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Goh chok tong says must implement maximum wage to attract talent to join PAP.
 
Don't be stupid la!

Min wage will create hike in prices of ALL FUCKING ITEMS. U bunch of imbeciles in here are truly retarded Opposition supporters. Have u morons been to New York where the min wage is high?

The level of stupidity and ignorance in this forum is shocking. Have u been to Europe? Work for an international firm? Know currency movements?
 
Fully support the PAP regarding minimum wage. It has been a disaster everywhere it has been implemented.

The most obvious effect it has is that it causes price hikes which largely negate the higher take home pay.

Every time the minimum wage is increased in NZ prices rise in the supermarkets, government services and in all the essential trade services to the point where the additional earnings are all but wiped out.

The minimum wage earners end up back at square one till the next hike and the whole process then repeats itself.
 
Where you have an influx of cheap labour from overseas, it is technically impossible to impose minimum wage laws.

How would then pay a filipino maid or the Bangala FT min wage?
 
the case in seattle proves minimum wage is a disaster.

Seattle's Minimum Wage Has Been a Disaster, as the City's Own Study Confirms
How Seattle provides a practical example of minimum wages leading to losses in income and employment
Tuesday, June 27, 2017
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The Seattle Minimum Wage Study, a study supported and funded in part by the Seattle city government, is out with a new NBER paper evaluating Seattle’s minimum wage increase to $13 an hour and it finds significant disemployment effects that on net reduce the incomes of minimum wage workers. I farm this one out to Jonathan Meer on FB.

