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Serious Close Ally Canada CANCELLED F-35 Order because delivery delayed and price up too much

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PLA laughing at expensive out-dated F-22 need to be kept in expensive termal hangers

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2017-09-23/doc-ifymfcih3221317.shtml


[h=1]F22用恒温机库为何歼20不用 因涂层技术领先美军[/h] 2017年09月23日 08:57 新浪军事




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  新浪军事编者:为了更好的为读者呈现多样军事内容,满足读者不同阅读需求,共同探讨国内国际战略动态,新浪军事独家推出《深度军情》版块,深度解读军事新闻背后的隐藏态势,立体呈现中国面临的复杂军事战略环境,欢迎关注。
  国产歼20战机自首飞开始,即一直为人们关注,但是它一直是保密型号,直到2016年底,才公开其存在,2017年7月底,这款人们期盼了多年的国产隐身战机才公开亮相,为何中国官方此时高调曝光一则消息?原因很简单,一是90年建军大庆之日,应公布点好消息,二是,歼20已经真正的成熟了!
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  歼20参加阅兵

  如今已经公开的展示在世人面前了,公开的照片不少了,访谈节目 中也多少次谈论。人们喜欢比较歼20与F22,只有F-22与歼20能拼个半斤八两,只是歼20的性能参数没公开,不仅让对比缺少说服力,也让某些人有机会随意贬低歼20,可惜从许多细节处,我们可以发现歼20远比F22更先进,比如:维护性能。
  现代战机越来越复杂了,也对战机维护提供越来越高的要求,为此美军特意为F22修建了专用机库!也许在许多人的印象中,机库只是一个仓库,停放战机的地方,然而看到F22的机库,你会明白什么叫:先进!
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  F22的机库内部

  这可是顶级配置的设施:恒温恒湿机库。以美国阿拉斯加地区的埃尔蒙多夫空军基地内的F-22机库为此,具有完善的泡沫灭火系统,配以F-22APU排气装置,以避免机库内一氧化碳超标,同时空调设施能保证恒温恒湿的环境,以令飞机的维护提供舒适环境。各类保障设备一应具全,清洗设备,防跌落保护托架,甚至从感观考虑,选用白色环氧树脂地坪涂料以提高视觉亮度和耐用性。
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  歼20只有机棚
  歼20的待遇要差许多,享受的只是机棚,除了能挡一下阳光,防雨之外,可以说四面透风。如此待遇的差别,也许保证有人在喷,中国技术落后,不重视歼20等等。其实这一个细节让大家更加兴奋才对,中美对待各自最先进战机的截然不同作法,实际尽显中国之进步。
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  这机库叫不叫奢移?

  美军给F22准备恒温恒湿机库实为技术上的无奈,原来F22在美军接手之后,经过一段时间的使用才发现问题,它表面的隐形涂层在使用一段时间后极易脱落,需要更为细致的技术保养,往往每飞行一小时需要30小时维护,这才特意修了恒温恒湿机库。既便差一点,也要封锁式机库,很少会露天停放,这是没有办法的办法。原本美军的绝大多数战机都是露天停放。
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  F22的机库条件不错

  我们没有给歼20弄个恒温恒湿机库,不是我们建不起,而是不需要,歼20采用更为先进的隐身涂层技术,完全可以象其他战机一样接受普通的维护。这个意义不小了,不必象F22那样,在部置与使用上受到限制,目前F22无法常驻海外,只能短期驻扎,这与其说是兵力不足,不如说,驻外基地无法保障如此骄气的战机!
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  歼20


  也许是中美技术理念的差距,美国人注意先进性,为了先进可以不计成本,中国人注重于实用性,仅仅先进对我们缺少吸引力!(作者署名:浴火)
 

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Re: PLA laughing at expensive out-dated F-22 need to be kept in expensive termal hang

Ah Tiong said my J-20 need not be kept in specially built thermal control hangers because my stealth coating is more advanced. The F-22 are more than 20 years old technologies.

F-22 only less then 200 units, actually made only 187 and only 180 can still fly. Expensive like hell to maintain, and can only be kept inside specially build hangers, meaning they can not be freely deployed as needed.

They need also regularly be re-coated with so called stealth coating paint because that shit got poor life-span and after subjected to combat flights easily won out and be come non-stealth!

