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Serious Emergency! LHL need to sponsor Trump's secret service budget bankrupted by next week!

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d30132-868c-11e7-961d-2f373b3977ee_story.html


Secret Service says it will run out of money to protect Trump and his family Sept. 30

A U.S. Secret Service special agent cleans the windshield of the presidential limousine in March at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Fla. (Alex Brandon/AP)
By Lisa Rein August 21 at 2:37 PM

The Secret Service said Monday that it has enough money to cover the cost of protecting President Trump and his family through the end of September, but after that the agency will hit a federally mandated cap on salaries and overtime unless Congress intervenes.

If lawmakers don’t lift the cap, about a third of the agency’s agents would be working overtime without being paid, agency officials said.

“The Secret Service estimates that roughly 1,100 employees will work overtime hours in excess of statutory pay caps during calendar year 2017,” Director Randolph “Tex” Alles said in a statement. “To remedy this ongoing and serious problem, the agency has worked closely with the Department of Homeland Security, the Administration, and the Congress over the past several months to find a legislative solution.”

The spending limits are supposed to last through December, but the cost of protecting the president and members of the extended first family, who have traveled extensively for business and vacations, has strained the Secret Service, local governments and at least one other federal agency, the Coast Guard.

Presidential travel for Trump and the first lady — who fly to their oceanfront Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Fla., and to their golf club in Bedminster, N.J., on many weekends — has added costs for taxpayers and complications for the government. The Secret Service also must provide protection for Trump’s four adult children.

Alles cited overall increases to his agency’s staff levels, which grew by 800 this year, as a factor driving the extra costs, calling the issue “not one that can be attributed to the current Administration’s protection requirements alone.”

[Trump family’s elaborate lifestyle a ‘logistical nightmare’ at taxpayers’ expense]

He noted that the Secret Service in recent years has frequently received permission from Congress to exceed the overtime and salary cap. This occurred as recently as 2016 during President Barack Obama’s final year in office.

Alles called the agency’s current predicament, first reported by USA Today, “an ongoing issue for nearly a decade due to an overall increase in operational tempo.”

Without question, however, the agency’s workload for security personnel has grown under Trump. The Secret Service now protects 42 people around the clock, 11 more than it did under Obama. The Trump protection number includes 18 members of the president’s family.

The cap has been exceeded by at least some amount in recent years, but fewer agents were affected, usually 300, compared with 1,300 in 2016, when agents protected Obama, Hillary Clinton and Trump during the campaign, according to the office of Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (D-Md.), the top Democrat on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

Since he took office, the president’s inclination to conduct official business with crowds around him — such as a working dinner he held in February with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe at Mar-a-Lago with diners nearby — has required protection. The far-flung travel of his four adult children and son-in-law also have pushed up security costs.

Trump’s sons Eric and Donald Jr. traveled this year to the United Arab Emirates for business with their Secret Service details in tow, attending the grand opening of a Trump-brand golf resort in the “Beverly Hills of Dubai” 8,000 miles from the United States, for example.

Meanwhile, first lady Melania Trump stayed behind in New York with the president’s youngest son, Barron, for the first five months of his presidency, requiring extra security at Trump Tower.

[Secret Service asked for $60 million extra next year to protect Trump’s family]

Presidential families have for decades been guaranteed round-the-clock protection, with no limit on expenses. Every presidency has brought new security challenges, depending on the president’s lifestyle. President George W. Bush traveled to his remote ranch in Texas. Obama went regularly to Martha’s Vineyard and his native state of Hawaii. Judicial Watch estimated that Obama-related travel expenses totaled nearly $97 million over eight years.

The Secret Service, beset by years of budget short*ages, low morale and leadership shake-ups, requested $60 million in additional funding for the next year to protect the Trump entourage.

Nearly half the additional money, $26.8 million, would pay to protect President Trump’s family and private home in New York’s Trump Tower, documents obtained by The Washington Post show, while $33 million would be spent on travel costs incurred by “the president, vice president and other visiting heads of state.”

The Coast Guard has run round-the-clock shoreline patrols alongside Mar-a-Lago when the president is in town.

[Guarding Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club by air and sea has cost taxpayers $6.6*million]

Republican and Democrats said Monday they are concerned about deepening demands on the agency and pledged a fix that could be permanent.

“Mr. Cummings and I have spoken twice this morning about our mutual desire to see the Secret Service funded and the agents treated fairly while acknowledging the difficult and important job they have,” Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) said in a statement.

Cummings said in a statement that he plans to introduce legislation that would allow the agency to exceed the mandated caps on a regular basis.

“The hardworking men and women of the Secret Service put their lives on the line every day, and it is a travesty that they are not being paid for the hours they work,” he said. “Congress cannot stand on the sidelines and complain — we need to act to ensure that Secret Service agents get every penny they deserve, period.”
 

Shut Up you are Not MM

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Re: Emergency! LHL need to sponsor Trump's secret service budget bankrupted by next w

How can Singapore or any part of the world expect any Realistic Protection from USA when USA can not even have budget to protect their own president and white house?
 

tanwahtiu

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Re: Emergency! LHL need to sponsor Trump's secret service budget bankrupted by next w

They hv budgeted it but this blondie hv excess luggages to protect exceed the budget.

