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Even Ngiam Tong Dow whacks PAP for blindly importing FTs into Singapore

kojakbt

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR>Lest we become strangers in our own land
</TR><!-- headline one : end --><!-- Author --><TR><TD class="padlrt8 georgia11 darkgrey bold" colSpan=2>By Ngiam Tong Dow, For The Straits Times
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<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->A CASE could be made that Singapore's transition from a British colony to an independent state was shaped by the Cold War. After all, Singapore achieved independence by first merging with Malaya because of fears it might succumb to communism if it were left alone.

The end of the Cold War brought about seismic geopolitical changes. For Singapore and other Asian countries, the most critical was China's decision to stop exporting revolution. Instead, Deng Xiaoping, in the words of Chinese President Hu Jintao, adopted the strategy of the 'peaceful rise of China'.

China opened its centrally planned economy to international trade in 1978. China today is well on its way to becoming one of the world's three largest economies.

Singapore's economic relations with China are growing by the day. Yet barely 40 years ago, states like Singapore with sizeable ethnic Chinese populations were wary if not fearful of trading with China lest cheap Chinese products were used to seduce our people politically.
Singapore's national trading arm, Intraco, was instructed by the Finance Ministry to diversify the country's sources of rice imports. In the late 1960s, China was the most competitive supplier of rice. But the Singapore authorities were afraid that Chinese rice could be used to subsidise revolution.

Singapore and China were mutually suspicious of each other then, as the following story indicates:

In the late 1970s, China placed an order with a shipbuilder here for two oil drilling rigs. Six Chinese engineers led by a political commissar were dispatched to Singapore to supervise the building of the rigs. As standard operating procedure, the Chinese were placed under surveillance. Singapore's intelligence officers followed them everywhere they went. One day, the leader of the Chinese team, in exasperation, told our liaison officer that there was no need to tail his people. He was in fact more worried that his people would defect to Singapore.

In the 1960s, the world was divided into political blocs. National economies produced behind tariff walls. The term 'global economy' was not yet coined. But by necessity, the 'little red dot', Singapore, had to be open.
Though the world has changed since then, the fundamentals of Singapore's economic and trade policies remain the same. Singapore has to be useful to its trading partners, as it has been since the 15th century, in order to survive.

So long as we add to our knowledge and remain nimble, we can earn a living. Our fundamental challenge is political. How do we become one people despite our diversity?

As we are unlikely to ever restore our natural birth rates to replacement levels, we have no choice but to add to our population through immigration. But how do we assimilate the newcomers? With a small population, will we ever be in a position to assimilate anyone? Or will we instead be absorbed by them as they come from stronger cultures? At what pace should we bring in new immigrants?

I do not want to sound alarmist but a recurring nightmare of mine is that someday we will find ourselves strangers in our own land.

The East India Company, and later the British colonial office, essentially followed a policy of laissez-faire: they let people come and go. Our forefathers who migrated to Malaya and Singapore in the late 1800s and early 1900s fended for themselves. They built their own businesses and social organisations; they established schools.

Some of them went back to their ancestral homelands to die. Most stayed in their adopted country. We are their children and grandchildren.
Today, migration is economics driven. The best and the brightest move around the world searching for higher paying jobs. We risk having them use us as a stepping stone. Foreign fathers may advise their sons born in Singapore to leave when they reach the national service age of 18.
Singapore will be left with the second tier of average people.

Educationally, they would hardly measure up to the Singapore average. When they are given citizenship and the right to vote, they will use their new-found electoral power to demand equal access to social services as other Singaporeans. The difference is existing citizens would have paid for those social services over a lifetime of tax payments; the new citizens would not.

[COLOR=_______]The population planners need to remember that international economic competitiveness is now knowledge-based. It is no longer a numbers game. Why the haste in adding to the population? Do we have the absorptive capacity to accommodate a million new people within a decade?[/COLOR]

[COLOR=_______]I believe we should make haste slowly. We should avoid repeating the 1960s mistake of 'stopping at two' - but this time in reverse.[/COLOR]

The writer, a former senior civil servant, is currently an adjunct professor at Nanyang Technological University. The above is an excerpt from a 'fireside chat' he delivered to the Singapore chapter of the World Presidents' Organisation.
 

Tiu Kwang Yew

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ah ngiam still dont understand that FT policy is the necessary evil at all costs for PAP to stay in power .

Ft policy is all about winning elections.

you think PAP baboons dont know what is knowledge based.

It is now numbers game to stay in power----votes are numbers---the more you have--you win.

PAP is worried to get kicked out and become like ah bian----this is the real fear!

it's do or die----FT policy is the solution for PAP to stay in throne.

40 years of skeletons , you think they can afford toplay play....die die also must import.

ah Ngiam can kiss the honorable past good bye ! It's law of the jungle now!
 

singveld

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dog shit evil PAP, open the door to FT cheap labour to singapore and giving out PR and pink IC like happy meal toys.

but that is the end of that guy career

but it is good that the sinkies become extinct.
they deserve it as they let a family run the whole show. then they scratch their head, why they lost their country?
 

pia

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LKY's S'pore Inc. needs the revenue to boost the bottomline. How else but to increase the market size by importing FTs? S'poreans are getting lesser and poorer. :mad:
 

soIsee

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Ngiam could be damn right you know!

The true blue sinkie will one day be extinct. Even with the last few remaining ones, they'll be strangers to their own land which was once their own!:(
 

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Ngiam could be damn right you know!

