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154th: Routine for NSF to Die Woh! Got Seizure in 2004 Also Classify as PES A!

makapaaa

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And purposely use blurry pic to show that his death is not worth that much?


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR>NSF, 20, dies after routine workout
</TR><!-- headline one : end --><TR>Certified combat fit, he falls doing chin-ups and is pronounced dead in hospital </TR><!-- Author --><TR><TD class="padlrt8 georgia11 darkgrey bold" colSpan=2>By Teh Joo Lin
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<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->THE full-time national serviceman had completed six chin-ups on his own. With some help, the 20-year-old tried to pull his chin above the bar for a seventh time.
He did not make it and collapsed.
<TABLE width=200 align=left valign="top"><TBODY><TR><TD class=padr8><!-- Vodcast --><!-- Background Story --><STYLE type=text/css> #related .quote {background-color:#E7F7FF; padding:8px;margin:0px 0px 5px 0px;} #related .quote .headline {font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:10px;font-weight:bold; border-bottom:3px double #007BFF; color:#036; text-transform:uppercase; padding-bottom:5px;} #related .quote .text {font-size:11px;color:#036;padding:5px 0px;} </STYLE>DOESN'T MAKE SENSE 'It doesn't make sense. He's got a place in university booked for him...we were so happy. And now he's gone like that - overnight.'
Mr Foo Heng Lye, on his son Pte Foo


Soldier's death is fourth this year
PRIVATE Joe Foo Wei Rong was the fourth soldier to die this year.

In January, an army major, 41, collapsed after completing a 1.2km run.


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Private Joe Foo Wei Rong never regained consciousness after his fall at 6.05am in Lim Chu Kang camp yesterday.
According to the Defence Ministry (Mindef), he received immediate medical attention, but was pronounced dead in hospital at about 8.30am.
Mindef said the soldier from the 4th Battalion Singapore Infantry Regiment was doing his basic exercise routine when the incident occurred.
The Straits Times understands that the day started like any other for Pte Foo, who joined the unit a week ago after completing basic military training.
With about 30 platoon mates, he went through the daily exercises - sit-ups, leg thrusts, crunches and push-ups.

=> While FTrash are bz enjoying life and plotting how to bring in more of their kind to replace NSmen! Yet 66% of them have no issue with it? Which cuntry in the world is as warped and fxxx up as this?

The chin-ups were at the tail end of the half-hour routine, designed to gear them up for the day's rigours.
When Pte Foo collapsed, a medic tried to resuscitate him. An automated external defibrillator - a device that shocks the heart back into its regular rhythm - was also used, to no avail.
Doctors attempted to revive him at the Tengah Medical Centre nearby, and then at the National University Hospital (NUH).
They failed.
Pte Foo enlisted in July after clearing all pre-enlistment medical checks, including a resting electrocardiogram, which records the electrical activity of the heart.
He was certified combat fit with the highest grading of Physical Employment Status A. He also attained the second highest silver standard in his physical fitness test. The basic exercises he was performing yesterday morning are not considered strenuous military training.

=> Then why not enlist FTrash to perform them? Trying to siam responsibility until like this? Why not say that he would not have died if there's no "NS for Sporns, Free Scholarships/Jobs for FTrash"?

Associate Professor Tan Huay Cheem, who heads the cardiac department at NUH, said an activity need not be physically intense to 'trigger' sudden death when there are underlying factors present.
These could include cardiac conditions like viral myocarditis, which is when the heart is infected and weakened by a viral attack like flu.
As Mindef investigates, one question likely to surface is whether Pte Foo had underlying medical conditions that were not detected or declared.
Contacted yesterday, his father told The Straits Times that his son had suffered a seizure in 2004, and had collapsed at home.

=> Like this also classify him as PES A? Just cos NSmen no enuff due to the Old Fart's economic genocide against Sporns? Fxxx the Familee!

And on Sunday, he added, his son was given three days of medical leave by a public hospital doctor for a hamstring strain.
It is not clear at this time whether Pte Foo had submitted the medical certificate or alerted anyone at camp about his injury or past seizure.
Asked about this, Mindef said it was in close contact with his family and would 'thoroughly investigate their concerns'.
Mr Foo Heng Lye, 51, a logistics planner, also questioned why there was no doctor in the camp when the incident happened, which required Pte Foo to be taken by ambulance to the nearby medical centre where medical officers were on round-the-clock duty.
Mindef said that Pte Foo was given immediate medical attention by medics when he collapsed at 6.05am.
He was evacuated to Tengah Medical Centre by 6.40am, where the doctors tried to resuscitate him.

=> More than 1/2 hr before proper medical attention! Huge defence budget gone to Paper Generals' and GLSee CEOs' pay?

