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Chitchat Ng Ser Miang on privilege and not birthright.

scroobal

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If ever anyone knows about privilege its this guy.

He has been Sports chief since 1991 - fucking 26 years, and 26 years where Singapore sports has deteriorated to a lowest rank ever. Ordinary Bank Officer with Chung Khiaw and 3 years later given surprise licence to operate 2nd bus service. The country spent millions on YOG so this arsehole can secure his tenure as IOC VP and hoping to become the head honcho. How else a small country that hardly made a dent in Olympics end with a Singaporean as an IOC VP.

Daughter becomes state sailor, suddenly got brand new National Sailing Centre, new equipment etc.

When they decided to take out new AG designate, the man suddenly becomes a victim and the AG designate is jailed.

Good on Soh who basically told Ng to fuck off.

http://www.tnp.sg/sports/athletics/ng-ser-miang-representing-singapore-privilege-not-birth-rightNg Ser Miang: Representing Singapore a privilege, not birth right
MAP award is a privilege, not an entitlement

IOC member Ng says marathoner Soh must uphold values as a national athlete

Sazali Abdul Aziz
Sports Correspondent
Sep 22, 2017 06:00 am

If an athlete doesn't agree to the conditions for the Multi-Million Dollar Award Programme (MAP), then he shouldn't take the prize.

That was the view of International Olympic Committee (IOC) member Ng Ser Miang, who yesterday weighed in on SEA Games marathon champion Soh Rui Yong's reluctance to donate 20 per cent of his $10,000 prize money to Singapore Athletics (SA).

As an individual SEA Games champion, Soh will receive $10,000 under the MAP awards, which provides a cash payout to athletes who win medals at the Olympic, Asian, Commonwealth and SEA Games.

Athletes are required to donate 20 per cent of the MAP awards to their national sports association (NSA) for future training and development.

For the Commonwealth Games, the amount to be donated is 50 per cent.

While Soh acknowledged he had signed a Team Singapore agreement stating he agreed to the mandatory donation, he told The Straits Times last week that he decided to protest as he deemed his scenario an "exceptional case" where the NSA had not helped its athletes.

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The 26-year-old felt SA was undeserving of the gesture, following the infighting and controversies that have plagued the association over the past year.

Yesterday, Ng, who sits on the executive board of the IOC, shared a Facebook post about Ashley Liew winning the International Fair Play Committee's Pierre de Coubertin World Fair Play Trophy last September.

Ng added that he was reminded of Liew's sportsmanship after reading about athletes "going to the media fighting for self-interests without regard to the overall good for his sport... (and) forgets it is an honour and privilege and not a birth right to fly the flag of Singapore".

When contacted by The New Paper, the 68-year-old former Singapore Sports Council (now SportSG) chairman said he felt compelled to share his thoughts because national athletes should not lose sight of the "values" they have to represent.

The award is a privilege, not entitlement. If an athlete does not believe in it (or its rules), he can opt out of it.
International Olympic Committee member Ng Ser Miang
"Like representing Singapore, it (the MAP award) is a privilege," said Ng.

"There are rules and conditions to the award, and it is not an entitlement.

"The 20 per cent donation to support the NSA has become a tradition and, more importantly, it is a reflection of the values in sports.

"No athlete can achieve what they achieve without the whole ecosystem - including NSAs, SportSG, SNOC, parents, employers, sponsors and Singaporeans in general - and I think it is proper that the athletes should remember that."

Soh's protest has sparked debate about the mandatory donation to the NSAs.

Some have criticised him for challenging a decades-old tradition, while others have lauded him for speaking out and bringing up what they view as a valid argument.

Said Ng, who is also chairman of the Singapore Olympic Foundation: "I will not get into that debate. Everybody is entitled to his view. But the award is a privilege, not entitlement. If an athlete does not believe in it (or its rules), he can opt out of it."

He added: "A gold medallist is not always a champion.

"Being a champion is about more than winning medals. It is about being a role model and showing exemplary conduct."

When contacted, Soh told TNP: "Mr Ng's comments are simply reiterating the rules.

"I agree that the NSA-athlete relationship is important, and that is why I'm taking this stand. This is not about the $2,000, it's about principle. For an NSA that helps and supports their athletes sufficiently, they deserve the 20 per cent.

