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Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJazeera

iamtalkinglah

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Brothers see the videos in this thread http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?p=387142&posted=1#post387142.

This is not just a political issue. It affects our daily lives!!!

1) Why do the gov't need to spend $ to integrate the new citizens with the old citizens? E.g FREE ENGLISH COURSES?

Because they let uneducated people be the new Citizen. Correct me if I am wrong, if you are educated, how would you not be able to speak English?

2) There is no guarantee that talent PRs will stay in Singapore forever. E.g. Molecular biologist, Shi Yigong. See http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/07/wo...07scholar.html.

Therefore, one day we may be "betrayed" by these PRs.

3) Which country in the world have >1/3 of foreigners? Is there a better solution to solve the problem of not having enough people? I don't know because I am not that smart. That is the gov't's job. Aren't them supposed to lead us and solve the problem?

4) I don't consider myself the highly skilled which Singapore lacks and definitely I am not in the low-skilled low paying job. But I am one example whereby almost half of my colleagues are foreigners. So I don't buy this story that Singaporeans accepts foreign workers in the two extreme spectrum of the job market.

5) What the ang mo said is true- Studies have shown that immigration is most successful, when you have many different groups from many different countries instead of from one big group from one same country.

6) Of course the govt decline to be interview in this show. Will kana shoot like siao!
 

tonychat

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

THe sinkie govt do not know how to handle educated people, they are only able to handle people who are 3rd world or who are sinkies.
 

popdod

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

Part 1

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Part 2.

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:biggrin: :p :biggrin:
 

popdod

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

Lazy to see the video??
Nebermind....i summarised for you.






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Taxi shushu compraining Ah Tiongs bring their Tiong kok attitude & culture
to sinkapore.....and Ah tiongs think sinkapore ish rike china...rike to bargain taxi fares.




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Chio chio lawyer zeh zeh comprain Ah Tiongs dunnose how to speak english..
fedup with the services liao!



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Sinkie employer think FTs are cheaper, better & faster....
coz sinkies rike to comprain salary too low, hours too long.




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Son of late JBJ think sinkapore should hab minimum wages for sinkies
coz FTs depress wages liao...




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Taxi shushu oso agreed wor.




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But but but....Ah Tiong Bu think otherwise....
she said...sinkies shd be grateful that gahmen is treating them goot.
coz she find the pay ish bery bery goot....

(i think she ish indirectly telling sinkies..... Wake up chiur idea!)
 

popdod

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

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Another Tiong Bu say....sinkies r bery arrogant....
rike to look down on Ah Tiongs...think they are poor..
but hello!!! We r rich Ah Tiongs.....Arh boh...u think HDB prices how come ghost up?



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Another Elite Ah Tiong oso concur......
Rook down on us???
Hello.....i cum here and teach law wan ok....
Depart my law knowledge to sinkies......i ish talented hor.




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Ya lor...says another Ah Tiong.
I cum here study wif scholarship....and even now I'm a PR
i will neber treat Sinkapore my home.......
here ish only 2nd home.....
earn enough $$$....i ghost back home.
hahahahha.




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Ex-NMP sighed....
Without minimum wages....sinkies will be disadvantaged.
and
not forgetting...sinkies ginnas must go thru NS...wasted 2 goot ears for nothing.
by the time they ghost uni and cums out work....
they lost their competitiveness......




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Ang Moh elite thinks over dependent on 1 group of FT ish notch goot...
but
sinkapore cannot be shut door rike jippun......coz we r a small [strike]country[/strike] company..
in need of FTs to help us grow.




Be grateful & thankful.....
we hab Ah Tiongs and other FTs help us.


:o :biggrin: :o
 

iamtalkinglah

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

lazy to see the video??
Nebermind....i summarised for you.






2hqxe1g.jpg


taxi shushu compraining ah tiongs bring their tiong kok attitude & culture
to sinkapore.....and ah tiongs think sinkapore ish rike china...rike to bargain taxi fares.




2zody8p.jpg


chio chio lawyer zeh zeh comprain ah tiongs dunnose how to speak english..
Fedup with the services liao!



2z7eko9.jpg


sinkie employer think fts are cheaper, better & faster....
Coz sinkies rike to comprain salary too low, hours too long.




2daeump.jpg


son of late jbj think sinkapore should hab minimum wages for sinkies
coz fts depress wages liao...




