies to throw out the leader. (btw, even during elections, sinkies also dunno what to vote)
Laws and rules are to be respected when the leader is worthy to be respected. Sinkie got so much to learn.
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Can Singapore guard against neighbours if it were to spill overseas to Singapore ?
Do we have enough smart men who fights for Singapore and not for just himself !
And when it happens, do we have WMDs to kill masses ! Is our soldiers properly trained ?
This isn't pple's power. This is just a bunch of richer and more well off pple trying to bully their way to get those in power out of office. If they call for another election now, the same party will still be elected. Such is democracy.
Just becoz you are rich or more educated doesnt matter, what matters is what the majority thinks. 1 pple 1 vote, Thailand is made up of mostly poorer and lesser educated pple. So what if they think those poor farmers doesnt know a think. The current government is elected by the popular vote. Just becoz a bunch of know it all thinks they know better does not give them the right to overrule the poor or lesser educated. This is not a good example of what a democracy can do, this is a good example of how one can abuse a democratic system. If the PAD wins, its a win by the minority, not this is not what the majority of the Thais wants. I am pretty sure PPP will win the elections again if they call for a snap election now
Just becoz you are rich or more educated doesnt matter, what matters is what the majority thinks. 1 pple 1 vote, Thailand is made up of mostly poorer and lesser educated pple. So what if they think those poor farmers doesnt know a think. The current government is elected by the popular vote. Just becoz a bunch of know it all thinks they know better does not give them the right to overrule the poor or lesser educated. This is not a good example of what a democracy can do, this is a good example of how one can abuse a democratic system. If the PAD wins, its a win by the minority, not this is not what the majority of the Thais wants. I am pretty sure PPP will win the elections again if they call for a snap election now
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Putting this in SG terms. Its like the Elites appointing a government without even bothering to go through elections. Yes we know they will win anyway but at least U have a choice to choose the other guy
Having the Elite in your country choose their own pple for the top job and kicking out anyone that the poor elect. This is not democracy its back to the feudal system where a handful of elites choose who they want as their leader. If PAD wins, its a loss to democracy!!! Democracy is to rule by the pple, not rule by elites.
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