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Critics blast federal government's 'immoral and un-Australian' ban on citizens returning from India
Kylie Moore-Gilbert described the travel ban as "Immoral and un-Australian".( Supplied: Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade )
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The federal government's ban on its own citizens returning from India has been described as "immoral and un-Australian", with the former race discrimination commissioner questioning why the subcontinent has been treated differently to other parts of the world that suffered devastating COVID waves.
Key points:
The rules, described by the government as "drastic but necessary", mean anyone who has been in India within the previous 14 days is prohibited from entering Australia.
Among those critical of the move, which comes into force on Monday and will last until at least May 15, is Kylie Moore-Gilbert — a recently-freed Australian academic who was detained for more than two years in Iran.
"I know what it means to do time for absolutely no reason whatsoever," she tweeted.
"I also know what it means to be rescued from a COVID-riddled overseas hellhole and be brought back to Australia [yes into quarantine].
Some advocates are also questioning whether the ban could potentially be a violation of Australia's international law obligations.
"The section that the minister has made the emergency direction under also requires whatever action is the least restrictive and least intrusive way of dealing with the risk," peak civil rights group Liberty Victoria's president Julia Kretzenbacher said.
"We have hotel quarantine to deal with the risk, so in Liberty Victoria's view the actions taken are not the least restrictive or least intrusive way of protecting Australians."
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The Australian Human Rights Commission says it holds "deep concerns" about the new restrictions' impact on Australians' human rights.
The commission said it was approaching the government directly with its concerns, as well as urging Parliament's Senate Select Committee on COVID-19 to review the restrictions.
"The need for such restrictions must be publicly justified. The government must show that these measures are not discriminatory and the only suitable way of dealing with the threat to public health," it said in a statement.
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Former race discrimination commissioner Tim Soutphommasane said there was an inconsistency in the government's policy, that he hoped was not related to race.
"We didn't see differential treatment being extended to countries such as the United States, the UK, and any European country even though the rates of infection were very high and the danger of arrivals from those countries was very high," he said.
The government has acknowledged the policy is difficult but said it was implemented on the back of expert health advice.
"We have taken drastic action to keep Australians safe and what we face in India is a very serious situation where the medical advice has been to put in place these measures," Treasurer Josh Frydenberg said.
"It's temporary, it's based on the medical advice and it will be reviewed on the 15th of May."
Josh Frydenberg defends the Government's 'drastic' decision to suspend travel from India
Mr Frydenberg described the situation in India as "dire", on the same day the country recorded more than 400,000 COVID-19 cases — a global record.
State and federal leaders, as well as health experts, have voiced growing concerns about the number of cases in Australia's quarantine system from India – in particular after two separate leaks from Perth's hotel set-up in just over a week.
"India is an epicentre of death and destruction as we speak," WA Premier Mark McGowan said last week.
"I don't think there is any need to go to India, I don't."
But for Australians stranded in India, the commentary and the decision-making has been deeply hurtful.
'This could be the last time you are speaking with me'
Kim flew to India after her father's death in December and had been due to fly back to Australia next Tuesday.
Kim maintains contact with her family via Skype. ( Supplied )
When the COVID-19 situation began to escalate in India, she brought that forward to last week.
But the suspension of flights derailed that within days of her planned departure.
Now, with the ban in place, Kim is stuck in Mumbai indefinitely – with her husband thousands of kilometres away in Perth – a situation she says is devastating.
"I don't know how we can cope with the emotional stress, the financial stress and I don't know how long we can hang in there," she said.
And, with case numbers continuing to surge and thousands of COVID-caused deaths reported each day, Kim said the worries she felt were very real.
"You never know, this could be the last time you are speaking with me," she said.
Critics blast federal government's 'immoral and un-Australian' ban on citizens returning from India
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The federal government's ban on its own citizens returning from India has been described as "immoral and un-Australian", with the former race discrimination commissioner questioning why the subcontinent has been treated differently to other parts of the world that suffered devastating COVID waves.
Key points:
- The rules mean anyone who has been in India within the previous 14 days is prohibited from entering Australia
- Former race discrimination commissioner Tim Soutphommasane said he hoped inconsistencies in the policy were not related to race
- Australians in India say the policy makes them feel "angry, scared and worried"
The rules, described by the government as "drastic but necessary", mean anyone who has been in India within the previous 14 days is prohibited from entering Australia.
Among those critical of the move, which comes into force on Monday and will last until at least May 15, is Kylie Moore-Gilbert — a recently-freed Australian academic who was detained for more than two years in Iran.
"I know what it means to do time for absolutely no reason whatsoever," she tweeted.
