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More Cockups at ICA?

VIBGYOR

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Overworked due to mass importation of FTs?

2 China women seek court review for right to stay here

They want High Court to order ICA to issue work and study passes

By K. C. Vijayan, Law Correspondent


TWO China nationals want the High Court to order the immigration authorities to issue them with passes to work and study here.

The moves by the two women, MsZhang Yan, 27, and Ms Xue Jin Zhou, 22, are believed to be the first time foreigners wanting to get such passes to stay in Singapore have gone to the High Court seeking a judicial review.

The two women are essentially asking the courts to see if the decision-making process by the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA) to refuse to support their applications was flawed.

The crux of their cases is whether adverse records, if any, which could have influenced the ICA's decisions against them, were valid reasons.

Shanghai-based Ms Zhang came here on a student pass last May to do business studies at a private school, but was arrested by the police about three months later at a KTV lounge.

She was suspected of working illegally as a lounge hostess but after the police investigation ended, no further action was taken against her.

Instead, her student pass was cancelled by the ICA.

She claims it was a case of mistaken identity and said she was at the lounge with a friend. She is now fighting to remain here and for her student pass to be be reinstated.

Separately, Ms Xue, who is from Heilongjiang province in northern China, secured a job here as a sales executive with a construction firm on a two-year contract. Last November, she obtained in-principle approval to take up the job here but the work pass was not issued apparently following ICA checks.

It is understood that she had previously studied English here at a private school on a student pass, but on one of her return trips from China, she had entered Singapore on an expired social visit pass.

But she was granted an extension to stay and Ms Xue believes there is nothing adverse against her to date to block her work permit application.

Both women are represented by lawyer Leonard Loo.

A closed-door session was held last week in the High Court before Justice Judith Prakash, who adjourned the case to next month for further arguments to be heard.

Both Ms Zhang and Ms Xue are seeking to have anything adverse in their records removed and their pass status restored, according to court papers filed.

Lawyer Amolat Singh noted that it is more common for those in such disputes to appeal to the authorities directly, and the matter rests there whatever the outcome.

He recalled two cases where he appealed to the ICA on behalf of two China nationals who stood to have their passes revoked for breaching the conditions.

One was unsuccessful and her student pass was revoked when she was found to be working as a lounge hostess.

But the other, whose child studied here, was allowed to remain after her explanations were verified, Mr Singh said.

She had been arrested in a raid at a hotel but it was later determined that she was there with a local man whom she was in a long-standing relationship with.

Mr Singh said the courts do not have powers to intervene with the administrative decision itself but the courts can review the procedure to see if the applicant has been given a fair hearing.
 

Ah Guan

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You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know why sinkapore is importing so many PRCs whores on student visa

We need studying whores to boost our intelligence

These whores will overrun our rapidly aging population of 2.3 million
 

mscitw

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Cock ups at ICA are routine.

ICA fat cats observed their boss was not punished, reprimanded or demoted, instead a few small pariah potatos were given boo boos and still continued to draw impressive stipends.

Only in Peasantpore.
 

besotted

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I hope they win. Singapore needs a million PRC women to upgrade its culture

PRC women are the best - articulate, fun and self-confident
 

jw5

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Cock ups at ICA are routine.

ICA fat cats observed their boss was not punished, reprimanded or demoted, instead a few small pariah potatos were given boo boos and still continued to draw impressive stipends.

Only in Peasantpore.
Yeah, when they see the prc mei meis, their cocks go UP. :smile:
 

cass888

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Doyou really believe them? Obviously they have some "history". Not enough evidence doesn't mean they aren't hookers.

Overworked due to mass importation of FTs?

2 China women seek court review for right to stay here

They want High Court to order ICA to issue work and study passes

By K. C. Vijayan, Law Correspondent


TWO China nationals want the High Court to order the immigration authorities to issue them with passes to work and study here.

The moves by the two women, MsZhang Yan, 27, and Ms Xue Jin Zhou, 22, are believed to be the first time foreigners wanting to get such passes to stay in Singapore have gone to the High Court seeking a judicial review.

The two women are essentially asking the courts to see if the decision-making process by the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA) to refuse to support their applications was flawed.

The crux of their cases is whether adverse records, if any, which could have influenced the ICA's decisions against them, were valid reasons.

Shanghai-based Ms Zhang came here on a student pass last May to do business studies at a private school, but was arrested by the police about three months later at a KTV lounge.

She was suspected of working illegally as a lounge hostess but after the police investigation ended, no further action was taken against her.

Instead, her student pass was cancelled by the ICA.

She claims it was a case of mistaken identity and said she was at the lounge with a friend. She is now fighting to remain here and for her student pass to be be reinstated.

Separately, Ms Xue, who is from Heilongjiang province in northern China, secured a job here as a sales executive with a construction firm on a two-year contract. Last November, she obtained in-principle approval to take up the job here but the work pass was not issued apparently following ICA checks.