This is the official study that was commissioned several years ago by the city of Seattle to study the impacts of raising the minimum wage, in a move that I applauded at the time as an honest and transparent attempt towards self-examination of a bold policy. It is the first study of a very high city-level minimum wage, with administrative data that has much more detail than is usually available. The first wave (examining the increase to $11/hr) last year was a mixed bag, with fairly imprecise estimates.
These findings, examining another year of data and including the increase to $13/hr, are unequivocal: the policy is an unmitigated disaster. The main findings:
– The numbers of hours worked by low-wage workers fell by *3.5 million hours per quarter*. This was reflected both in thousands of job losses and reductions in hours worked by those who retained their jobs.
– The losses were so dramatic that this increase “reduced income paid to low-wage employees of single-location Seattle businesses by roughly $120 million on an annual basis.” On average, low-wage workers *lost* $125 per month. The minimum wage has always been a lousy income transfer program, but at this level you’d come out ahead just setting a hundred million dollars a year on fire. And that’s before we get into who kept vs lost their jobs.
– Estimates of the response of labor demand are substantially higher than much of the previous research, which may have been expected given how much higher (and how localized) this minimum wage is relative to previously-studied ones.
– The impacts took some time to be reflected in the level of employment, as predicted by Meer and West (2016).
– The authors are able to replicate the results of other papers that find no impact on the restaurant industry with their own data by imposing the same limitations that other researchers have faced. This shows that those papers’ findings were likely driven by their data limitations. This is an important thing to remember as you see knee-jerk responses coming from the usual corners.
– You may also hear that the construction of the comparison group was flawed somehow, and that’s driving the results. I believe that the research team did as good of a job as possible, trying several approaches and presenting all of their findings extensively. There is no cherry-picking here. But more importantly, without getting too deep into the econometric weeds, my sense is that, given the evolution of the Seattle economy over the past two years, these results – if anything – *understate* the extent of the job losses.
This paper not only makes numerous valuable contributions to the economics literature, but should give serious pause to minimum wage advocates. Of course, that’s not what’s happening, to the extent that the mayor of Seattle commissioned *another* study, by an advocacy group at Berkeley whose previous work on the minimum wage is so consistently one-sided that you can set your watch by it, that unsurprisingly finds no effect. They deliberately timed its release for several days before this paper came out, and I find that whole affair abhorrent. Seattle politicians are so unwilling to accept reality that they’ll undermine their own researchers and waste taxpayer dollars on what is barely a cut above propaganda.
I don’t envy the backlash this team is going to face for daring to present results that will be seen as heresy. I know that so many people just desperately want to believe that the minimum wage is a free lunch. It’s not. These job losses will only get worse as the minimum wage climbs higher, and this team is working on linking to demographic data to examine who the losers from this policy are. I fully expect that these losses are borne most heavily by low-income and minority households.
https://fee.org/articles/seattles-minimum-wage-has-been-a-disaster-as-the-citys-own-study-confirms/
How Seattle's Higher Minimum Wage Hurts Those It's Meant To Help
  • 6/27/2017
Minimum Wage: When Seattle embarked on its progressive path to force up the minimum wage in the city, the results were predictable: Those it was intended to help would be hurt the most. Will policymakers never learn?
It's tragic, but even policies passed with the best of intentions can hurt those they're intended to help. So it is with Seattle's minimum wage.
Last August, we asked: "What will happen when Seattle raises its minimum to $15 an hour in 2017? It could get ugly."
Unfortunately, we were right. Economists at the University of Washington looked at the recent increases in Seattle's minimum wage from $9.47 to $11 an hour in 2015 to $13 an hour in 2016.
Their findings are devastating for supporters of a higher minimum wage.
"We conclude that the second wage increase to $13 reduced hours worked in low-wage jobs by around 9%, while hourly wages in such jobs increased by around 3%."
The math is not favorable: The average low-wage employee in the city saw his or her earnings decline by $125 a month last year due to the "generous" minimum wage increase.
That's a $1,500 reduction in pay for those who can afford it least. It's likely to get even worse when they really jack the wage up to $15 an hour, and hundreds if not thousands of people lose their jobs because their employers can no longer afford to pay them.
Even the Washington Post took notice of the Seattle minimum-wage disaster, and what it portends.
"The city is gradually increasing the hourly minimum to $15 over several years," wrote Max Ehrenfreund on the Post's Wonkblog . "Already, though, some employers have not been able to afford the increased minimums. They've cut their payrolls, putting off new hiring, reducing hours or letting their workers go, the study found."
It's a fact that those who earn minimum wages are not equipped to earn more without further training, education or skills acquisition.
As economist Mark J. Perry, a fellow with the American Enterprise Institute and professor at the University of Michigan, noted back in 2015, "minimum-wage workers tend to be young, single, part-time workers with less than a high school diploma."
What do you call people of that description after government forces a business to pay them far more than their productivity suggests they're worth? Disposable.
They lose jobs, or have their hours cut. It's devastating.
Nor is the University of Washington study some kind of statistical outlier.
In what has turned into an indictment of the union-backed "Fight for $15" movement, a study by economist David Neumark of the University of California at Irvine tallied the results of over 100 minimum-wage studies going back two decades.
His findings were depressing: 85% of the studies said that minimum-wage laws destroyed jobs, led to fewer hours worked, and caused small businesses to close. So saying huge forced hikes in the minimum wage destroy jobs and reduce earnings isn't exactly controversial.
Even the federal government, which itself imposes a national minimum wage on businesses, understands this. A 2014 study by the Congressional Budget Office predicted that raising the minimum wage from $7.25 an hour to $10.10 an hour and indexing it to inflation would kill 1 million jobs.
Who is hurt worst? Young minority workers, African-Americans and Latinos, mostly. Statistically, they have the least education, training and skills of any group in the workforce.
If you wonder why the youth unemployment rate for minority youth remains stuck in the double digits, look no farther than the minimum wage.
A job provides a ladder of opportunity to gain work and life skills and training that ultimately can lead to better things down the road. But what happens when the ladder is removed?
Responding to growing pressure around the country and the prospect of a national $15-an-hour minimum wage, companies such as Wal-Mart, McDonald's, Wendy's and many others today are busy automating their operations, installing digital cashiers in place of human ones, and looking for other ways to cut swelling labor costs.
It's a logical and inevitable response to soaring wages for unskilled workers.
With thousands and thousands losing their jobs, the progressive Democrats and union activists who are behind the "Fight for $15" movement and many local minimum-wage-hiking initiatives have much to answer for.
They talk a great game about helping the poor and uneducated better their lives, but then push destructive policies that ensure those very same people lose their jobs and end up on welfare.
"Fight for $15"? How about a new movement, one based not on destroying jobs and reducing incomes, but on creating jobs and raising workers' earnings. Call it "Fight Against $15."
https://www.investors.com/politics/...-wage-disaster-hurts-those-its-meant-to-help/
 
The whole idea of having a high minimum wage is to get rid of low paying workers and replace it with automation.
 
The whole idea of having a high minimum wage is to get rid of low paying workers and replace it with automation.