14dhop2.jpg


taxi shushu oso agreed wor.




jb2sn6.jpg


but but but....ah tiong bu think otherwise....
She said...sinkies shd be grateful that gahmen is treating them goot.
Coz she find the pay ish bery bery goot....

(i think she ish indirectly telling sinkies..... Wake up chiur idea!)

:d omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good job brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:d
 

Highfalutin

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

Despite it all, if the PAP do not win the next General Election without conceding a single GRC, Nimpeh tok tiow! My hand of course.
 

nickers9

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

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You think I give a fuck to the local Sinkies? I dont give a damn to them.

I imported so many foreigners and converted them into Singaporeans easily is because I must make sure I will still win in the next election.

Cause I know the local stupid Sinkies are sick of me and all the trash that I poured out to them. So in order to avoid the stupid local Sinkies from voting me out in the next election, I have no choice but to import the same amount of foreigners and convert them into Singaporeans so that I can be very sure that you will still see me and my PAP holding powers for the next 20 years in the parliment.

Thinking of that always makes me smile and happy!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
 

iamtalkinglah

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

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You think I give a fuck to the local Sinkies? I dont give a damn to them.

I imported so many foreigners and converted them into Singaporeans easily is because I must make sure I will still win in the next election.

Cause I know the local stupid Sinkies are sick of me and all the trash that I poured out to them. So in order to avoid the stupid local Sinkies from voting me out in the next election, I have no choice but to import the same amount of foreigners and convert them into Singaporeans so that I can be very sure that you will still see me and my PAP holding powers for the next 20 years in the parliment.

Thinking of that always makes me smile and happy!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Shit! I am getting worried because of your posting! :smile:
 

mscitw

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

It has half breed Viv who suggested spending 10 million peanuts to intergrate foreign peasants.

He is the ultimate vermin in 2009 for such a idiot idea.

However if one knows he is a cross between a neh and chink, it becomes clear why this vermin suggested such a vile idea.

Cross breeding between chinks and nehs usually churn out traitors.
 

jerry

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

How did you guess there are some people who are too lazy to watch the whole video?

Good job, by the way. Thank you for the summary :biggrin:


Lazy to see the video??
Nebermind....i summarised for you.






2hqxe1g.jpg


Taxi shushu compraining Ah Tiongs bring their Tiong kok attitude & culture
to sinkapore.....and Ah tiongs think sinkapore ish rike china...rike to bargain taxi fares.




2zody8p.jpg


Chio chio lawyer zeh zeh comprain Ah Tiongs dunnose how to speak english..
fedup with the services liao!



2z7eko9.jpg


Sinkie employer think FTs are cheaper, better & faster....
coz sinkies rike to comprain salary too low, hours too long.




2daeump.jpg


Son of late JBJ think sinkapore should hab minimum wages for sinkies
coz FTs depress wages liao...




14dhop2.jpg


Taxi shushu oso agreed wor.




jb2sn6.jpg


But but but....Ah Tiong Bu think otherwise....
she said...sinkies shd be grateful that gahmen is treating them goot.
coz she find the pay ish bery bery goot....

(i think she ish indirectly telling sinkies..... Wake up chiur idea!)
 

pallkia

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

It has half breed Viv who suggested spending 10 million peanuts to intergrate foreign peasants.

He is the ultimate vermin in 2009 for such a idiot idea.

However if one knows he is a cross between a neh and chink, it becomes clear why this vermin suggested such a vile idea.

Cross breeding between chinks and nehs usually churn out traitors.

Yes,these breed are simply lost and no sense of belonging!It is really a steal and charity for the ah neh to be married into the Chinese community!

But i really support bringing in more ah tiong to ensure that S'pore continue to grow!In SE Asia,the least Chinese population,the least developed it is !


The best Economy in SE Asia by rating:

1. Singapore 75% Chinese population per capita income US$38000
2 Malaysia 26% Chinese population per capita income US$8000
3 Thailand 10% Chinese population per capita income US$4000
4 Indonesia 4% Chinese population per capita income US$2200
5 Philippines 2% Chinese population per capita income US$1800

check this here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
 

Watchman

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

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You think I give a fuck to the local Sinkies? I dont give a damn to them.

I imported so many foreigners and converted them into Singaporeans easily is because I must make sure I can suppress all those low wage workers who think they can oppose me and I still want to win in the next election.


I imported so many foreigners and converted them into Singaporeans easily is because I must make sure I can continue to suppress all those low wage workers who think they can oppose me and I still want to win in the next election.

Their low pay will remain low for all eternity .
 