It is understood that she had previously studied English here at a private school on a student pass, but on one of her return trips from China, she had entered Singapore on an expired social visit pass.

But she was granted an extension to stay and Ms Xue believes there is nothing adverse against her to date to block her work permit application.

Both women are represented by lawyer Leonard Loo.

A closed-door session was held last week in the High Court before Justice Judith Prakash, who adjourned the case to next month for further arguments to be heard.

Both Ms Zhang and Ms Xue are seeking to have anything adverse in their records removed and their pass status restored, according to court papers filed.

Lawyer Amolat Singh noted that it is more common for those in such disputes to appeal to the authorities directly, and the matter rests there whatever the outcome.

He recalled two cases where he appealed to the ICA on behalf of two China nationals who stood to have their passes revoked for breaching the conditions.

One was unsuccessful and her student pass was revoked when she was found to be working as a lounge hostess.

But the other, whose child studied here, was allowed to remain after her explanations were verified, Mr Singh said.

She had been arrested in a raid at a hotel but it was later determined that she was there with a local man whom she was in a long-standing relationship with.

Mr Singh said the courts do not have powers to intervene with the administrative decision itself but the courts can review the procedure to see if the applicant has been given a fair hearing.
 

pia

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ICA finally meets DRAGON LADIES. They always say "meng long guo jiang", these PRC ladies are outspoken, tenacious, and willl fight for their perceived rights.

Gone are the days when ICA rejected applications from other nationalities who would just accept the rejections without protests. The Thais and Indos should learn from the dragon ladies :biggrin:
 

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Whatever it is, I think its high time that someone take ICA to court. They not only do things at their whims and fancy many of their policies actually infringe the basic rights of citizens of Singapore contain in the Constitution.
 

pia

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Come to think of it... even coming from a Communist background, the Chinese seem to fight for their rights (right or wrong) more aggressively than our own folks at home. LKY has really tamed S'pore, hasn't he? :(:mad:
 

ccchia

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Ya lor, we need the China mei-meis and China FTs to teach Sinkies how to protest, fight hard for our rights and in future stage revolutions to overthrow the fascist dictatorship in the little red dot. After all, China has had thousands of years experience in fighting many wars, dealing with corrupt gahmen officials and in staging the big revolution with Mao.
 

VIBGYOR

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Doyou really believe them? Obviously they have some "history". Not enough evidence doesn't mean they aren't hookers.

if the law cannot prove and convict they are hookers, why do they cancel their visas?

isn't ICA exercising law arbitarily without justification? you are suppose to do C when is A and B is done.

but ICA jumped straight to C without doing B.

if ICA is the law, what's fatty woon and k sham job? puppets for show? LoL

if ICA can be the law, I also can be the law! Anyone else can also be the law.
 
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cass888

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ICA cannot throw them into jail without proof. But they can decide to give or not give or to take back if they have given any visas because the test is different.

if the law cannot prove and convict they are hookers, why do they cancel their visas?

isn't ICA exercising law arbitarily without justification? you are suppose to do C when is A and B is done.

but ICA jumped straight to C without doing B.

if ICA is the law, what's fatty woon and k sham job? puppets for show? LoL

if ICA can be the law, I also can be the law! Anyone else can also be the law.
 

VIBGYOR

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ICA cannot throw them into jail without proof. But they can decide to give or not give or to take back if they have given any visas because the test is different.

who decide? if the person decide happy today can give.

if he not happy today cannot give?

like dat also can?
 

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Whatever it is, I think its high time that someone take ICA to court. They not only do things at their whims and fancy many of their policies actually infringe the basic rights of citizens of Singapore contain in the Constitution.

it quite true.... for them only yes or no.... no need to give reason one

you can appeal 100 time... they can say no 100 time and no need to give reasons
 

khunking

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I don't think the mainlanders dare to provoke their central committee back home.

Come to think of it... even coming from a Communist background, the Chinese seem to fight for their rights (right or wrong) more aggressively than our own folks at home. LKY has really tamed S'pore, hasn't he? :(:mad:
 

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you were saying?

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TV personality Qu Zhihang and his naked push-up

Push-ups and the Internet usually don’t go together, much to the regret of doctors. In China, though, they’re both part of the newest meme, sort of a protest against a government that insists on one version of the story no matter what.

Seventeen-year-old Li Shufen died in June in Guizhou provence. She had been traveling with two men and a 16-year-old girl, who Li’s family say played a part in her death, maybe even raping and murdering her. The China Daily reports Li’s brother says he saw injuries on her face.

The government has a different story. It says Li did two push-ups, said something like, “I’m going to leave,” then jumped off a bridge to her death. The official report on Li Shufen’s death sparked a riot in Guizhou, and while the investigation continues, the strange two push-up story took on a life of its own.

