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Beware of US Tech: China Dumps Western Tech!

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Many Singaporean Chinese look down on their own kind but look up to Ang Mohs. Indians too. You see it more in ex-colonies like HK and Singpoare.

The sociologists call it internalized racism. You see a lot of these retards in this forum.

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Once XJP and CCP regime collapse and installed with democratic Gov, all google and related apps, Whatsapp etc. would no longer be banned, such issues would auto disappear by itself. No need to use what ranjiao UnionPay using Wechat farking CB nonsense when shopping in China now.
You're naive. Even if China were to have a democratic government, what's to stop the US from banning Chinese companies from using Google and Android and Whatsapp once Chinese companies threaten to overtake the likes of Intel and Apple? Once the Chinese economy is poised to be #1?

You might not have been born when the US was imposing all kinds of sanctions and tariffs on Japanese goods in the '80s, an era when Japan threatened to overtake the US as the world's #1 (based on projected annual GDP and export growth) and books like Japan as Number 1 were flying off the shelves.

As long you continue to suck your thumb and play second fiddle to the US like Japan, Korea and Germany, you're invited to the party. If you're big enough to knock the Yanks off the pedestal, the kid gloves come off. Have no illusions. The US will never accept a non-Western superpower as numero uno. Get that right.

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China Will Be At Forefront of AI, Alphabet’s Pichai Says

  • Pichai calls for collaboration between China and US on AI
  • CEO compares importance of global talk on AI to climate change

Sundar Pichai speaks during the APEC CEO Summit in San Francisco on Nov. 16.

Sundar Pichai speaks during the APEC CEO Summit in San Francisco on Nov. 16.
Photographer: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg


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By Shirin Ghaffary

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17 November 2023 at 7:12 AM SGT

Alphabet Inc. Chief Executive Officer Sundar Pichai said he expects China to be “at the forefront” of artificial intelligence, and said it’s important for the US to collaborate with the Asian nation on both regulation and innovation.

The scale of AI work in China “is just astounding to see,” Pichai said at the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation conference in San Francisco, in an on-stage interview by Bloomberg’s Emily Chang. “In some ways, China is going to be at the forefront of AI and that’s a given.”
 
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Actually a little known fact is that the Chinese government bond market is the 3rd largest in the world after USD and Yen, but only 10% are foreign investors. Its yield is consistently higher then the developed market bonds. The stable yuan is also an attractive feature for investors.

BUT...

Problem is Xi will never float the currency - it is now a 'managed float' - because he wants to keep the currency undervalued to boost exports. But this has negative consequences: it encourages over-investment in manufacturing, decreases imports (more expensive), and stunts the development of a strong domestic consumer market.

The other problem is capital outflow controls, also used to control exchange rate: foreign investors are afraid that yuan-dominated assets may become illiquid and non-convertible to foreign currencies if Xi suddenly decides to clamp down on capital outflow to 'stabilise' the economy. The lack of transparency in Xi's policy-making is also dampening investors' confidence.

The long and short of it is that Xi is trying to micromanage the renminbi and economy without understanding that while some stability is good, too much control will actually drive away investment and stunt the economy. He's still obsessed with maintaining an export-oriented economy and large trade and current account surpluses, whereas a truly mature economy needs to balance domestic consumer spending with export demand.
The long and short is that Xi is afraid that common people get too rich and start to dump CCP aside and CCP lose control of china and the population.

Nothing about Economy, Xi does not understand Economy at all. Xi does not know and understand monetary policy. Xi does not know how foreign investment will drive economy. In short, he only knows how to get rid of opponent defying his wish.

You just actually " beautify Xi Jinping " .
 

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The long and short is that Xi is afraid that common people get too rich and start to dump CCP aside and CCP lose control of china and the population.
Xi is afraid of losing control - correct. Communist leaders are control freaks.

Afraid of common people getting rich? I think Xi is more afraid of unemployment,rising household debts (property bubble) and poverty leading to unrest and protests which undermine CCP's legitimacy. An unelected party will always live in fear of being overthrown by revolution.

Agrees he knows nothing about economic and monetary policy but is afraid to cede decision-making to the real experts.

I don't 'beautify' Xi. I merely understand the 'control' mentality of all authoritarian leaders and dictators. Xi in many ways is no different from LKY, just that LKY took to foreign investments to drive the economy because of our small market and lack of human and natural resources.
 
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Huawei Mate 60 Pro+ crowned King of Camera phones in DxOMark test

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Nov 18, 2023

Huawei, the popular Chinese smartphone company, is making a comeback in the market despite facing sanctions from the US. Although it faced challenges in performance due to restrictions on using certain chips, it has continued to excel in camera quality. The Huawei Mate 60 Pro+ recently secured the top position in DxOMark rankings after the Huawei P60 Pro, showing a strong performance in flagship smartphones.