Thirty-five minutes later, he was taken to NUH.

=> Total of 1 hr before being sent to A & E! CCB Familee, u'll be burnt and torn apart by King Hades!

The Singapore Armed Forces doctor and medic continued their attempts to resuscitate him en route to the hospital, and he arrived at 7.45am. Pte Foo was pronounced dead at 8.28am.
Whether a military camp has doctors on duty round-the-clock depends on the intensity of training conducted at the camp.
But there are medics on duty in all camps and the nearest medical centre with a doctor on duty at all times is usually about five to 10 minutes away.
An upset Mr Foo said: 'It doesn't make sense.'
'He's got a place in university booked for him...we were so happy. And now he's gone like that - overnight.'
The younger of his two sons was a very filial child who, though quiet by nature, cared deeply for his family members and friends, who were shocked by the news.
The Singapore Polytechnic graduate was fit, fast and a basketball whiz nicknamed 'energiser', they recalled.
Former classmate Vignish Vijelal said: 'He was very athletic and had always been one of the fittest, fastest runners amongst us.'
Mr Chua Jian Ping, 20, recalled their lunch conversation last week, when Pte Foo related his aspirations - to be an airforce technician, 'because career prospects were good'.
Pte Foo's Achilles' heel: chin-ups, according to friends, who said his chin-ups were weak and he put in extra practice during lunchtime to train up.
Mr Vignish said: 'It's such an irony he had to go this way.'

=> Kena tekan lah! Why FTrash dun need to suffer such a fate?

Additional reporting by Jermyn Chow and Kimberly Spykerman
 

Tiu-leh-see-fart

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We should be happy that NS men are sacrificing for PAP and FTs working here.

Without NS, FTs will not come and there would be no jobs for local singaporeans.

if dying a few thousand of local singaporeans can keep FTs safe in singapore for another 100 years. so be it, so what !
 

makapaaa

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>>>Mr Vignish said: 'It's such an irony he had to go this way.' <<<

And see how the 154th ends the report on a high note to psycho Sporns to accept dying as NS slaves is part and parcel of life.
 

silverspoon

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in the end....nothing would be done...more pple will continue to die....

as long as no elite son die....nothing would be done...
 

The_Latest_H

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Three initials: FOS. It's like Free of charge..but now its Full Of Shat.

And this applies to the whole bloody article. I'm glad I haven't been reading the pile of crap ST has been producing over the last 2.5 months. I simply don't miss ST at all.
 

Ramseth

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He was PES A and had secured a place in university. Why wasn't him posted to OCS or at least SAFINCOS? Why was he posted out of BMT to an unit as a private? Something went wrong with his BMT performance as a recruit? If so, was it medical or physical, and why wasn't he downgraded then?

There was a 3-day MC issued for him. All those who had served NS should know that a 3-day MC is very hard to get and the condition must have been quite serious. Why then, was he still attending physical training session?
 

pweesng

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He was PES A and had secured a place in university. Why wasn't him posted to OCS or at least SAFINCOS?

got a place in University means must go to OCS or SISPEC meh?

last time my whole unit all got A levels and / or going to university... then whole unit commanders... nobody fight war liow...
 

babachai

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Mr Chua Jian Ping, 20, recalled their lunch conversation last week, when Pte Foo related his aspirations - to be an airforce technician, 'because career prospects were good'.

Prospect good as airforce technician?? he OK or not?
 
Z

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FIT is not equal to HEALTHY.

A man can be combat fit,
but he may not be healthy to go through the training.

This is like the structural deposit,
it can be principal protected,
but it is no guarantee.
 

congo9

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And purposely use blurry pic to show that his death is not worth that much?


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR>NSF, 20, dies after routine workout
</TR><!-- headline one : end --><TR>Certified combat fit, he falls doing chin-ups and is pronounced dead in hospital </TR><!-- Author --><TR><TD class="padlrt8 georgia11 darkgrey bold" colSpan=2>By Teh Joo Lin
</TD></TR><!-- show image if available --><TR vAlign=bottom><TD width=330>
ST_IMAGES_JLCOLLAPSE-QH3.jpg

</TD><TD width=10>
c.gif
</TD><TD vAlign=bottom>
c.gif

PHOTO COURTESY OF VIGNISH VIJELAL
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>




<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->THE full-time national serviceman had completed six chin-ups on his own. With some help, the 20-year-old tried to pull his chin above the bar for a seventh time.
He did not make it and collapsed.
<TABLE width=200 align=left valign="top"><TBODY><TR><TD class=padr8><!-- Vodcast --><!-- Background Story --><STYLE type=text/css> #related .quote {background-color:#E7F7FF; padding:8px;margin:0px 0px 5px 0px;} #related .quote .headline {font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:10px;font-weight:bold; border-bottom:3px double #007BFF; color:#036; text-transform:uppercase; padding-bottom:5px;} #related .quote .text {font-size:11px;color:#036;padding:5px 0px;} </STYLE>DOESN'T MAKE SENSE 'It doesn't make sense. He's got a place in university booked for him...we were so happy. And now he's gone like that - overnight.'
Mr Foo Heng Lye, on his son Pte Foo


Soldier's death is fourth this year
PRIVATE Joe Foo Wei Rong was the fourth soldier to die this year.

