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No mention of NS as usual again.

Jul 8, 2010

Foreigners are not why we don't do well

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MS RACHEL Chang's commentary on Monday ('Life is tough at 24 with Us and Them') was ironic, amusing - and self-contradictory.
She writes that she and her sister studied or worked overseas; yet, she suffers anxiety attacks when foreigners do the same in Singapore.
She believes that the anti-foreigner sentiment comes from the sense of national identity among Singaporeans. In truth, many young Singaporeans think of themselves as Chinese, Indian or Malay first, Singaporean second. Many Singaporeans feel more comfortable speaking to someone of the same race from China or India than a Singaporean of a different race.
By comparison, America, with its notoriously strong sense of national identity, has long welcomed people from different countries with tolerance.
If anything, anxiety about foreigners may come from the Singaporean's frail sense of national identity.
Foreigners have two important advantages. First, at age 13, my first job was picking up rubbish at a carpark. This was followed by cleaning toilets, stocking vegetables at supermarkets and cooking smelly fish, among others. From my teenage years to university graduation, everyone I knew did humble jobs during school holidays and sometimes while studying too.
By comparison, I have met many young Singaporeans who are embarrassed to be seen doing this type of work. Many parents say the same thing for their children.
When humble work is seen as humiliation rather than dignity, foreigners who are brought up to be self-reliant with their own hands will enjoy a massive advantage.
As for the notion of facing competition from foreigners, I venture that there is none, not between people who are willing to get their hands dirty and those who think they are too good to clean toilets.
Also, foreigners who move to Singapore must be disciplined to make sure they can pay household bills with some savings left over.
Many 20-something Singaporeans live with their parents and spend up to 90 per cent of their salaries on Louis Vuitton handbags, chic mobile phones, expensive dresses, cars and the like. If uncorrected, this can make the younger generation less responsible than foreign workers who were forced to get serious with their lives when they moved overseas.
At the end of the day, there is no 'us' or 'them'. There is only 'you' - and your willingness to take responsibility for your own life.
Eric J. Brooks
 
'I don't think we experience any less hardship than Singaporeans.'
MR SUN ZHONGJI: 'I refer to Monday's article by Ms Rachel Chang ('Life is tough at 24 with Us and Them'). As a foreign student who has spent the last four years studying in Singapore, I'm not denying that foreigners can score well in exams, if not excel; many job opportunities are being taken away by us. Nevertheless, I don't think we experience any less hardship than Singaporeans. This includes coming to a foreign land at a young age and bearing the pain of loneliness and unfamiliarity while struggling with our studies.

=> But no NS + reserve service, right?

I really appreciate the chance to study here and wonder what foreigners like me can do to improve the situation. Foreigners should try to emulate our Singaporean friends' culture and behaviour; at the same time, I also hope that they, in turn, could view us as a help to the country rather than a disaster to their own economic well-being.'
 
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<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=heading>Latest comments</TD></TR><TR><TD id=messageDisplayRegion width="100%"><TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left><TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left><TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" class=Post cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left>On the other hand, I think young Americans are more 'reckless' with their expenses, compared with young Singaporeans. The recent US financial crisis clearly reveals that. So, Brooks' attempts to compare us with the Americans when supporting his point truly baffles me.
</TD></TR><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left>Posted by: GhostRider666 at Thu Jul 08 18:46:34 SGT 2010
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left><TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left><TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" class=AlternatePost cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left>And, where did Brooks get his 'many young Singaporeans spend 90% of their salaries on luxury goods'? I thought many of them spent on paying their study loans, instalments for their apartments, medical bills, utility bills etc. From his comments, he doesn't seem to know Singaporeans all that well.
</TD></TR><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left>Posted by: GhostRider666 at Thu Jul 08 18:42:38 SGT 2010
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left><TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left><TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" class=Post cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left>Not everyone thinks that Americans welcome or love foreigners despite his assumption that Americans have stronger sense of national identity (given that we often read of Americans training in Afghanistan to kill their countrymen or fight against America).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/p...gn-policy.html
</TD></TR><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left>Posted by: GhostRider666 at Thu Jul 08 18:39:00 SGT 2010
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left><TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left><TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" class=AlternatePost cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left>Mr Brooks is using his unsubstantiated opinions to support another of his opinion (ie. 'America is more welcoming towards foreigners' and that 90% of our young spend their salaries on luxury goods'.).
</TD></TR><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left>Posted by: GhostRider666 at Thu Jul 08 18:37:41 SGT 2010
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left><TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left><TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" class=Post cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left>Dear Ilovesingapore13, please don't compare Singapore with other city with 40% or 50% immigrant, because they are cities of big country. Singapore is a city but it is also a country. Governing a city is different from governing a country.
</TD></TR><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left>Posted by: Goodman12345 at Thu Jul 08 18:26:41 SGT 2010
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