The true blue sinkie will one day be extinct. Even with the last few remaining ones, they'll be strangers to their own land which was once their own!:(

You now know how the Malays felt when the first wave of chinkies arrived. :rolleyes:
 

Leongsam

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What is tthere for the m&ds to feel?

They sold the place to Raffles isn't it?:biggrin:

"They" was one man... Hussein Shah. The ordinary inhabitants had no say in the matter.

Fast forward to the 21st century and you have exactly the same situation... one man.. a certain Harry Lee, has invited marauding hordes of foreigners to settle in YOUR backyard without ever seeking your opinion. :wink:
 

wizard

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"You go down New York, Broadway. You will see the beggars, people of the streets... Where are the beggars in Singapore? Show me." - Lee Kuan Yew.


1...He obviously have not been to Kuan Yim temple, chinatown and some MRT station.

2...You will be arrested if you beg. So change to sell tissue at $1 lah. There is always a way to beat the law.

3... lastly, any place that he will be going will be clean of beggers and bombs. So "WHERE ARE THE BEGGERS IN SINGAPORE" SHOW ME..

faster die faster good
 

cowbehcowbu

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These new immigrants are from much much more complicated socio-political and cultures[ont ever believe that the chinese from PRC andkelings from India continents are the same as the chinese n indiaqns in singapore....anyone who has spent a fair bit of time in china will tell you the CULTURE SHOCKS when they first learn about the social culture in China...

also mr HGiam is perfectly right that most of these imports are of the 2nd or lower tier..never the cream de la cream..the best and ablest PRC and Indian brains were either kept in home countries and well taken care off or in sojournment in the US and EU.......

These pRC and Indians are very unpredictable..rebellious..and most like will revolt against the establishment when they settle down here[ our ruling PAP will be in for SHOCKS ..that how ungrateful these new immigrants will be...

It is a very dangerous game that will impaired and wreck havoc to the social fabric here...and will destabilising the society.............
gabmen must pause..thinmk again and take immediate action to remedy the damaged done so far.........before something so terribly wrong...
 

chinkangkor

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You now know how the Malays felt when the first wave of chinkies arrived. :rolleyes:

Singapore has been importing foreigners since the 1970s and s'poreans accepted them and these new immigrants, mostly malaysians, assimilated into our society smoothly. The political leaders back then were more prudent and allowed only those who were bright or could fit into our society well.

The situation now is an indiscrimate import of huge number of foreigners with many having no intentions to live and die for s'pore. The new immigrants including those new citizens/PRs today are more like economic refugees coming here to make money and will most likely return to their motherland sometime in the future. They have this exit route which many s'poreans do not have. Most of the more abled ones will also move on to other better destinations when they have the chance.

This sudden influx of huge number of immigrants have increasing made it harder to assimilate them into our local cultures as their numbers are large enough to have their own social habits and cultures rooted. Gradually, they will shape the cultures, ethos and characters of s'poreans.

The damage done will be irreparable and our workforce will be more like third world standard with low productivity.
 

kojakbt

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"They" was one man... Hussein Shah. The ordinary inhabitants had no say in the matter.

Fast forward to the 21st century and you have exactly the same situation... one man.. a certain Harry Lee, has invited marauding hordes of foreigners to settle in YOUR backyard without ever seeking your opinion. :wink:

Unlike Hussein Shah's subjects, we intend to vote Harry out...
 

i_am_belle

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ah ngiam still dont understand that FT policy is the necessary evil at all costs for PAP to stay in power .

Ft policy is all about winning elections.



many ppl don't understand this ...

bcos PAP keeps repeating that s'poreans are not giving birth, not replacing themselves that they have to import FTs -- after awhile, sinkees start to believe this & repeat after PAP like a parrot ...

brainwashing ... :mad: :confused: ... is PAP's dirty old trick ...

all developed countries esp highly urbanised cities see a decline in population & their govts are not unduly worried !

import of FTs also enable more HDB units to be sold, private properties to sell at sky-high prices, taxes to be made from that regressive tax system GST, and fill up school places in less popular schools (as well as popular schools but those tend 2b scholars) ...

influx of foreigners help strengthen PAP's hold on more money & power ... :eek: :mad:
 

scroobal

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Both the trader Indians, Arabs and chinese came first around the same time. The chinese coolies and indian indentured labour came later, also around the same time as plantations were started by the British and Chinese towkays.

the ah neh arrived first with the british army.
i think they are preocupied with ah neh than think of chinkies.
 

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many ppl don't understand this ...

bcos PAP keeps repeating that s'poreans are not giving birth, not replacing themselves that they have to import FTs -- after awhile, sinkees start to believe this & repeat after PAP like a parrot ...

brainwashing ... :mad: :confused: ... is PAP's dirty old trick ...

all developed countries esp highly urbanised cities see a decline in population & their govts are not unduly worried !

import of FTs also enable more HDB units to be sold, private properties to sell at sky-high prices, taxes to be made from that regressive tax system GST, and fill up school places in less popular schools (as well as popular schools but those tend 2b scholars) ...

influx of foreigners help strengthen PAP's hold on more money & power ... :eek: :mad:
Nobody forced them to have their brains washed.
Perhaps it's those with dirty brains which need washing.
 

pia

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"You go down New York, Broadway. You will see the beggars, people of the streets... Where are the beggars in Singapore? Show me." - Lee Kuan Yew.

He may truly believe this. Before he makes his rounds (that is, if he does), all the glass roots doggies "clear" his way first of beggars and other unsightly things, e.g. bangla workers. That's why he also thinks there are only foreign TALENTs around in S'pore.
 
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