Watchman

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

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popdod

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

How did you guess there are some people who are too lazy to watch the whole video?

Good job, by the way. Thank you for the summary :biggrin:



Bcoz i listen to my elite leader.

HE said sinkies are lazy.....means sinkies are lazy.
no doubts about it.

Thatz why he can be a mentor.
and others cannot.

:o :( :o
 

singveld

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

singapore liberal immigration policy will destroy singapore.
bai bai singapore.
 

Ah Guan

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

Why does Al-Jazeera only interview and showcase PRC immigrants?

I'm also curious if they've made a similiar documentary on Dubai.. The only place with a worse FT policy than sinkapore ...and low-skill migrant workers are worked to death under the desert sun
 

iamtalkinglah

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

Six major flaws of the PAP’s immigration policies:

1. Too many, too soon:
Singapore has been accepting immigrants since the 1980s and 1990s from Malaysia, Indonesia, Hong Kong and Taiwan without causing much discomfort to the local population.

This is because the immigrants have come in smaller numbers and are similar to Singaporeans in terms of culture, language and beliefs and have few problems assimilating into Singapore society.

The pace of immigration picked up when Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong assumed office in 2003 and all of sudden the floodgates are opened to accept foreigners from all over the world especially China and India where the majority of the newcomers hail from.

In the span of less than 5 years, foreigners now make up 36 per cent of Singapore’s population, up from 14 per cent in 1990. Of the remaining 64 per cent who are citizens, a significant proportion are new immigrants born overseas.

Does Singapore really need to let so many foreigners into the country within such a short period of time?

In 2008 alone, there were over 90,000 PRs and 20,000 new citizens which is obviously stretching the nation’s infrastructure, such as public housing to accommodate all of them.

PM Lee now promised Singaporeans that the rate of immigration will be continued in a “measured and calibrated” manner. Is this a tacit admission that the uncontrolled influx of immigrants between the years 2003 – 2008 had been a mistake?

2. Inadequate infrastructure such as public housing to accommodate newcomers:
It doesn’t take a genius to realize that with so many foreigners flocking to study, work and live in Singapore, one needs to increase the number of public amenities and upgrade the infrastructure to accommodate them such as public housing.

Only slightly more than 11,000 new flats were built between the years 2006 – 2008 when there were over 90,000 PRs and 20,000 new citizens alone in 2008:

The lack of foresight on the part of HDB to plan beforehand to build more new flats to house the immigrants is appalling and its failure to do so has led to sky-rocketing HDB flat prices today.

Due to the lack of new flats, especially those in the prime districts, Singaporeans have to compete with PRs in the resale flats which resulted naturally in the rise of the prices of resale flats.

Public transport such as buses and MRTs are also poorly prepared for the increase in population as evidenced by the packed buses and trains every morning.

3. Targeting the wrong people:
Singapore should be targeting foreigners who can add value to Singapore and not open its doors indiscriminately to every Tom, Dick or Harry.

Mainland China is one important source of immigrants for Singapore, but we are not getting their cream of the crop.

According to a Gallup poll done in July 2009 among Chinese college students, their top emigration destination is the United States, followed by France and South Korea. Singapore isn’t even featured among the top five.

Why isn’t Singapore attracting the best Chinese talents? Instead of examining the cause, we settle for their “lesser talents”, many of whom are uncouth peasants from the poorer inland provinces.

What Singapore is getting are not first class talents but economic migrants who cannot survive in their own countries and they are now competing with Singaporeans for limited jobs because they cost much less.

China is vast country with 23 provinces and more than 1 billion people of various races and religions.

The ethnic Chinese in Singapore come mostly from the southern provinces of Guangdong and Fujian.

Singapore should be focusing on luring prospective migrants from these two provinces instead of allowing Chinese from all across the mainland to come here.

As they share the same dialect and culture as local Chinese, they will have fewer problems integrating into Singapore society as compared to Chinese from far-flung inland provinces who come from a completely alien world altogether.

4. Ease of getting PR and citizenship:
Unlike countries, getting a PR and citizenship in Singapore is incredibly easy without any major restrictions.

Most developed countries like Australia, Canada and U.K set an English proficiency test for immigrants and only those who pass the test are able to work and live there.

In Australia, one has to live there three out of a period of five years before they are eligible to become PRs.

However in Singapore, the newcomers are “fast-tracked” to become PRs and citizens without first familiarizing themselves with the country first and spending adequate time to make the decision.

