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My Defence Policy that opposition parties should adopt and push through parliament

steffychun

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None of the Opposition Parties really have a credible defence policy in their manifestos. WP and SPP/SDa basically support the status quo with some push for reduction in NS, RP definitely wants NS reduced, SDP stupidly wants to cut defence and hope the world is a nice place. Here is my take on what a SG Defence policy should be:

For the Army:
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Army for the ORBAT (quite accurate):

1) Cut back one NS Infantry Brigade per each of the 3 Combined Arms Divisions. SG doesn't need that many "reservist" brigades.

2) Cut back one NS Guards Brigade in the 21st Division (which is basically mostly for the 7th Guards Brigade. One maybe one and a half--one major Guards striking unit will do.

3) Remove completely the 25th Division. It is mostly a "paper" division made out of the older NS Armoured Brigades. There's no need for it even if there's a major crisis.

4) By removing 25th Division, there's no need for the surplus or older tanks that Singapore has in-country or outside. That would save tons of money.

5) 2PDF. Cut back 2-3 NS Brigades. Inany case, 2PDF is not a frontline unit.

6) Reduce the number of Leopard 2A4 Tanks. Sources say SG purchased up to 96. Cut down to 35-40.

7) Keep the rest of the non-divisional units but use them--ie deployments to UN Peacekeeping, ISAF (Afghanistan). They sit there for nothing.

Air Force:
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Singapore_Air_Force

1) Cut back 1 Fokker 50. Makes no difference. 4 would do. Or even 3.

2)Diband one to one and a half F-5 Squadrons. Yes they've been upgraded. Non, they are old planes that sit there for show mostly. the F-16s can handle therie role.

3) Cut back on one squadron of F-16s or put them in storage. That' more thna enough.

4) Sell or disband the illogical buy of the F-15SG/E. It wasn't the best plane to buy--it's even older than some of the F-16s!

5) Scrap all A-4s. What are they doing there??

6) Scrape one AEW aircraft. Again, makes no difference 4 or 3 of them. Hardly been used except inthe Airshow.

Navy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Singapore_Navy

1) Scrape one LST. SG deploys mostly one (max 2) LSTs--Gulf of Aden or Tsunami/Disaster relief anyway. So why so many ships?

2) Sell the old submarines; quikcly get the new ones up.

3) Use the stealth frigates--ie send them for anti-piracy duty in the Gulf or South China Sea. They are the most expensive.

4) Changi Naval Base: Charge the US Navy every time they come to visit or dock in CNB. They like to stop over fine. Charge them!

5) Charge the Commander, Logistics Western Pacific (http://www.clwp.navy.mil/) more.

NS:

1)Keep 2 year of NS for the near future. One, this is due to training of Officers (especially) and Specialists. Singapore already has the shortest OCS course in all countries. Cutting back NS immediately would mean you can reach 2LT in less than 10 months.

2) Eventually reduce to say 18 months but Officers Traning must not be changed.

3) Increase "allowance" for all NS ranks by 15%.

4) Improve flexibility: Allow hard-pressed soldiers more leave and off-days.

5) Reservist Training. NO Call ups for any undergraduate, post graduate or PhD students at all. Give them the same chance as their western counterparts!

6) Increase NS pay--rank pay plus salary pay plus pay to company to substitute the NS Man

7) Mobilisation:biggrin:o away with the area call ups--wasting people's time. instead massive broadcast any mobilisation. Shorten the number of mobilisations per year.

8) 10-11 years of reservists. End it at age 35 for all except for those "loyal" KAHs.
 

Char_Azn

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Re: My Defence Policy that opposition parties should adopt and push through parliamen

Say so much. Just say end reservist within 5 years. 4 long 1 short.
 

steffychun

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Re: My Defence Policy that opposition parties should adopt and push through parliamen

Unrealistic in the immediate term.
 

steffychun

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Re: My Defence Policy that opposition parties should adopt and push through parliamen

Add on:

Regular Force:

1) End the silly rank system of ME (Military Expert). No other country inthe world has this rank system. Instead use the terms of the vocation eg. Engineer, Staff Engineer Master Engineer 3rd WO Engineer etc

2) Scrap the silly name of Senior LTC. We aren't Vietnam or Burma.
 

steffychun

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1) End complusory IPPT for NS men except for Guards and Commandos.