Celebrities (in China) posed for pictures doing push-ups. Web comments mixed push-ups into famous phrases, like “To push-up or not to push up, that is the question.” Several thousand people joined groups with push-up as a keyword.

The Chinese government added push-up as a censored phrase just a day or two later, but word still got out. That’s why you’re reading it here.

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International protests against mass layoffs at Dongguan Fuan Textiles

Wed, 5 Mar 2008.

”We fully support the Fuan Textile workforce in their struggle” say workers’ groups and socialists.

Police fire on protesting farmers in Yunnan

Wed, 23 Apr 2008.
Two killed in crackdown on rural campaigners and ethnic minorities – unreported in Chinese media

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Fierce clashes between riot police and farmers in Yunnan province, which borders on Tibet, led to two deaths and more than 20 injured yesterday. People’s Armed Police (PAP) units fired on up to 100 villagers in the town of Saixi, Malipo County, on Monday 21 April, according to a local government website and rights groups. Hong Kong newspaper Ming Pao later put the death toll from the Yunnan protests at two.

The protesters were trying to block construction of a tungsten mine by China’s second largest gold mining company, Zijin, on land forcibly seized from villagers without agreed levels of compensation. Such illegal land grabs are the most common cause of rural unrest in China today. According to the Ministry of Land and Resources in Beijing there were 31,700 cases of illegal land seizures in the four-month period to 15 January, totaling 554,000 acres, and this despite a central government ’crackdown’ on the practise. Clearly, the Chinese regime is far more effective when it cracks down on Tibetan protesters or restive farmers than on companies and officials involved in illegal land deals.

Campaign against mining company

According to AFP (21 April 2008), the villagers had rejected compensation offered by the Zijin Mining Group, a state-owned company, and were angered when construction of the tungsten mine began. Clashes broke out after police and mining company officials began taking away video cameras from the villagers, most of whom were members of the Miao ethnic minority. Yunnan is one of the most ethnically diverse regions of China, with more than 30 national and linguistic groups. Armed police, including border police used to patrol the nearby frontier with Vietnam, were brought in to maintain order by the mining company with the backing of the local government. The fatal shootings came after a campaign by local residents to stop the mine lasting more than a year and a half.

The government of Wenshan prefecture said on its website that police initially fired warning shots but when that proved ineffective, moved in to quell the protests. ”After warning shots fired by the police were ineffective, and as the personal safety of the police was severely threatened, police were forced to use anti-riot guns, police clubs and shields in accordance with the law to defend themselves,” its website reported. According to this statement, eleven protesters were injured, one fatally. It said the villagers were armed with knives and were hurling sticks, rocks and bricks at police when the shots were fired. Five policemen were injured in the clashes, according to the government statement.

Land disputes

While the fatal shootings in Yunnan have not been reported in the state media, they have surfaced on internet sites. These events challenge the myths being circulated in Chinese media about events in Tibet and internationally in recent weeks. Firstly, the Tibetan riots (which began as peaceful protests but became violent after monks at a Lhasa monastery were reported to have been beaten by police) are not an isolated event instigated by ’outsiders’, as media reports would have us believe, but part of a wider picture of rising homegrown discontent and resistance.

Secondly, the repressive measures used in Tibetan areas today are, and will be, used against all groups that challenge the current regime and its big business friends. One week ago (9-13 April), in another incident blacked-out by the Chinese media, police in Hainan province clashed with some 6,000 villagers, mostly of the ethnic Li minority. These villagers too were protesting over insufficient compensation for land that was being confiscated to build a golf course. In Changsha, capital of Hunan province, 3,000 metal workers at two formerly state-owned factories staged sit-in protests over the low level of their redundancy and pension packages earlier this month. In Chongqing, also in April, 20,000 marched to demand justice following the brutal rape and killing of a teenager and an attempted cover-up by police and corrupt officials.

These events – mass protests across several provinces – tell us a lot about the real situation in China three months before the Olympics. The Beijing regime is terrified of a growing revolt from below, from minorities like the Tibetans, Li, Miao and Uyghur Muslims, from landless farmers, and especially from the industrial working class. In a gamble that smacks of desperation, the regime has seized upon the perceived ’anti-Chinese’ nature of the Tibetan and Olympic protests and manipulated this to whip up nationalism and public support for ’our’ government. This is an extremely risky tactic, which at best will give the regime a temporary reprieve.

As the shootings in Yunnan show, the serious social problems that the regime’s policies have created have not disappeared. And they will remain after the diversion of the Olympics has passed. Even before that time, new eruptions of mass protest can shake China, exposing the contradictions of the government’s present course.
 
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pia

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Bro, good post! Many S'poreans don't know China or think we are more "free" :rolleyes:
 
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