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Serious Everyone is missing the real reason for TCJ becoming Speaker

KuanTi01

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After the Michael Palmer incident, Gay Loong played safe. He picked a devout muslim Halimah as the speaker then a devout christian TCJ as another one.

100% agree with you! Muslim Halimah apart from her religion is indeed a very "safe" bet because her looks and figure kill off any would-be erections. So unlikely to steal-eat. As for TCJ apart from being a devout Christian, his good-looking wife takes good care of his needs! Above all both speakers always speak well of the ruling party.lol.
 

steffychun

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A lot of foumners and others in the general public view TCJ's speaker nomination as a demotion. Yes, on the external point, it does look like a demotion. For sure, he will earn substantially less money as a Speaker gets paid $550K while a Minister will get over $1.5 million salary a year. His role in govt is also reduced and some say that he is just a figure head in a parliament with an overwhelming majority of PAP MPs. Even with a useless and low profile Ministry like the Ministry of Social and Family Development, he would still have had more power. Many say he is on the out as a 4[SUP]th[/SUP] generation leader.


I differ on this point of view, in fact, I view his appointment as Speaker a strategic move by the PAP for the long term. The PAP has plans for TCJ. They had to get him out of MSF because he was a walking time bomb. This moron could not keep his mouth shut and kept shooting himself in the foot. He is one of the most active poster on FB and social media. He could not be reined in, and his handlers are too stupid to keep him out of harm’s way. Some say he was taken out of the high profile and volatile Ministry of Manpower because he could not handle it and is once again being demoted from even this jiak liao bee Ministry. Some past examples of this buffoon missteps include:


1) 1) Some people collect cardboard not because they need the money, but for exercise. Really? Coming from a Minister of Social Welfare?

2) 2)Accused cancer stricken family of “playing up” their sob story while claiming his Ministry giving them $400 every 3 month is generous. He family subsequently raised $27K on crowdfund, hence making TCJ and his Ministry look worse then Jews.

3) 3)Last Year, it was revealed that Immigration opened up special lanes for TCJ and his grassroot entourage coming back from a Johor durian trip, and bypass passport and security control. He never apologized, and even claimed that oppo MP Png Eng Huat was stirring hate and anger by pointing this out. If the opposite had happened and an oppo MP accused a PAP MP of stirring hate and anger, he would have been sued for libel.

4) 4)A few years ago, he showed his religious nuttism by publishing the entire text of Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 on his official Facebook page. There were many people who criticized this as the govt of Singapore is a secular govt and not a religious one. Hence a Minister cannot be seen to favour one religion over any other. If Halimah Yacob were to constantly quote long passages of the Koran on her official Facebook page, do you think she would have been nominated President.


Consider the following. Halimah Yacob is already 63 years old. By the time her impending Presidential term ends, she will be 68 years or older depending on when they call the next PE. By that time, she will almost certainly step down and a new Presidential candidate will be put up. Who better for the PAP to fly the flag then TCJ? He would have been Speaker for 5 years or so. Away from the bright lights and lightning rods of whatever Ministry he is in. As Speaker, he is automatically qualified to run in the PE, and as a 100% Chinese candidate, he will also fulfill the ethnicity requirement. Most important, being parked in the post of Speaker will prevent him from shooting himself in the foot with stupid comments relating to his Ministry and other activities. I think he will most likely be the next President after Halimah.



Just my 2 cents worth

Next President? He will be the next MAS or GIC Chairman and get quadruple the salary he lost. Then he can topple Hongyi or his "mate" Kee Chiu.
 

jw5

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According to "Old Man" many years ago, Singapore was "not ready". :wink:

The great Tang Dynasty collapsed because a non-Han Chinese was appointed into the most inner sanctum of the Throne. Ann Lu Shan created havoc and ultimately caused the weakening and collapse of the Dynasty though he lost in his rebellion.

Does Singapore dare elect a non-Han Chinese as PM?
 

chucky

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It also confirms that LHL likes to move people around and enjoys the feeling of power it gives him.

There is no disagreement with what you say. This TCJ incidents confirms a few things:

THAT generally, Generals (pun intended) don't make good leaders outside of the army camp. At best, they were paper generals or in TCJ case, he delivered aid merchandise to Indonesia and made it sound like he conquered part of Indonesia.

THAT the PAP search (tea) parties for talent replacement under their current system is screwed. At each election, they keep saying that the new leaders are needed but wave after wave of these messiahs have all fallen along the wayside. When Bargain Hen was first recruited, he was touted as a LKY look-alike and potential successor. What they found was a hare-brained minister who was also beyond his depth.

THAT racism exists at the cabinet level. The two likely successors should be Tharman or Shanmmugam vs the likes of Kee Chiu, Goldfish Heng Swee Kiat or Ong Ye Kung. VB's batch have also been found out to be rubbish. They keep feeding us that Sinkies won't accept Indians.