Huawei Mate 60 Pro+

In particular, the Huawei Mate 60 Pro+ has topped the charts in the ultra-premium segment against competition like the iPhone 15 Pro Max, Pixel 8 Pro, and the Oppo Find X6 Pro. It has scored 157 points on the DxOMark camera test, edging out the Huawei P60 Pro by 1 point. Category-wise, it has taken the crown for the best Bokeh and Photos (Main camera performance for capturing still images in various light environments) categories. Here’s a more comprehensive breakdown of its overall performance.

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Huawei unveils autonomous parking feature at press conference of Luxeed S7

By Debasish

Nov 24, 2023

During the recent press conference of the Luxeed S7, Huawei’s CEO, Yu Chengdong, proudly introduced its autonomous parking feature. The accompanying six-minute video showcased two significant aspects: valet parking and one-click summoning.

CEO Yu Chengdong demonstrates impressive autonomy capabilities of the system

The valet parking function allows the driver to confidently exit the vehicle as it autonomously navigates to the designated parking space. The vehicle’s autonomous behavior include following the road, activating turn signals, and responding dynamically to pedestrians and other vehicles by either slowing down or braking.

Notably, the autonomous vehicle operates at a considerable speed, reaching up to 20 km/h in favorable road conditions. It adeptly handles complex maneuvers, smoothly navigating multi-curves with ease. In narrow sections, encountering oncoming traffic prompts the vehicle to proactively reverse. It showcases the level of sophistication and safety of the system.
 

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The electrical car and the handphone is the result of over investment by government into these 2 industries.

If China wants to save the economic, the most directly way is to send more money into the hands of their own people. Kick start the spending with forceful way.
 

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The US-led sanctions against China may be a blessing in disguise, in the longer term:

1. It forces China to pour money into its own high-end chips sector and critical technologies and reduce reliance on imported tech;
2. It reduces China's exposure to US equipment and software which may be vulnerable to hacking by Western countries (ironic as the US has always accused Huawei of being a party to CCP spying)

The days are long gone where China could just sit back, let the US spend billions on R & D, and then reap the benefits by either importing or stealing US tech and use reverse engineering to catch up. The sanctions are a wake-up call: develop your own original and applied R & D, give support to your own tech companies, and encourage originality and innovation in your institutes of higher learning. Never depend on another's country's largesse: what the US can give you today, it can take back anytime.


Huawei, US-Sanctioned Firms Win as China Dumps Western Tech

October 26, 2023

A push since last year to replace all Western equipment in critical sectors with domestic alternatives ‘has re-drawn entire sub-sectors’ of China’s software industry

China is spending billions on homegrown technology in a push to replace all Western-made equipment from critical sectors, and the move has proved to be a boon for Huawei and other US-sanctioned firms.

The push, having gained pace since last year, has seen Beijing spend heavily on replacing computer equipment, and sources say the telecom and financial sectors are set to be next in line.

The replacement drive has re-drawn entire sub-sectors of the software industry, data shows.

The combined China market share held by five major foreign makers of database management systems – the majority of which are American – dropped from 57.3% in 2018 to 27.3% by the end of 2022, according to industry group IDC.

The push to swap foreign-made technology with domestic alternatives comes as the US clamps down on high-tech exports to the country, and Beijing rushes to “avoid being strangled” by Western tech sanctions.

But the move is also motivated by Chinese President Xi Jinping’s increased focus on removing risks to national security.

‘Beware of US tech’​

Tech researchers such as Mo Jianlei of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, the country’s largest state-run research organisation, said the Chinese government was increasingly concerned about Western equipment being hacked by foreign powers.

Over the past year, state-linked researchers also called on Beijing to strengthen anti-hacking defences in its financial infrastructure due to geopolitical concerns.

One March research paper highlighted the dependence of China’s UnionPay credit card system on US software firm BMC for settlements.

“Beware of security vulnerabilities in hardware and software set by the US side … build a financial security ‘firewall’,” the researchers wrote.

State-backed researchers also identified digital payments as particularly vulnerable to possible Western hacking, according to a review of their work. That makes a push to indigenise such technology likely.


Tenders also show domestic replacement projects this year are targeting markedly sensitive infrastructure.

Huawei, US-sanctioned firms gain ground​

China’s long-running effort to build an independent computing system spawned state-owned companies that are now increasingly winning major contracts.

For instance, Beijing awarded two firms tenders to replace foreign-made computers in units linked to the People’s Liberation Army. Both were subsidiaries of China Electronics Corporation and China Electronics Technology Group Corporation — two firms heavily targeted by US sanctions.