In January, an army major, 41, collapsed after completing a 1.2km run.


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Private Joe Foo Wei Rong never regained consciousness after his fall at 6.05am in Lim Chu Kang camp yesterday.
According to the Defence Ministry (Mindef), he received immediate medical attention, but was pronounced dead in hospital at about 8.30am.
Mindef said the soldier from the 4th Battalion Singapore Infantry Regiment was doing his basic exercise routine when the incident occurred.
The Straits Times understands that the day started like any other for Pte Foo, who joined the unit a week ago after completing basic military training.
With about 30 platoon mates, he went through the daily exercises - sit-ups, leg thrusts, crunches and push-ups.

=> While FTrash are bz enjoying life and plotting how to bring in more of their kind to replace NSmen! Yet 66% of them have no issue with it? Which cuntry in the world is as warped and fxxx up as this?

The chin-ups were at the tail end of the half-hour routine, designed to gear them up for the day's rigours.
When Pte Foo collapsed, a medic tried to resuscitate him. An automated external defibrillator - a device that shocks the heart back into its regular rhythm - was also used, to no avail.
Doctors attempted to revive him at the Tengah Medical Centre nearby, and then at the National University Hospital (NUH).
They failed.
Pte Foo enlisted in July after clearing all pre-enlistment medical checks, including a resting electrocardiogram, which records the electrical activity of the heart.
He was certified combat fit with the highest grading of Physical Employment Status A. He also attained the second highest silver standard in his physical fitness test. The basic exercises he was performing yesterday morning are not considered strenuous military training.

=> Then why not enlist FTrash to perform them? Trying to siam responsibility until like this? Why not say that he would not have died if there's no "NS for Sporns, Free Scholarships/Jobs for FTrash"?

Associate Professor Tan Huay Cheem, who heads the cardiac department at NUH, said an activity need not be physically intense to 'trigger' sudden death when there are underlying factors present.
These could include cardiac conditions like viral myocarditis, which is when the heart is infected and weakened by a viral attack like flu.
As Mindef investigates, one question likely to surface is whether Pte Foo had underlying medical conditions that were not detected or declared.
Contacted yesterday, his father told The Straits Times that his son had suffered a seizure in 2004, and had collapsed at home.

=> Like this also classify him as PES A? Just cos NSmen no enuff due to the Old Fart's economic genocide against Sporns? Fxxx the Familee!

And on Sunday, he added, his son was given three days of medical leave by a public hospital doctor for a hamstring strain.
It is not clear at this time whether Pte Foo had submitted the medical certificate or alerted anyone at camp about his injury or past seizure.
Asked about this, Mindef said it was in close contact with his family and would 'thoroughly investigate their concerns'.
Mr Foo Heng Lye, 51, a logistics planner, also questioned why there was no doctor in the camp when the incident happened, which required Pte Foo to be taken by ambulance to the nearby medical centre where medical officers were on round-the-clock duty.
Mindef said that Pte Foo was given immediate medical attention by medics when he collapsed at 6.05am.
He was evacuated to Tengah Medical Centre by 6.40am, where the doctors tried to resuscitate him.

=> More than 1/2 hr before proper medical attention! Huge defence budget gone to Paper Generals' and GLSee CEOs' pay?

Thirty-five minutes later, he was taken to NUH.

=> Total of 1 hr before being sent to A & E! CCB Familee, u'll be burnt and torn apart by King Hades!

The Singapore Armed Forces doctor and medic continued their attempts to resuscitate him en route to the hospital, and he arrived at 7.45am. Pte Foo was pronounced dead at 8.28am.
Whether a military camp has doctors on duty round-the-clock depends on the intensity of training conducted at the camp.
But there are medics on duty in all camps and the nearest medical centre with a doctor on duty at all times is usually about five to 10 minutes away.
An upset Mr Foo said: 'It doesn't make sense.'
'He's got a place in university booked for him...we were so happy. And now he's gone like that - overnight.'
The younger of his two sons was a very filial child who, though quiet by nature, cared deeply for his family members and friends, who were shocked by the news.
The Singapore Polytechnic graduate was fit, fast and a basketball whiz nicknamed 'energiser', they recalled.
Former classmate Vignish Vijelal said: 'He was very athletic and had always been one of the fittest, fastest runners amongst us.'
Mr Chua Jian Ping, 20, recalled their lunch conversation last week, when Pte Foo related his aspirations - to be an airforce technician, 'because career prospects were good'.
Pte Foo's Achilles' heel: chin-ups, according to friends, who said his chin-ups were weak and he put in extra practice during lunchtime to train up.
Mr Vignish said: 'It's such an irony he had to go this way.'