"I also know what it means to be rescued from a COVID-riddled overseas hellhole and be brought back to Australia [yes into quarantine].
Some advocates are also questioning whether the ban could potentially be a violation of Australia's international law obligations.
"The section that the minister has made the emergency direction under also requires whatever action is the least restrictive and least intrusive way of dealing with the risk," peak civil rights group Liberty Victoria's president Julia Kretzenbacher said.
"We have hotel quarantine to deal with the risk, so in Liberty Victoria's view the actions taken are not the least restrictive or least intrusive way of protecting Australians."
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The Australian Human Rights Commission says it holds "deep concerns" about the new restrictions' impact on Australians' human rights.
The commission said it was approaching the government directly with its concerns, as well as urging Parliament's Senate Select Committee on COVID-19 to review the restrictions.
"The need for such restrictions must be publicly justified. The government must show that these measures are not discriminatory and the only suitable way of dealing with the threat to public health," it said in a statement.
Former race discrimination commissioner Tim Soutphommasane said there was an inconsistency in the government's policy, that he hoped was not related to race.
"We didn't see differential treatment being extended to countries such as the United States, the UK, and any European country even though the rates of infection were very high and the danger of arrivals from those countries was very high," he said.
The government has acknowledged the policy is difficult but said it was implemented on the back of expert health advice.
"We have taken drastic action to keep Australians safe and what we face in India is a very serious situation where the medical advice has been to put in place these measures," Treasurer Josh Frydenberg said.
"It's temporary, it's based on the medical advice and it will be reviewed on the 15th of May."
Mr Frydenberg described the situation in India as "dire", on the same day the country recorded more than 400,000 COVID-19 cases — a global record.
State and federal leaders, as well as health experts, have voiced growing concerns about the number of cases in Australia's quarantine system from India – in particular after two separate leaks from Perth's hotel set-up in just over a week.
"India is an epicentre of death and destruction as we speak," WA Premier Mark McGowan said last week.
"I don't think there is any need to go to India, I don't."
But for Australians stranded in India, the commentary and the decision-making has been deeply hurtful.
'This could be the last time you are speaking with me'
Kim flew to India after her father's death in December and had been due to fly back to Australia next Tuesday.
When the COVID-19 situation began to escalate in India, she brought that forward to last week.
But the suspension of flights derailed that within days of her planned departure.
Now, with the ban in place, Kim is stuck in Mumbai indefinitely – with her husband thousands of kilometres away in Perth – a situation she says is devastating.
"I don't know how we can cope with the emotional stress, the financial stress and I don't know how long we can hang in there," she said.
And, with case numbers continuing to surge and thousands of COVID-caused deaths reported each day, Kim said the worries she felt were very real.
"You never know, this could be the last time you are speaking with me," she said.
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Professor Paul Kelly provided his advice to the government head of the ban. Picture: Gary Ramage
Professor Paul Kelly provided his advice to the government head of the ban. Picture: Gary RamageSource:News Corp Australia
He said there remained a “significant risk” of spread from Australia’s hotel quarantine system, particularly from arrivals from India.
“Each new case identified in quarantine increases the risk of leakage into the Australian community through transmission to quarantine workers or other quarantined returnees and subsequently into the Australian community more broadly,” he wrote.
“Australia’s quarantine and health resources needed to prevent and control COVID-19 introduced into Australia from international arrivals are limited.
“Due to the high proportion of positive cases arising from arrivals from India, I consider a pause until 15 May 2021 on arrivals from India to be an effective and proportionate measure to maintain the integrity of Australia’s quarantine system. This measure will likely allow the system to recover capacity, which is a critical intervention in preventing and managing the spread of COVID-19 in Australia.”
Professor Kelly noted such a move would be the first time that such a determination had been used to prevent Australian citizens and permanent residents entering Australia.
He also asked for it to become an offence under the Biosecurity Act for anyone who had been in India in the last 14 days to come back to Australia.
But he says he was not involved in the fine and jail time part of the announcement. Picture: David GeraghtySource:News Corp Australia
People who have been in India within the previous fortnight before their intended arrival in Australia will face a $66,600 fine as well as five years’ imprisonment for entering the country.
But Professor Kelly today told Sky News the jail threat was not ordered by him. He said the criminal punishment was a separate part of Australia’s Biosecurity Act, but health authorities had not been asked to advise on that section of the government act.
“Let’s be very clear, we were asked for public health advice on the nature of threat, how long (a measure) was needed, that was the advice given,” he told Sky News.
“We weren’t asked about penalties. I’m an adviser, I don’t make decisions for the government.”