2) NO RT if an NS man fails his IPPT. Only block pay and promotion.
 

fukyuman

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Its all wayang. The Lees knows the regulars their most loyal supporters. I am sure our sissyboys are taking steriods, you see so many of them mascular without any definition. For a real Army you need real martial spirit. That means fighting real wars and killing people. We should have men doing that in UN army fighting in Africa. Nowadays fishing kakis cannot even bring kitchen knives to cut baits. Our scouts cannot carrying scout knives except look pretty on uniforms and marching on parade square. Even bayonets and officer swords are blunted.
 

steffychun

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Re: My Defence Policy that opposition parties should adopt and push through parliamen

not all regulars are their supporters
 

KuanTi01

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Re: My Defence Policy that opposition parties should adopt and push through parliamen

Make all generals sign up for war! Afghanistan; Middle-East; etc :rolleyes:
 

steffychun

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Re: My Defence Policy that opposition parties should adopt and push through parliamen

Rather I would propose that regular battalions and brigade Qs be delopyment more often for UN missions
 

steffychun

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oops all A-4s have been retired
 

ktc5972

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I seriously think it should discuss with our neighbouring countries & together we agree to "cut" down, perhaps do join exercises & "sorties" in the case of the navy with US & UK. We need our fleet of current planes as it is "first line of defence".
 

Papsmearer

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Re: My Defence Policy that opposition parties should adopt and push through parliamen

Add on:

Regular Force:

1) End the silly rank system of ME (Military Expert). No other country inthe world has this rank system. Instead use the terms of the vocation eg. Engineer, Staff Engineer Master Engineer 3rd WO Engineer etc

2) Scrap the silly name of Senior LTC. We aren't Vietnam or Burma.

One line from your original post already shows u know nothing about defence. The F-15s are not older than the F-16s, you moron, they are brand new.
 

Papsmearer

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Re: My Defence Policy that opposition parties should adopt and push through parliamen

They are 1980s aircraft.

The F-15 we have is not 1980s era aircraft, its brand new fresh out of the boeing factory. If you buy a brand new Toyota Corolla today, is it the same Toyota Corolla from the 1980s? If u can't grasp this basic concept, u better don't comment on defense matters.
 

myfoot123

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Re: My Defence Policy that opposition parties should adopt and push through parliamen

What is the point of spending so much money on Ministry of Defence when PAP, on the other hand, is pushing more foreigners to invade Singapore and take our assets. Isn't PAP policies and budget contradictory.
 

Papsmearer

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Re: My Defence Policy that opposition parties should adopt and push through parliamen

What is the point of spending so much money on Ministry of Defence when PAP, on the other hand, is pushing more foreigners to invade Singapore and take our assets. Isn't PAP policies and budget contradictory.

The PAP is even now allowing citizens of our enemy countries to be MPs, who can vote on defence matters and potentially have access to military information. Can it be any worse than that?
 

wrcboi

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Re: My Defence Policy that opposition parties should adopt and push through parliamen

reduce NS to 1 year and remove reservist that would cut back alot
 

steffychun

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Not practical yet--that would mean OCS term would be reduced further. SG already has the shortest OCS course amongst all countries
 

cleareyes

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They are 1980s aircraft.

The F-16s were developed in the 1970s, that makes them older than F-15s.

And Singapore has been flying F-16s since 1984, just that people like you did not know about.
 

cleareyes

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None of the Opposition Parties really have a credible defence policy in their manifestos. WP and SPP/SDa basically support the status quo with some push for reduction in NS, RP definitely wants NS reduced, SDP stupidly wants to cut defence and hope the world is a nice place. Here is my take on what a SG Defence policy should be:

You are the type which i can find easily in the west, when there is peace, you talk all sorts of cut back rubblish. When war comes, you hide away and would not do your part at all.

You know nothing about operatuional requirements. In your world, the term "spare parts" and "back ups" do not exist.

The oppositions can win best on local issues. and even these issues many are still finding it hard to manage, you wnat them to talk about defence and foregin affairs?

You are such a load of crap
 
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