=> Kena tekan lah! Why FTrash dun need to suffer such a fate?

Additional reporting by Jermyn Chow and Kimberly Spykerman
MINDEF migght ..... no one tell them that he has a seizure before. It it not in the documentation at all.

Case close , another question please !
 

Ramseth

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got a place in University means must go to OCS or SISPEC meh?

last time my whole unit all got A levels and / or going to university... then whole unit commanders... nobody fight war liow...


During my time, seemed like all physically fit A-levels with uni places were sent direct from BMT for higher trainings to become officers or NCOs. Perhaps times have changed, when they realised that there ended up too many colonels and brigadiers clogging the top. :biggrin:
 

sleaguepunter

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So he collapsed at 0605hrs, that mean he was doing the morning chin-up cum excerise before breakfast. Not sure abt now, in my time this was conducted by Duty Sergent. If the knn sgt was lazy, conduct by the Indian Chief. Confirm no duty medic, at most the platoon medic around without his first aid kit.

ppl armour camp shd know abt this, the camp are without duty MO after 1700hrs. Those bastards only come in 0830hrs instead of the official 0730hrs. I not sure abt the 4SIR which was nearby, (ie. 15min drive away) for armour camp ppl who wanted medical attention had to take the rover or ambulance to Tengah Airbase who had 24/7 Medical Centre.

As we will never know the truth behind Pte Foo early demise through mindef offical reports. For one thing, it no use for the father to complain as the govt will hide behind the official report by Mindef.

As a early warning to all parents, if u suspect that there a underlying problem with yours son/sons, please go for the neccessay medical checkup. Die die go till can downgradge. Dont scare of the cost as it better to spend the money than lose your loved ones by the incompetent SAF.:mad:
 

vanblade

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I've written to ST forum on my experience with the CSM of my company back in 1997. Hope that they publish my account.

Here's how it goes:

<<I am writing to relate an experience of mine during my full time national service stint in 1996-1998 that may shed some light on why Private Joe Foo Wei Rong did not endorse his medical leave with his unit.

Back in 1997, I was serving my full time national service duties in the 3rd Battalion Guards unit as a guardsman. During a 3-day field training exercise, I had developed severe knee pains due to over exertion during field training. After the field training, I had the chance to book out of camp during the weekends. Thinking that the pain might go away after a saturday night's rest at home, it did not and the pain worsened. Fearing for the condition of my knee, I went to Changi General Hospital for consultation on Sunday morning.

The doctor on duty issue me with medical leave and excuse of heavy duties and field training for 3 days, including the Sunday. The doctor wanted me to rest my knee so that the condition does not aggravate.

On the following Monday morning, I went to sign up with my company duty sargeant to report to the unit medical centre for endorsement of the medical leave (excuse of heavy duties) given by a doctor from a public hospital. It was at this time that the Company Sargeant Major threatened all soldiers with externally issued medical leave to either drop the idea of endorsement and go back to normal duties or sign a 3 days confinement punishment before we are allowed to go to the medical centre for endorsement.

As I had a genuine knee condition and I believe that a 2 day light duties for me would be better for both my health and my performance in the unit in the future, I went against the Company Sargeant Major's order and insist on endorsement of my medical leave. I had to sign up for a 3 days confinement punishment. A confinement means a day of the weekend being confined to the camp doing cleaning and other miscellanous non-training related work instead of being able to go home and spent time with family. Weekends are very precious for stay-in combat personnel in an active unit like 3rd Guards.

The Company Sargeant Major blatantly disregarded the safety provisions in the Army and the professionalism of doctors in public practise. This act of abuse of authority is the reason the armed forces had to endure countless safety related incidents that took away lives of young Singaporeans whose duty is to serve the country but ended up losing their lives needlessly.

Condolences to Joe Foo's family. No one should die will serving his country in peace time.
>>
 
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vanblade

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11 years is a long time indeed.

But I believe as long as such abuse goes unpunished with no consequences to the perpetrators, nothing will change even for 111years.
 

madmansg

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the soldier from the 4th Battalion Singapore Infantry Regiment
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If I posted to such a unit , I will seek all means possible to get downgraded. Going by the story so far , this was his plan too but alas he got kill before downgraded.
 
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