Prime Minister Scott Morrison also defended the government’s move today, slamming any suggestion it was racist and saying he was making the “hard calls” that have helped save 30,000 Australian lives.
Mr Morrison attacked Labor leader Anthony Albanese for “politicising” the flight ban this morning, arguing it was “heartbreaking” but necessary to pause the repatriation flights.
Health workers attend COVID-19 patients inside a centre of the Commonwealth Games village temporarily converted into a COVID care facility in New Delhi. Picture: Tauseef Mustafa/AFPSource:AFP
“We are deeply, deeply concerned about the humanitarian crisis in India. But the best way I can get them safely home is by doing what I am doing right now,’’ the Prime Minister told 2GB radio.
Critics including former race discrimination commissioner Tim Soutphommasane have argued there’s “an inconsistency” in the Indian flight ban given Australia didn’t ban US flights when daily cases were even higher.
That’s prompted Labor to hint the real motivation is racism.
“I have clear advice from the chief medical officer that this is a decision that is supported,” Mr Morrison said.
Health secretary Dr Brendan Murphy told a Senate estimates committee today that the temporary ban was needed to take the pressure off quarantine systems. He said the Howard Springs quarantine centre is at capacity.
“We’ve had more than 50 cases, positive cases nearly all from India and the Territory health system is very concerned about that,” he said.
“So just for a period of time, this is an unprecedented number of positives from one country, it’s just a matter of resetting.”
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Professor Paul Kelly provided his advice to the government head of the ban. Picture: Gary Ramage
Professor Paul Kelly provided his advice to the government head of the ban. Picture: Gary RamageSource:News Corp Australia
He said there remained a “significant risk” of spread from Australia’s hotel quarantine system, particularly from arrivals from India.
“Each new case identified in quarantine increases the risk of leakage into the Australian community through transmission to quarantine workers or other quarantined returnees and subsequently into the Australian community more broadly,” he wrote.
“Australia’s quarantine and health resources needed to prevent and control COVID-19 introduced into Australia from international arrivals are limited.
“Due to the high proportion of positive cases arising from arrivals from India, I consider a pause until 15 May 2021 on arrivals from India to be an effective and proportionate measure to maintain the integrity of Australia’s quarantine system. This measure will likely allow the system to recover capacity, which is a critical intervention in preventing and managing the spread of COVID-19 in Australia.”
Professor Kelly noted such a move would be the first time that such a determination had been used to prevent Australian citizens and permanent residents entering Australia.
He also asked for it to become an offence under the Biosecurity Act for anyone who had been in India in the last 14 days to come back to Australia.
But he says he was not involved in the fine and jail time part of the announcement. Picture: David GeraghtySource:News Corp Australia
People who have been in India within the previous fortnight before their intended arrival in Australia will face a $66,600 fine as well as five years’ imprisonment for entering the country.
But Professor Kelly today told Sky News the jail threat was not ordered by him. He said the criminal punishment was a separate part of Australia’s Biosecurity Act, but health authorities had not been asked to advise on that section of the government act.
“Let’s be very clear, we were asked for public health advice on the nature of threat, how long (a measure) was needed, that was the advice given,” he told Sky News.
“We weren’t asked about penalties. I’m an adviser, I don’t make decisions for the government.”
Prime Minister Scott Morrison also defended the government’s move today, slamming any suggestion it was racist and saying he was making the “hard calls” that have helped save 30,000 Australian lives.
Mr Morrison attacked Labor leader Anthony Albanese for “politicising” the flight ban this morning, arguing it was “heartbreaking” but necessary to pause the repatriation flights.
Health workers attend COVID-19 patients inside a centre of the Commonwealth Games village temporarily converted into a COVID care facility in New Delhi. Picture: Tauseef Mustafa/AFPSource:AFP
“We are deeply, deeply concerned about the humanitarian crisis in India. But the best way I can get them safely home is by doing what I am doing right now,’’ the Prime Minister told 2GB radio.
Critics including former race discrimination commissioner Tim Soutphommasane have argued there’s “an inconsistency” in the Indian flight ban given Australia didn’t ban US flights when daily cases were even higher.
That’s prompted Labor to hint the real motivation is racism.
“I have clear advice from the chief medical officer that this is a decision that is supported,” Mr Morrison said.
Health secretary Dr Brendan Murphy told a Senate estimates committee today that the temporary ban was needed to take the pressure off quarantine systems. He said the Howard Springs quarantine centre is at capacity.
“We’ve had more than 50 cases, positive cases nearly all from India and the Territory health system is very concerned about that,” he said.
“So just for a period of time, this is an unprecedented number of positives from one country, it’s just a matter of resetting.”
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