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Aussie Newspaper say Sinkies are rude - sadly, I agree

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Once again, it takes a foreign publication to point out something that is truthful, whereas our Shit Times will gloss over it.

Singaporeans slammed for being rude in Australian newspaper
By Angela Lim – June 2nd, 2010Email Facebook Twitter Print

It’s no secret that Singapore is a “campaign city”.

The National Courtesy Campaign, Speak Good English Movement, the Singapore Kindness Movement and even toilet campaigns like “Aim Right”, “Wash Your Hands Right”, “Don’t Wet The Floor” are clear testaments to this.

But Sydney Morning Herald writer Tamara Thiessen takes this a step further in a provocative piece entitled “Singaporeans asked to chew on their manners” that was published on the newspaper’s website on May 31.

In it, she questions the level of courtesy and graciousness in Singaporeans as well as how constant reminders to be courteous have to be “thrust down their thoats daily”. The article further goes to portray Singapore as a regimentally law-abiding and clean country, where “happiness and civility need…outside enforcement”.

But despite the city-state’s spick-and-span spaces free of chewing gum and spit, “there is no assurance of finding good manners and a caring society”, she writes.

An IT manager from Sydney who is based in Singapore, Paul Stapleton, is quoted in the article saying, “They (Singaporeans) are the rudest f***ing people I have ever seen; they need some basic training in civic awareness. They don’t feel that anyone else exists outside this tiny island.”

Another long-time British resident staying here added, “The problem is the sole concern of most Singaporeans is money and economic well-being. The only reason the churches here are packed to the rafters is because people attend in order to network.”

General manager of the Singapore Kindness Movement, Teh Thien Yew, is also quoted in the paper as saying, ”Levels of indifference and unhappiness are still high … we are all concerned about graciousness in our country.”

Invariably, every society has its fair share of bad social graces. But is it fair for an Australian or Briton to pass judgement on Singaporeans as a whole based on personal experience and a few opinions?

A 24-year-old Singaporean student, who wanted to be known as Jen, told Yahoo! Singapore that Thiessen’s article is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

“Who is the writer to say that Singaporeans make up an ungracious society? Yes, there may be some rude people in Singapore. But there are always bad eggs in every society. Personally, I’ve met my fair share of rude Australians while studying there, but I don’t dismiss Australia as a country of ungracious people.”

To Singaporeans’ credit, according to the State of Graciousness in Singapore Survey, people here conducted themselves better on public transport over the past year. Also, the country’s “Graciousness Index” — an indication of how citizens rate the level of graciousness within society — climbed 3 points from 58 to 61 in the same time.

Having said that, while Thiessen’s article borders on being one-sided and slightly extreme, could the ugly truth be that she’s actually right?

After all, in the same survey, only 37% out of 1,000 Singaporeans interviewed were happy with the level of graciousness in the city-state.

In light of such harsh criticism, do you agree that the level of courtesy and graciousness in Singapore society leaves much to be desired? Are state campaigns effective in inculcating kindness and consideration in local citizens?
 

tanwahtiu

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Once again, it takes a foreign publication to point out something that is truthful, whereas our Shit Times will gloss over it.

But Sydney Morning Herald writer Tamara Thiessen takes this a step further in a provocative piece entitled “Singaporeans asked to chew on their manners” that was published on the newspaper’s website on May 31.

This bitch should clean her mouth and be stuff with her Ozzies fucking rip off society. THere are 150,000 cases of Aussies married woman who give her husband restrain orders (DAVO) and als jailed her husbands for breaching the Orders. How rude can fucking Aussies get!

In it, she questions the level of courtesy and graciousness in Singaporeans as well as how constant reminders to be courteous have to be “thrust down their thoats daily”. The article further goes to portray Singapore as a regimentally law-abiding and clean country, where “happiness and civility need…outside enforcement”.

Who is the writer to say that Singaporeans make up an ungracious society? Yes, there may be some rude people in Singapore. But there are always bad eggs in every society. Personally, I’ve met my fair share of rude Australians while studying there, but I don’t dismiss Australia as a country of ungracious people.”

Aussies are the most intimidating people in thre world. These angry arseholes white trashs knows how to use anger to provoke a fight to meet you at cul de sac and intimidate you with harassment and threats in the name of Play God. They play God to intimidate, harass and threaten you.
 

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Unfortunately, that is true about most Singaporeans.

In fact, it took me a while to get used to and responding with "Please", "Thank You", "May I", along with a smile and eye contact when I first went abroad for my studies.

After it became a habit, I've always found that such simple gestures go a LONG way with how service staff, people in general, respond in kind, even nowadays when I return to Singapore.

But I don't see why the Ang Mo is complaining, because Singaporeans in general do respond in their own way to simple gestures of genuine courtesy, unless he is in some high-pressure job where there is a Singaporean above him squeezing every drop of work out of him or just some low life peon on an employment pass.
 

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Once again, it takes a foreign publication to point out something that is truthful, whereas our Shit Times will gloss over it.

But Sydney Morning Herald writer Tamara Thiessen takes this a step further in a provocative piece entitled “Singaporeans asked to chew on their manners” that was published on the newspaper’s website on May 31.

This bitch should clean her mouth and be stuff with her Ozzies fucking rip off society. THere are 150,000 cases of Aussies married woman who give her husband restrain orders (DAVO) and als jailed her husbands for breaching the Orders. How rude can fucking Aussies get!