"I am fighting for a better SA and a better ecosystem that supports athletes. At the moment, many athletes simply get frustrated and leave the sport.

"He should be at least thankful that athletes like me have soldiered on despite inadequate support from my NSA."
 

bobby

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Same principles should also apply to NS...not a birth right but you can choose to opt out.
 

melzp

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Interesting. He fm PRC. So, he speaks for Ping Pong too.

But how he became boss of TIBS ?

Soh (like a Father) would not part 20% in a quarrelling Assn. I support him.
 

tanwahtiu

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A champion dont hv to win medal in sport.

A sportman who win a gold medal is not a champion.

Kong simi lanjiao 不知死。

He added: "A gold medallist is not always a champion.

"Being a champion is about more than winning medals. It is about being a role model and showing exemplary conduct."

When contacted, Soh told TNP: "Mr Ng's comments are simply reiterating the rules.

"I agree that the NSA-athlete relationship is important, and that is why I'm taking this stand. This is not about the $2,000, it's about principle. For an NSA that helps and supports their athletes sufficiently, they deserve the 20 per cent.

"I am fighting for a better SA and a better ecosystem that supports athletes. At the moment, many athletes simply get frustrated and leave the sport.

"He should be at least thankful that athletes like me have soldiered on despite inadequate support from my NSA."
 

nayr69sg

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Soh guy. Don't talk Lan cheow lah. If not happy don't take the money lor. Contract is contract. Not you suka suka want to change then change ok?
 

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Many years ago, at about 6.45 am, there was a thunderstorm. I saw this tiny frame running alone in the heavy rain at Bishan. He is this Soh guy. I think he is not a natural runner as he had been 2nd to Mok for years since school days. His achievement is through sheer hardwork, sacrifices and perseverance. I don't think he run for the money. It is pure passion bordering on madness. But it is such spirit make one succeed.

Will he be allowed to compete if he refuse to sign the contract? Does he fight to keep all the money for himself? (he mentioned something about charity) Why is he so vocal now?

I think his years of playing 2nd fiddle might have subjected him to unfair treatments which the champions have never encountered. This accumulated frustration enable him to have a clearer view of the state of the organization. Probably he has matured and has found his voice. Isn't it interesting that when people dare not voice out we call them coward but when they do voice out we call them names again. Sinkee attitude and behavior cannot be changed.
 

Bonut

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Soh guy. Don't talk Lan cheow lah. If not happy don't take the money lor. Contract is contract. Not you suka suka want to change then change ok?

Yes, if he had wanted to send a forceful message, he should have rejected the $10,000 prize money altogether giving the reason that he didn't want to profit the Association.

At least he would have shown that he was prepared to lose $8,000 to put across his point.

Instead, his message is tainted with his failure to honor a promise and the greed to keep the remaining $2,000.
 

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Yes, if he had wanted to send a forceful message, he should have rejected the $10,000 prize money altogether giving the reason that he didn't want to profit the Association.

At least he would have shown that he was prepared to lose $8,000 to put across his point.

Instead, his message is tainted with his failure to honor a promise and the greed to keep the remaining $2,000.

If he did that the association would grab the entire 10k for themselves. You dunno vile pappies pattern ah?
 

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Ng added that he was reminded of Liew's sportsmanship after reading about athletes "going to the media fighting for self-interests without regard to the overall good for his sport... (and) forgets it is an honour and privilege and not a birth right to fly the flag of Singapore".

Sports Council and NSA filled with saf officers, many of them are kakis.

In recent years, local sports scene is really screwed badly and AGO did not step-in because of the connections of these officers. They are just in-charge of paying themselves well and spending the funds. The athletes were much lower-paid than these officers. They are arrogant and made the finance team made to bear the shit of the management lack of due diligence. Some are corrupted who ignored compliance and the less corrupted only know how to organize weekly "battalion runs", a ritual passed down from army days.

How many of them really care of our sports?
How many of them really love our country?
Our NSAs and Sports Council are loosely regulated, worse than NKF, but does our government care?


They are elites, we are shit.
Read deeper into Schooling and you will know the unhappiness. Behind even Soh or Schooling, there are hundreds more disgruntled athletes.
 

Hangover

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Clean up the cronyism in sports management.
Held those in the wrong responsible.
Treat our athletes better.
 

Narong Wongwan

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Sports Council and NSA filled with saf officers, many of them are kakis.

