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Png Eng Huat vs Heng Swee Kiat

TracyTan866

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HSK was disciplined but not ambitious. He stuck to the technical of his core competency. Old man does not like bombastic and loud characters. Its for all these reasons that he attended up in MAS - central banker, cautious and meticulous. Similar to Lim Siong Guan who is known for his technical competency and not politics. Siong Guan was old man's first PPS.

can LKY tahan another bombastic and loud character like him? it's either LKY subdues him or he will leave LKY.

only submissive and b.lless characters work for LKY
 
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steffychun

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HSK was disciplined but not ambitious. He stuck to the technical of his core competency. Old man does not like bombastic and loud characters. Its for all these reasons that he attended up in MAS - central banker, cautious and meticulous. Similar to Lim Siong Guan who is known for his technical competency and not politics. Siong Guan was old man's first PPS.

Really now? I say he's coming up the ladder faster than CCS. Education is a key portfolio
 

steffychun

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HSK is Minister..CCS is Ag Minister..so, yes, HSK is ahead of CCS

But if HSK is PAP's best, you know the pap is scrapping the bottom of the barrel

I would prefer HSK rising first. CCS is too singlish. Even GCT was a better speaker in terms of English. And Goh never studied overseas
 

scroobal

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HSK is still better regarded amongst the new entrants. CCS so far has been dismal. His Hamburger Hill moment was when he fought Joshua from TOC from raping the bused-in PAP uncle and aunties by himself.
 

lesMISERABLES

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HSK will be the seatwarmer for Old Fart's grandson.

Old Fart has planned it in such a way that FamiLEE will continue its dynasty.

When Pinky steps down, HSK will be the second seatwarmer in Sinkieland's history.

Mark my words....Mark my words....
 
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Narong Wongwan

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HSK will be the seatwarmer for Old Fart's grandson.

Old Fart has planned it in such a way that FamiLEE will continue its dynasty.

When Pinky steps down, HSK will be the second seatwarmer in Sinkieland's history.

Mark my words....Mark my words....

If you dun want lee dynasty to perpetual then vote them white scum out in 2016
 

scroobal

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Not so sure. PM sons are not keen. They actually want to remain abroad. His eldest nephew is keen and the mother of that Nephew is as ambitious as a naked flame. As you know there is no likes of Rajaratnam who is supposedly found the hidden talent of the present PM and there is no Dhanabalan who found the gold in his wife. I am not sure if there is anyone who is going to sponsor a fast path programme into grassroots politics. People are watching Tanjong Pagar with keen interest. There was a lot of talk when CCS was spotted at the funeral and that he was in Tanjong Pagar slate.

There is a lot of elite businessmen who have stayed on the margins and want their special place preserved for their offsprings. I am sure they will get more involved.They are not about to have a primarily grassroots opposition party like WP influence the economy.

Interesting times I suppose.






HSK will be the seatwarmer for Old Fart's grandson.

Old Fart has planned it in such a way that FamiLEE will continue its dynasty.

When Pinky steps down, HSK will be the second seatwarmer in Sinkieland's history.

Mark my words....Mark my words....
 

lockeliberal

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Dear Scroo

HSK was and is the perennial scholar plucked from being a Mandarin into political leadership. It was rumoured that he was well liked on the ground when he did his tour in charge of Jurong as a police officer and well regarded during his time as a mandarin.

How far does a top mandarin exhibit leadership and courage as a political leader ? KBW stood out for toeing the party line and only changing his tune when the music changed. Tharmen do his credit tried a little before 2011 and tried harder after. I am willing to give HSK the benefit of the doubt because one of the unnoticed and undiscussed initiatives of his when he took charge of MOE was his attempt at Pre Ed Reform.

Pre Ed , quality affordable Pre Ed serves as an incentive to increase the work force by women, for more educated women to have children etc etc etc as proven in the Scandanavian states. The problem with Pre Ed in Singapore ? Namely the largest "public" providers of pre ed in Singapore, NTUC and surprise the PAP CF.

Pre ED has become politicised, Part political , part social cuts no ice when parents are demanding high quality pre ed with PCF just cannot manage, Just ask ard about the quality of PCF and the politics within PCF as a grassroots political org.

I admire his actions in having "pilot" Pre Ed programmes run by MOE, in effect the start of nationalization of Pre Ed, and putting people before party.