THAT the PAP brand is very smelly. The upper crust are happy to partake in the pie but will not be associated any closer than that in helping to make the pie. Led by very very weak leadership running around like headless chickens, our future is made.
 

jw5

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Hongyi will not be there to be toppled, he will be thriving in the private sector. :biggrin:

Next President? He will be the next MAS or GIC Chairman and get quadruple the salary he lost. Then he can topple Hongyi or his "mate" Kee Chiu.
 

virus

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100% agree with you! Muslim Halimah apart from her religion is indeed a very "safe" bet because her looks and figure kill off any would-be erections. So unlikely to steal-eat. As for TCJ apart from being a devout Christian, his good-looking wife takes good care of his needs! Above all both speakers always speak well of the ruling party.lol.

pls lor.. any staunch moslem leeder would have stare down her neck and bellyhole with horror. inconcievable.
 

chucky

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Even if he works for his father, he will be moved around like everyone else. But in his case, perhaps upwards.

Hongyi will not be there to be toppled, he will be thriving in the private sector. :biggrin:
 

ThePimp

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Based on your analysis, it goes to show he is not a saint and thus easily fallible. Nobody knows what future lies for a useless speaker and one thing is certain, he will become too free and may just ended like Michael Palmer or some kind of a scandal, or may be another Teo Ser Luck kind of outcome. As long as LHL is a moron, hell can still break loose.

TCJ won't have any indiscretions. At most he will be naïve and believe everything his grassroots leaders tell him.
 

jw5

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Nothing new. There are plenty of naïve people among pap members, grassroot leaders, current and former civil servants, internet gossipers, etc. :biggrin:

TCJ won't have any indiscretions. At most he will be naïve and believe everything his grassroots leaders tell him.
 

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It also confirms that LHL likes to move people around and enjoys the feeling of power it gives him.

when you move people around, they cannot develop their own powerbase and fiefdom in their area. That is an old trick that Gay Loong learnt from Old Fart
 

Wunderfool

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LHL already has in mind who will be the next PM. The smart ones like Tharman knows it and self declares that he would not want to be the next PM. Those who do not know should have known by now already if they understand why they are where they are now . CCS and TCJ are out. Better for OYK and NCM to self declare that they are happy to serve in whatever role PM assigns , but for PM role , it is a role that needs serous consideration and is best given to the best leader in the cabinet and they humbly accept that they are not the best. That will please LHL .
 
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JohnTan

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LHL already has in mind who will be the next PM. The smart ones like Tharman knows it and self dcalres that he would not want to be the next PM. Those who do not know should have known by now already if they understand why they are where they are now . CCS and TCJ are out. Better for OYK and NCM to self declare that they are happy to serve in whatever role PM assigns , but for PM role , it is a role that needs serous consideration and is best given to the best leader in the cabinet and they humbly accept that they are not the best. That will please LHL .

I am betting on Kee Chiu, but hedging my bets by investing time with NCM's camp. Not confident in Desmond Lee and OYK, though I still make it a point to be polite with them when I meet them during grassroots events. I've almost completely brushed off TCJ and give him only a cursory nod when we interact. Not worth it to even waste a 'hello' on a fallen guy.
 

virus

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OYK, Sam Tan, desperate Lee will be fixed. Kee chiu alrdy taking the throne to speak as if he is the next emperor.
 

Satyr

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Everyone, including all of us here, are fiddling while Rome burns. Or to use another metaphor, the government is re-arranging deckchairs on the Titanic. The only problem is, we are the passengers and they have dibs on the lifeboats. TCJ, HY are all sideshows to the real issues. Don't waste time on these stupid things. We are just scratching an itch.
 

Papsmearer

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Everyone, including all of us here, are fiddling while Rome burns. Or to use another metaphor, the government is re-arranging deckchairs on the Titanic. The only problem is, we are the passengers and they have dibs on the lifeboats. TCJ, HY are all sideshows to the real issues. Don't waste time on these stupid things. We are just scratching an itch.

There is no dispute to what u say, the PAP are re -arranging deck chairs on the titanic. But these side shows are important. they indicate the rate of ship sinking and the remaining time that is left. For example, as these sideshows continue, do you think the ship will sink faster if Tharm was appointed the next PM (even in a seat warming capacity) or if Kee Chiu was the next PM. I think the answer is obvious. That is why its important to note the wayangs.
 

virus

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According to braddel brothel paper general tan tio tb, is that retribution or what? Now demoted to speaker means remaining days? If he speak n all inside cabaret tio tb now? Dy speaker 1 dy speaker 2?
 

jw5

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According to braddel brothel paper general tan tio tb, is that retribution or what? Now demoted to speaker means remaining days? If he speak n all inside cabaret tio tb now? Dy speaker 1 dy speaker 2?
 

ThePimp

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I am betting on Kee Chiu, but hedging my bets by investing time with NCM's camp. Not confident in Desmond Lee and OYK, though I still make it a point to be polite with them when I meet them during grassroots events. I've almost completely brushed off TCJ and give him only a cursory nod when we interact. Not worth it to even waste a 'hello' on a fallen guy.

Always curry favour with the flavour of the day. If Kee Chiu ever falters, quickly move on to the next one.
 
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