In recent years, local sports scene is really screwed badly and AGO did not step-in because of the connections of these officers. They are just in-charge of paying themselves well and spending the funds. The athletes were much lower-paid than these officers. They are arrogant and made the finance team made to bear the shit of the management lack of due diligence. Some are corrupted who ignored compliance and the less corrupted only know how to organize weekly "battalion runs", a ritual passed down from army days.

How many of them really care of our sports?
How many of them really love our country?
Our NSAs and Sports Council are loosely regulated, worse than NKF, but does our government care?


They are elites, we are shit.
Read deeper into Schooling and you will know the unhappiness. Behind even Soh or Schooling, there are hundreds more disgruntled athletes.

Yes agreed.
Good example of Schooling who basically had to go at it alone and mind you the Swimming Association was supposedly the better if not the best sports association.
Pappies only know how to import and throw money at 3rd foreign rejects.
 

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I would agree with this Ng chap if being ministers is also a privilege, not an entitlement and the pappy do not pay themselves the highest salaries in the world .
it sounds hollow talking about fair play when you have reserved elections ,race decided by committee and own self clear own self.
Is it part of fair play when foreigners can get jobs and apply HDB swithout serving NS?
All these former military men seconded to high positions in GLC's/stat boards/NSA also part of fair play?
 
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scroobal

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The contract expects all parties involved to do their part. SA failed miserably and it is quite well known. They have also been caught trying to fix up another coach - and nothing happened to the Officials involved. We are paying foreigners as head coach handsomely and they delivered only 2 golds and he was one of them. Just before they departed for the games, the Association threatened to kick-him out for breaching sponsorship rules.

He is not only one that has suffered. They can't even organise a pole vault delivery with the airlines nor get the proper sports attire for the athlete. SA admin if they cannot do these things, what exactly do they do?


Ng Ser Miang has been there for 26 years and nothing to show for it. At least make way for more capable people to take on the role. He is also sneaking as hell. He once an interview just he contested for the post of Secretary General of IOC which he did not make. In the interview he said it was volunteer post. Just like TT Durai who claimed to be the Honorary Secretary of NKF for years. IOC council members are treated royally when they attend meetings - travel, accommodation, expenses etc.

Soh has made a lot of noise in the press, nothing happened. When he refused to make the $2k payment to SA, Ng Ser Miang surfaced.



Soh guy. Don't talk Lan cheow lah. If not happy don't take the money lor. Contract is contract. Not you suka suka want to change then change ok?
 

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The contract expects all parties involved to do their part. SA failed miserably and it is quite well known. They have also been caught trying to fix up another coach - and nothing happened to the Officials involved. We are paying foreigners as head coach handsomely and they delivered only 2 golds and he was one of them. Just before they departed for the games, the Association threatened to kick-him out for breaching sponsorship rules.

He is not only one that has suffered. They can't even organise a pole vault delivery with the airlines nor get the proper sports attire for the athlete. SA admin if they cannot do these things, what exactly do they do?


Ng Ser Miang has been there for 26 years and nothing to show for it. At least make way for more capable people to take on the role. He is also sneaking as hell. He once an interview just he contested for the post of Secretary General of IOC which he did not make. In the interview he said it was volunteer post. Just like TT Durai who claimed to be the Honorary Secretary of NKF for years. IOC council members are treated royally when they attend meetings - travel, accommodation, expenses etc.

Soh has made a lot of noise in the press, nothing happened. When he refused to make the $2k payment to SA, Ng Ser Miang surfaced.


There is only one word to describe Ng Ser Miang - He is a MOTHERFUCKER!
 

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How many sinkie can boast annual skiing holidays in Japan and Canada like this privilege asshole?

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While Soh acknowledged he had signed a Team Singapore agreement stating he agreed to the mandatory donation, he told The Straits Times last week that he decided to protest as he deemed his scenario an "exceptional case" where the NSA had not helped its athletes.

Pretty much an open-and-shut case we have here. Soh signed an agreement and he broke his word.

Soh is a liar who compromised his integrity for $2000. There are better ways to disagree with Team Sinkie than to be a liar. What principles is he talking about when he tore up an agreement he signed?

Why the fuck are you samsters encouraging him to renege on a signed agreement? You are just making use of that simpleton runner as cannon fodder for your opposition towards PAP.
 
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