That means the Emperor's invisible cloak Pitcha Lobang already, exposed backside NUDE!
 

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Re: Close Ally Canada CANCELLED F-35 Order because delivery delayed and price up too

Any fighter plane mentioned here is a better choice than the F-35. Canada does not need stealth capability. She has not intention to invade another country's airspace. A fast long distance interceptor is more practival for her needs. Best is she redevelops the long forgotten Avro Arrow.

Cheers!
 

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Re: Close Ally Canada CANCELLED F-35 Order because delivery delayed and price up too

The maple leafs got no natural enemies, for defense i recommend to build a wall across to prevent america from crossing over n make america pay for it
 

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Re: Close Ally Canada CANCELLED F-35 Order because delivery delayed and price up too

And this Singapore sjw have faith in the mangkahlee who lied about his role in Afghanistan and the snowflake who is caught lying repeatedly over and over again.


Laurie Hawn knows squat. Look at his performance while in the right-wing Canadian government. Right-wingers are idiots and Hawn exemplifies one.
 

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Re: Close Ally Canada CANCELLED F-35 Order because delivery delayed and price up too

And who is going to build it??? If by Bombardier, guarantee behind schedule, massive cost over run, needs a bailout and the executives will give themselves a big bonus


. Best is she redevelops the long forgotten Avro Arrow.

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Turks knows the best as the user of both NATO & Russian weapons - S-400 kills F-22

https://www.rt.com/news/404181-turks-brag-russian-sam/

Turks boast that Russian S-400 SAMs can take out American B-52s, F-22s and Tomahawks

Published time: 22 Sep, 2017 09:51
Edited time: 22 Sep, 2017 10:10
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Turks boast that Russian S-400 SAMs can take out American B-52s, F-22s and Tomahawks
FILE PHOTO The S-400 Triumf anti-aircraft weapon system © Sergey Malgavko
Surprising as it may be to the US, their staunch NATO ally Turkey is listing the American-made warplanes and missiles it says are vulnerable to the Russian-made S-400 SAMs it has just bought.

An infographic published on Wednesday by the state-run Turkish news agency Anadolu details the components of an S-400 battalion and the system’s capabilities. Half of the picture shows aircraft the system “can eliminate”.

[INFOGRAPHIC] Versatility of S-400 missile defense https://t.co/zbQPudPx2gpic.twitter.com/PkevdG9y2A
— ANADOLU AGENCY (ENG) (@anadoluagency) September 21, 2017

Those include the bombers B-52 Stratofortress and B-1 Lancer, as well as the E-3 Sentry, better known as AWACS (Airborne Warning and Control System). The list also includes half-a-dozen US-made fighter jets and support aircraft, including the advanced F-22 Raptor and the E-2 Hawkeye flying radar, and two kind of tactical missiles – the Tomahawk cruise missile, and an unspecified ballistic missile.

Turkey is in the process of acquiring the S-400 system from Russia, much to the chagrin of its NATO allies. The publicity seems to imply that Turkey needs the system to defend against countries that have such aircraft in their air forces. Those would be US and its allies, among them Turkey’s neighbors Israel, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf kingdoms.
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Anti-aircraft defense system S-400 Triumph of an air defense regiment © Sergey Malgavko ‘What did they expect?’ Erdogan rebukes NATO critics over purchase of Russian S-400

NATO and individual allies, including the US, criticized Turkey for choosing a long-range air defense system made in Russia instead of one produced by the organization’s members, such as the US-made Patriot PAC-3. They said the S-400 lacked interoperability and compatibility with NATO weapon systems.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan rebuked the critics, saying he was thinking of Turkey’s safety first, and highlighting times when NATO allies failed Turkey in that regard.

“What do you expect? Should we wait for you? We take care of ourselves in every security point. We are taking precautions and we will continue to do so,” he said.

Ankara seems to be increasingly distant from other NATO members over a number of issues. It has a rift with the US over Washington’s support in Syria and Iraq of Kurdish militias, viewed in Ankara as a major threat to Turkey. The US also refused the Turkish government’s demands for the extradition of the cleric Fethullah Gülen, accused by Turkey of masterminding an attempted military coup last year.

Turkey is also at odds with western European nations, notably Germany, which accuse the county of abusing human rights and moving towards becoming a dictatorship. Turkish and European officials have traded sharp insults over the past year.


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