Locke






HSK is still better regarded amongst the new entrants. CCS so far has been dismal. His Hamburger Hill moment was when he fought Joshua from TOC from raping the bused-in PAP uncle and aunties by himself.
 

scroobal

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In many ways Tharman, Khaw and HSK is a re-hash of the Hon Sui Sen model. It worked then and it worked when Tharman began its first candidate. It was to plug that scholar route that was increasingly becoming unreliable. As know, Hon Sui Sen's character and integrity was beyond reproach. His family is the same.

Tharman proved that point. He has become the likeable face of the PAP and his conduct on TV debates with the opposition showed a man of substance as well decent. Khaw started out very well in MOH, immediately cutting the cost of many fees and telling the clusters not to behave in a competitive manner and to put the patients first.

It did not take long before Khaw started making comments that showed a different side. He has now become a very influential individual within the party and to the surprise of many a political animal. This is the same man who when tapped on the shoulders in 2006 said that he had little interest in politics and made it clear that he is in it for one term.

HSK surprised many over the National COnversation matter especially those who know and worked with him. We are not talking about Viv B who has been a political animal since school days, visiting Raja uninvited and cultivating his mentor Arthur Lim. It was no surprise that despite his dramatic maiden speech of slaying the dragon, when the party leadership gave him the casino question to bloody he followed the script passionately and has been on the programme since.

The question the begs an answer is why despite being the senior in the programme, Tharman's credibility has grown, well respected by both sides of the house and by all and yet Khaw's is in the drain and HSK has started badly.

PAP, YPAP, PA all have forums and politics are front and centre. I am sure selling funeral blankets is not the topic of interest so why their heavy presence. He holds a cabinet position and yet he allowed the charade to go on. If it had not been for the internet, no one will the wiser.

As you know I too had hopes for HSK. Someone who could have changed the party.




Dear Scroo

How far does a top mandarin exhibit leadership and courage as a political leader ? KBW stood out for toeing the party line and only changing his tune when the music changed. Tharmen do his credit tried a little before 2011 and tried harder after. I am willing to give HSK the benefit of the doubt because one of the unnoticed and undiscussed initiatives of his when he took charge of MOE was his attempt at Pre Ed Reform.

I admire his actions in having "pilot" Pre Ed programmes run by MOE, in effect the start of nationalization of Pre Ed, and putting people before party.


Locke
 

scroobal

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Bro, in many ways Tharman, Khaw and HSK is a re-hash of the Hon Sui Sen model. It worked then and it worked when Tharman became its first candidate. It was to plug that scholar route that was increasingly becoming unreliable. As know, Hon Sui Sen's character and integrity was beyond reproach. His family is the same.

Tharman proved that point. He has become the likeable face of the PAP and his conduct on TV debates with the opposition showed a man of substance as well decency. Khaw started out very well in MOH, immediately cutting the cost of many fees and telling the clusters not to behave in a competitive manner and to put the patients first.

It did not take long before Khaw started making comments that showed a different side. He has now become a very influential individual within the party and to the surprise of many a political animal. This is the same man who when tapped on the shoulders in 2006 said that he had little interest in politics and made it clear that he is in it for one term. The Brompton foldable bicycle episode showed a man who refused to listen to the people, assumed all was well only for a sharp citizen to unravel the corruption. No an apology and the Buddhist in him left on a quick train. Why did the man refuse to listen when told about the price differential, when told that it was not the recognised official distributor and there is no guarantee that is acceptable could not be bothered.

HSK surprised many over the National COnversation matter especially those who know and worked with him. We are not talking about Viv B who has been a political animal since school days, visiting Raja uninvited and cultivating his mentor Arthur Lim. It was no surprise that despite his dramatic maiden speech of slaying the dragon, when the party leadership gave him the casino question to bloody he followed the script passionately and has been on the programme since.

The question the begs an answer is why despite being the senior in the programme, Tharman's credibility has grown, well respected by both sides of the house and by all and yet Khaw's is in the drain and HSK has started badly.

PAP, YPAP, PA all have forums and politics are front and centre. I am sure selling funeral blankets is not the topic of interest so why their heavy presence. He holds a cabinet position and yet he allowed the charade to go on. If it had not been for the internet, no one will the wiser.

As you know I too had hopes for HSK. Someone who could have changed the party.




Dear Scroo

How far does a top mandarin exhibit leadership and courage as a political leader ? KBW stood out for toeing the party line and only changing his tune when the music changed. Tharmen do his credit tried a little before 2011 and tried harder after. I am willing to give HSK the benefit of the doubt because one of the unnoticed and undiscussed initiatives of his when he took charge of MOE was his attempt at Pre Ed Reform.

I admire his actions in having "pilot" Pre Ed programmes run by MOE, in effect the start of nationalization of Pre Ed, and putting people before party.


Locke
 
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