Add to that the fact that many IT jobs can be outsourced overseas with a click of a mouse.
 
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SINGAPORE: Implementing a minimum wage in Singapore to address concerns about inequality could ultimately lead to lower levels of employment and workers turning to illegal jobs, Manpower Minister Josephine Teo said on Friday (Oct 26).

Speaking about class disparities at a dialogue organised by the Institute of Policy Studies (IPS), Mrs Teo said that one "big worry" about inequality is the risk of disadvantage becoming entrenched in poorer households in Singapore.

To address such concerns, there have been calls to implement a minimum wage “to uplift disadvantaged workers”, she said.

But Mrs Teo, who is also Second Minister for Home Affairs, said a minimum wage may force employers to “pay more than the market rate for some types of labour”. This will result in a “tax” effect, with lowest-waged workers attracting the highest “tax”.

“Not all employers would want to employ workers at this rate, which could lead to lower levels of employment. To secure jobs, some workers may choose to work illegally below the minimum wage, which makes them even more vulnerable,” she said in her opening remarks of the dialogue.

She noted that the Government has instead implemented measures such as the Workfare Income Supplement, a scheme that tops up the income of low-wage workers, “thereby achieving the same uplift as a minimum wage”.


“But there’s a crucial difference - the cost is borne by the Government, with no risk of inducing unemployment or illegal employment of such workers."

READ: 'We must not allow social stratification to harden in Singapore', says PM Lee
The Progressive Wage Model (PWM) could also be a better solution to increasing wages sustainably, she said.

“Unlike minimum wage which specifies a floor, PWM specifies a ladder. In fact, there are four inter-linked ladders for skills, jobs, productivity and wages.

“Under PWM, a worker can be paid a higher wage on the basis of his improved skills, enlarged job or heightened productivity. The rungs of the ladder provide an upward path, so the worker is not stuck earning minimum wages,” she added.

GOVERNMENT "NOT IDEOLOGICALLY OPPOSED TO MINIMUM WAGE"

During the dialogue session, IPS' special adviser Professor Tommy Koh, who was in the audience, pointed out how Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong implemented a minimum wage without the consequences of unemployment or workers turning to illegal jobs.

In addressing this point, Mrs Teo recalled that during her visit to Hong Kong, soon after a minimum wage was implemented, she learnt of an elderly condominium security officer who was displaced by a younger person. The building management had “expressed a preference” for the younger employee for the same minimum wage, she said.

But Mrs Teo stated that the Government is "not ideologically opposed" to a minimum wage and that in certain areas where the labour market is tight, "there is room for us to do something".


Nominated Member of Parliament Walter Theseira, who was also on stage for the dialogue, said that the effect of a minimum wage across different economies was mixed.

“I think it’s obviously true if you have very large and binding minimum wage that introduces undesirable rigidity into the labour market, that will have undesirable consequences … (and) create some deadweight losses,” said the Singapore University of Social Sciences professor.

“But at the same time, it’s possible for calibrated minimum wages to fulfil a similar role in the market as strong unions might.

“It helps to address basic asymmetry that exists in many labour markets between workers and employers. I think the reality is many workers are not aware of their rights if they are not operating in solidarity and they have little bargaining power and they are often in a take-it-or-leave-it position,” Associate Professor Theseira added.

Prof Koh also asked a question about why Singapore’s income profile today “looks more like a pear than an olive”, with a large number of people “at the bottom”.

Mrs Teo replied that this was “a problem of success”.

“It is because a system has been built up to enable large swathes of people to move up to middle or to upper middle … and this group has expanded. With each successful cohort, the parents want to expand on that advantage. It’s something that is very difficult to overcome,” she said.

“I think the honest way of dealing with it is to say that the journey ahead is going to be harder than what it was in the past. If we fail to recognise that then I think we will never be able to find a way to bridge (the gap),” she added.

The dialogue at Marina Bay Sands was part of an event held by the IPS to mark its 30th anniversary.


Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...ad-to-lower-employment-josephine-teo-10866548
 
Minimum wage will not work in Singapore. If introduced, the minimum wage of our million dollar ministers would be 2 million to attract top talents. Let's keep it to 2 million and below. Long live PAP. Huat ahhhhhhh
 
This type of standard can be Minister then our Madam Harimau President can also aspire to become the next UN secretary-general! :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
 
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