A Chinese national and Singapore PR Zhang Yuanyuan who worked as a teacher in a private institution in Singapore revealed to the media that she became a PR within 2 months of application.

Even construction workers, cleaners, masseurs and prostitutes are able to lay their lands on a Singapore PR, the stepping stone for citizenship.

According to the Home Affairs Ministry, two out of every three PR applicants are successful, an astonishingly high success rate for a first world country.

Because citizenships are given out too soon to foreigners, there is insufficient time for both parties to assess if they are really “compatible” with each other.

5. Lack of a comprehensive plan to integrate the newcomers:
Due to the large number of unsuitable migrants who are given citizenships too soon, we now end up with the problem of having to integrate them.

Again, the ruling party did not come up with a comprehensive plan to integrate the newcomers when they embarked on their ambitious plan to increase Singapore’s population via immigration way back in 2003.

It is now very difficult to integrate those who are already in Singapore because they have come in such big numbers that they tend to congregate within their own communities than to reach out to the rest of Singapore.

We are already seeing ethnic “enclaves” emerging in different parts of Singapore such as the Chinese in Geylang, Indians in Punggol and Filipinos in Tampines.

Furthermore, as they share few similarities with the Chinese, Malays and Indians though they may be of the same race, it is near impossible to expect them to assimilate into our society any time soon.

As usual, the ruling party comes up with a grandiose $10 million Community Integration Fund to throw money at the problem.

How does organizing tea parties, community events and free language courses help to “integrate” the immigrants into Singapore is anybody’s guess when they should have done their homework first before opening the floodgates to immigration.

They will simply turn up for the free food and goodies before return to their own cliques as before – do you call this “integration”?

6. Neglect of native Singaporeans:
The key reason why many Singaporeans are so vehemently against the ruling party’s immigration policies is because they feel they are not getting a fair deal as citizens from the elected government of the day.

Dr Vivian Balakrishnan said the government cannot “shield” Singaporeans from competition, but they are the ones who forced Singaporeans to compete with foreigners on unequal terms.

Firstly, the Singapore male is already disadvantaged by having to spend 4 weeks away from work annually due to reservist obligations.

Secondly, there is no way Singaporeans can compete with foreigners in terms of cost because they do not have a family here and they can easily support them back home with their meager pay earned in Singapore.

While in the past only extremely qualified professionals and blue collar workers in sectors shunned by Singaporeans are allowed into Singapore, we are now seeing an increasing number of semi-skilled foreigners on S-passes and these are the group of foreigners who are competing with locals for jobs and depressing their wages in the process.

To exacerbate the situation, there is a dearth of social welfare benefits for Singapore citizens who have to depend entirely on their CPF and medisave for retirement and medical expenses.
CPF is proving to be grossly inadequate to support Singaporeans through their twilight years and many have to continue working just to feed themselves and their families.

With so many grouses bottled up inside, it is only natural to expect Singaporeans to blame foreigners for their woes, whether rightly or wrongly.
Had the ruling party taken the necessary measures to ensure that Singaporeans are well taken care of first before they let the foreigners in, there will not be so much anger against them now.

Conclusion:
The PAP has screwed up badly on the immigration and foreign talent issues and there is no way it can salvage the situation now that we have accepted so many foreigners into our midst.

This policy oversight is the result of having a dominant one party in parliament without adequate opposition to keep it in check and to challenge its policies.

During a speech made yesterday at an event to celebrate HDB’s 50th anniversary, Singapore’s octogenarian leader Lee Kuan Yew, one of its strongest proponents for its “foreigner first” policy, admitted tacitly that it was a mistake:

“We’ve grown in the last five years by just importing labour. Now, the people feel uncomfortable, there are too many foreigners. Trains are overcrowded with foreigners, buses too, property prices have gone up because foreigners with permanent residence are buying into the market.”

We cannot afford to give the PAP another 5 years to make more mistakes. Singaporeans have to vote wisely in the next general election or they will really be reduced to being in the minority one day, swarmed by the new citizens whom the PAP is actively recruiting and wooing to shore up its flagging support base so as to preseve and perpetuate its political hegemony for eternality.

See above for your information.
 

ridzy

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

How will the government's new liberal immigration policy affect the people?
 

asadali0000

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Re: Youtube: How PAP Govt's liberal immigration policy has affected S'poreans - AlJaz

Extremely well said!!

If they still do not get it, I do not now what else can.. :groupwave:
 
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