Similarly, state-owned China Tobacco in July began switching some subsidiaries from Microsoft Windows to Huawei’s EulerOS, according to an employee of a software vendor that services the firm.

The switch came on the heels of a 2022 order from China’s state asset regulator to replace office software systems with domestic products by 2027. That was the first time such specific deadlines were imposed.

The order pushed state-owned enterprises (SOEs) away from US companies such as Microsoft and Adobe, according to an employee of a Beijing-based firm that develops domestic office-processing software.

Meanwhile, Huawei has since emerged as the leading firm in this replacement cycle, according to three people familiar with China’s enterprise tech industry.

In 2022, Huawei’s enterprise business, which includes software and cloud computing operations, reported 133 billion yuan in sales, up 30% on the previous year.

One of the people said privately-held Huawei was seen as more nimble than state-owned groups in rolling out products and executing projects.

The other two sources highlighted Huawei’s broad product suite – spanning chips to software – as an advantage.

Clients also prize Huawei for its ability to process data on internal company servers and external cloud networks, as well as its wide offering of cybersecurity products, according to the employee of a China Tobacco tech supplier.

The switch in numbers​

The number of tenders from SOEs, government and military bodies to nationalise equipment doubled to 235 from 119 in the 12 months after September 2022, according to a finance ministry database seen by Reuters.

In the same period, the value of awarded projects listed on the database totalled 156.9 million yuan, or more than triple the previous year.

That is only a fraction of nationwide tender bids, but it is the largest collection of state tenders publicly available and mirrors third-party data.

In 2022, China spent 1.4 trillion yuan ($191 billion) replacing foreign hardware and software, marking a year-on-year increase of 16.2%, data from IT research firm First New Voice shows.

China’s tech catch-up​

Despite spending the big bucks, Beijing’s lack of advanced chip-manufacturing capabilities prevent it from completely substituting products with alternatives that are entirely locally made, analysts say.

China’s effort to build an independent computing system dates back to at least its 2006 five-year plan for science and technology development, which listed the semiconductor and software systems sectors as national priorities.

However, previous domestic substitution efforts stalled because China did not have the “technical chops to pull off localisation until now,” Kendra Schaefer, head of tech policy research at Beijing-based consultancy Trivium China, said.

“And to a certain extent they still kind of don’t.”

Western firms still in lead​

Foreign firms still remain dominant suppliers for China’s banking and telecoms database management. Non-Chinese companies held 90% of market share for banking database systems at the end of 2022, according to EqualOcean, a tech consultancy.

Financial institutions are generally reluctant to switch database systems despite government pressure, said one industry source, adding that they have higher stability requirements than many other sectors and local players cannot yet match their needs.

Even for personal computers, banks that switch from an international brand to China’s dominant supplier Lenovo would still be reliant on critical chip components provided by Western firms, one industry source said.

An article published this year in the journal Cyberspace Security by researchers from the state-run China Telecommunications Corporation concluded the country was overdependent on chips made by US giant Qualcomm for back-end management, as well as on Apple’s iOS and Google’s Android systems.

“(They) are all firmly controlled by American companies,” the researchers wrote.


  • Reuters, with additional editing by Vishakha Saxena

China should dump ASML and start its own X Ray Direct Write Lithography system?
 

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China should dump ASML and start its own X Ray Direct Write Lithography system?
If they could, they would have done that long long time ago.
Chip making in multi international, you need partnership and not china's mentality that they want to do everything.

They want to be big in military. They want to be a big brother but they steal people lunch everywhere. They try to bully everyone from their neighbors to US. It like across the world. China can't be anywhere and anytime doing all the things as and when they like.

It's not like Chinese is dumb. Infact they are so intelligent that they are trying to bully everyone and offending everyone except those in Africa.
 

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I have some boomer saying Chinese is good . That's from my father's generation. They still have the fond memory that china is weak and get bullied left right center by everyone.
 

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If they could, they would have done that long long time ago.
Chip making in multi international, you need partnership and not china's mentality that they want to do everything.

They want to be big in military. They want to be a big brother but they steal people lunch everywhere. They try to bully everyone from their neighbors to US. It like across the world. China can't be anywhere and anytime doing all the things as and when they like.

It's not like Chinese is dumb. Infact they are so intelligent that they are trying to bully everyone and offending everyone except those in Africa.
Many sinki dun know a things about tech
 

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I have some boomer saying Chinese is good . That's from my father's generation. They still have the fond memory that china is weak and get bullied left right center by everyone.
China must understand its role and responsibility as it has ascend to a Top 3 nation on earth

Greater power cum with greater responsibility towards other stakeholders
 
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