In it, she questions the level of courtesy and graciousness in Singaporeans as well as how constant reminders to be courteous have to be “thrust down their thoats daily”. The article further goes to portray Singapore as a regimentally law-abiding and clean country, where “happiness and civility need…outside enforcement”.

Who is the writer to say that Singaporeans make up an ungracious society? Yes, there may be some rude people in Singapore. But there are always bad eggs in every society. Personally, I’ve met my fair share of rude Australians while studying there, but I don’t dismiss Australia as a country of ungracious people.”

Aussies are the most intimidating people in thre world. These angry arseholes white trashs knows how to use anger to provoke a fight to meet you at cul de sac and intimidate you with harassment and threats in the name of Play God. They play God to intimidate, harass and threaten you.

Please lah, we are talking about rudeness, don't go off topic with your restraining orders and what not.
 

Watchman

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I think a whole majority of Singaporeans are stupid instead of being rude .

Stupid as being inexperience , lack social graces or simply indifferent .

Rude is being purposeful and straight to the point .
 

Wang Ye

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Actually it is all about something to do for the vast numbers of overpaid underworked civil servants. If not for all these dumb campaigns they would have nothing to do and that does not look good. :biggrin:
 

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Actually it is all about something to do for the vast numbers of overpaid underworked civil servants. If not for all these dumb campaigns they would have nothing to do and that does not look good. :biggrin:

It is true, civil service and stat boards can easily cut 50% of their workforce and still survive.
 

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Instead of defense of Singaporeans overseas...

Mostly forum participants here choose to add salt to the wound.

When some biased views being published overseas, some people in this thread actually agree with it.

I really don't think so.

RUDE?

I believe RUDE is truly not in the nature of Singaporeans. Singaporeans are generally kind hearted natured.

And I do feel the difference every time when I am home.

The word is, smile, and the world smile with you.

The word is, love, and the world love you back.

RUDE is to the eye of the beholder. I can guess that Tamara writer is a rude bitch herself, therefore getting rude treatment from fellow Singaporeans.

Would you treat a nice fellow with rudeness? In another words, would you treat a bastard with a smile?

Cheers
 

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true lah

singaporean staff complain like hell. if waiter, cannot help in kitchen. if cashier, cannot help with waitering

singaporean customer complain like hell, even credit card maxed out claim machine spoiled

best is prc and pinoy staff and prc customer - like heaven sent
 

Aussie Pete

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MyPaper -10th June, 2010

'rude' wrap doesn't reflect all aussies' views

I WAS deeply disappointed to read Jamie Yeo’s commentary, “S’poreans rude? This is why…” (my paper, June 8).

The Sydney Morning Herald article, “Singaporeans asked to chew on their manners”, was insensitive and inaccurate.

Also, the views of Mr Paul Stapleton, who said that Singaporeans were the rudest people he had ever seen, in no way reflect the attitudes or beliefs of
the majority of Australians.

Having said that, Yeo’s comments are disturbing on a number of levels.

Two wrongs will never make a right. By slamming all Aussies as judgmental, Yeo is employing the same tactics as Mr Stapleton.

She also takes it a step further by making a comment on Australians’ heritage.

Perhaps a history lesson is in order – not all early Australians were transported convicts.

Then, perhaps a social-studies lesson, too – a huge number of Australians today are of mixed heritage. Whether it be Caucasian, indigenous Australian,
Asian, African or Indian, they are a mixed bunch.

Generalising about the people of a country based on the comments or views of an individual or small group of people will never fly in today’s global community.

Unfortunately, there are a few who seek to create controversy out of negative news.

A perfect example is the bad publicity Australia received in the global media because of politician Pauline Hanson’s anti-immigration stance.

While her views were not those of mainstream Australia, this was not how it was portrayed in the international media.

I have lived in Singapore for four years and my family and I love life here.

We have done everything in our power to integrate into the local community.

The many close Singaporean friends we have made, and their families, are the complete opposite of the grumpy and rude people Yeo describes in her
article.

Most Singaporeans are caring, thoughtful and happy people living life to the fullest.

Singapore is beautiful in its own way – culturally and aesthetically.

I grew up in the tropical humidity of Queensland and can vouch that picturesque hills, casinos and apartment sizes do not determine happiness.

Life is what you make of it.

Happiness is a result of your attitude.

What you put into your relationships is usually what will be returned.

Yeo has every right to be angry about Mr Stapleton’s comments, but assuming that he reflects Australians’ views is just like the pot calling the kettle black.
 

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Singapore Kindness Movement? A person can be kind but brashful and uncivilised in behaviour. Equating kindness with courtesy is certainly wrong.
 
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S'poreans slammed for being rude


Jun 10, 2010
S'poreans slammed for being rude

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RUDE, 'rigorously controlled at the expense of humanitarian values' and 'state-waged campaigns' to regulate behaviour. These are some of the criticisms levelled on Singaporeans by an Australian journalist, Tamara Thiessen, in an article 'Singaporeans asked to chew on their manners' for The Sydney Morning Herald. Understandably, this put many Singaporeans on the defensive. Citizen journalists rallied on online portal STOMP, verifying Singaporeans as gracious and more than willing to extend help to their neighbours.

STOMPer aidiero1 had an interesting spin: 'Singaporeans are not rude, they're simply 'bochup', and just don't care enough what other people think. In other words, they do it unconsciously.' STOMP Star Blogger Ju-Len also pointed out that a recent Reader's Digest survey ranked Singapore higher than a number of cosmopolitan cities for courtesy. These countries included Seoul, Kuala Lumpur, Bucharest and Mumbai.


 
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