After 52 years, PAP suddenly asking for feedbacl form citizens in open forum

[scroobal]

After half a century the PAP suddenly asking the Singaporeans for feedback. In the past, they created the feedback unit, Reach and various communities and stat boards and now they are going directly to the man on the ground. What happened. Does it take the loss of 2 cabinet minister and a senior minister of state and the loss of 5 seats to come to one senses.

It was only recently the fucking old man screwed Viswa Sadasivam interestingly of Feedback Unit fame and threw away his comments to the wind.

When Catherine Lim wrote 2 articles and expressed his view, he threathened to bring out his knuckleduster and to teach her lesson in cul de sac.

When Lily Neo pleaded for the poor, his minister screwed the shit out of her.

What next - do the imaginable and dissolve People Association and get rid of the leaches called grassroots leaders. Sack the Chua sisters and close down SPH.

 

[steffychun]

After half a century the PAP suddenly asking the Singaporeans for feedback. In the past, they created the feedback unit, Reach and various communities and stat boards and now they are going directly to the man on the ground. What happened. Does it take the loss of 2 cabinet minister and a senior minister of state and the loss of 5 seats to come to one senses.

It was only recently the fucking old man screwed Viswa Sadasivam interestingly of Feedback Unit fame and threw away his comments to the wind.

When Catherine Lim wrote 2 articles and expressed his view, he threathened to bring out his knuckleduster and to teach her lesson in cul de sac.

When Lily Neo pleaded for the poor, his minister screwed the shit out of her.

What next - do the imaginable and dissolve People Association and get rid of the leaches called grassroots leaders. Sack the Chua sisters and close down SPH.

You dissolve PA, whee will Yam Ah Mee work in?

 

[Papsmearer]

After half a century the PAP suddenly asking the Singaporeans for feedback. In the past, they created the feedback unit, Reach and various communities and stat boards and now they are going directly to the man on the ground. What happened. Does it take the loss of 2 cabinet minister and a senior minister of state and the loss of 5 seats to come to one senses.

It was only recently the fucking old man screwed Viswa Sadasivam interestingly of Feedback Unit fame and threw away his comments to the wind.

When Catherine Lim wrote 2 articles and expressed his view, he threathened to bring out his knuckleduster and to teach her lesson in cul de sac.

When Lily Neo pleaded for the poor, his minister screwed the shit out of her.

What next - do the imaginable and dissolve People Association and get rid of the leaches called grassroots leaders. Sack the Chua sisters and close down SPH.

Why u believe this kind of wayang? It will snow in singapore before the PAP is really serious about feedback from the peasants.

 

[hairylee]

My views are worth $100 000 per feedback.
They are long term views and needs 20 years to see results, just like all GIC and Temasek investments.

 

[Devil Within]

Without fierce competition from the oppositions, you think they will bothered? Hence, even in politics, competitions brings benefit to the citizens (consumers). Free market principle works well in all areas.

 

[annexa]

scroobal, actually the problem is the solution. or rather the solution is the problem. the pap uses pa for grassroots feedback. they make it a national system so that nobody can say it is party line since pap happens to be the gahment. the only thing we can criticise is oppos area the grassroot work for pap appointed candidates.

The solution for pap to make sure got ground harmony and feedback is the grassroot system. but over the years they make the grc system. when mp can get "safe ride" they start to take it easier than last time. grassroot instead of serve citizen feedback, later slowly become more serve mp and disseminate "national policy". the more unhappy of us have call it propaganda, but really it is individual perception. and here is the problem. the feedback no longer is people to mp, but become reverse become loudhailer from mp to people. this is why pap lost (or win) so badly this round.

over the years because of being monoploy, the grassroots also become more slack and tired. more is become tired and maybe lack passion because they no longer need to do much and still can survive well as organisation. lack of competition is become a bad thing instead of a good thing.

now the younger voters come up, are used to having no feedback channel. they no longer want to talk to the grassroot who want to pump them with "national policy". that is why the younger voters turn to internet and some even form their own groups. the 2011 erection also got reports that there got a very small number grassroot "defect" to oppos. but cannot say they "defect" since it is a "national grassroot" which has no political affinity so they are free to choose. a lot of younger voter vote oppo also because they dulan this kind of grassroot system that they feel is unfair and use country money to help party appointed candidate.

what I see PM Lee challenege is he dare to dismantle this and make it at least LOOK more fair or not. what I can suggest PM Lee do is retain this as national system. but since it is national system, it cannot "own" grassroots. pa is can become like the master charity like that. control the rules, regulations and resources. the grassroot is become party own one. so the pa is like register whichever party want to have grassroot in the area. the grassroot all operated by the party will have meeting with pa every month to report transparency and feedback. pa will approve funding and cc whatever facility booking or event for grassroot event.

like this it become fair. but actually give pap the upperhand. because all grassroot is now belong pap. the oppos will not have enough grassroot in all area and will show up badly. then got competition possiblity will make the grassroot work more for resident. like this also better for resident as more grassroot there for them to join and become active.

but I think PM will not do like this. already the pay cut he facing so many resistant. if now he do this refrom to grassroot, he will face revolt in party. he is between rock and hard place. must and need to reform, but cannot move too much because party resistant, so will get public criticise say he not sincere to change.

 

[wikiphile]

We all know this will be in the end an exercise in futility, the last attempt was a stillborn and the administrators of REACH choose to answer whenever they are comfortable on FB. I would imagine that the feedback is still selectively sent to the top.

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