They say blondie are stupid this one proof it.
 

eatshitndie

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Re: Emergency! LHL need to sponsor Trump's secret service budget bankrupted by next w

it's ok. i'll retire by then.
 

virus

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After his boss putin fired hundreds of diplomats to shave expenses still not enough? Dont worry he wont b needing yje security, the 5th amendment people will not shoot him, he dont need guards, pls place all of the trump train inside an asylum they will b safe
 

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Re: Emergency! LHL need to sponsor Trump's secret service budget bankrupted by next w

This made Pyongyang's Kim very excited he would order some VX baby oil for his best friend in White House.

Also this guy can have best chance now to execute his White House attack plan:

http://ktla.com/2017/08/13/venezuelan-presidents-son-threatens-to-seize-white-house-with-rifles/



Venezuelan President’s Son Threatens to Seize White House With Rifles
Posted 6:58 AM, August 13, 2017, by CNN Wire

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Nicolás Maduro Guerra, the son of the Venezuelan President, is threatening to seize the White House with rifles if President Donald Trump sends the US military to his nation.

Venezuelan Constituent Assembly’s member Nicolas Maduro Guerra, son of Venezulan President Nicolas Maduro, walks before a session in Caracas on Aug. 8, 2017. (Credit: Juan Barreto / AFP / Getty Images)

The White House has condemned President Nicolás Maduro’s regime for human rights abuses. More than 120 people have died in anti-government protests since April.

Last week, Trump said he would not rule out the possibility of a military intervention in Venezuela.

“Venezuela is not very far away and the people are suffering, and they are dying. We have many options for Venezuela, including a possible military option if necessary,” Trump told reporters at his New Jersey golf club.

President Maduro’s son responded to Trump on Saturday, but appeared confused on the location of the White House.

“If the unlikely event of defiling the homeland came to pass, the rifles would arrive in New York, ” he told Venezuelan state media.

“Mr. Trump, we would arrive and take the White House.”
No orders



 

Tony Tan

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Re: Emergency! LHL need to sponsor Trump's secret service budget bankrupted by next w

Why no other countries ever had such a problem except US? This sort of issue is never heard of, and unimaginable.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...rumps-frequent-travel-large-family/529075001/


Exclusive: Secret Service depletes funds to pay agents because of Trump's frequent travel, large family
Kevin Johnson, USA TODAY Published 5:00 a.m. ET Aug. 21, 2017 | Updated 5:20 p.m. ET Aug. 21, 2017

Secret Service Director Randolph "Tex" Alles tells USA TODAY more than 1,000 agents have already hit the salary and overtime allowance meant to last the entire year. USA TODAY
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WASHINGTON — The Secret Service can no longer pay hundreds of agents it needs to carry out an expanded protective mission – in large part due to the sheer size of President Trump's family and efforts necessary to secure their multiple residences up and down the East Coast.

Secret Service Director Randolph "Tex" Alles, in an interview with USA TODAY, said more than 1,000 agents have already hit the federally mandated caps for salary and overtime allowances that were meant to last the entire year.

The agency has faced a crushing workload since the height of the contentious election season, and it has not relented in the first seven months of the administration. Agents must protect Trump – who has traveled almost every weekend to his properties in Florida, New Jersey and Virginia – and his adult children whose business trips and vacations have taken them across the country and overseas.

"The president has a large family, and our responsibility is required in law,'' Alles said. "I can't change that. I have no flexibility.''

Alles said the service is grappling with an unprecedented number of White House protectees. Under Trump, 42 people have protection, a number that includes 18 members of his family. That's up from 31 during the Obama administration.

Overwork and constant travel have also been driving a recent exodus from the Secret Service ranks, yet without congressional intervention to provide additional funding, Alles will not even be able to pay agents for the work they have already done.

The compensation crunch is so serious that the director has begun discussions with key lawmakers to raise the combined salary and overtime cap for agents, from $160,000 per year to $187,000 for at least the duration of Trump's first term.

But even if such a proposal was approved, about 130 veteran agents would not be fully compensated for hundreds of hours already amassed, according to the agency.

"I don't see this changing in the near term,'' Alles said.

Both Republican and Democratic lawmakers expressed deep concern for the continuing stress on the agency, first thrust into turmoil five years ago with disclosures about sexual misconduct by agents in Colombia and subsequent White House security breaches.

A special investigative panel formed after a particularly egregious 2014 White House breach also found that that agents and uniform officers worked "an unsustainable number of hours,'' which also contributed to troubling attrition rates.

While about 800 agents and uniformed officers were hired during the past year as part of an ongoing recruiting blitz to bolster the ranks, attrition limited the agency's net staffing gain to 300, according to agency records. And last year, Congress had to approve a one-time fix to ensure that 1,400 agents would be compensated for thousands of hours of overtime earned above compensation limits. Last year's compensation shortfall was first disclosed by USA TODAY.

"It is clear that the Secret Service's demands will continue to be higher than ever throughout the Trump administration,'' said Jennifer Werner, a spokesperson for Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings.

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Cummings, the ranking Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee who was the first lawmaker to sound the alarm after last year's disclosure that hundreds of agents had maxed out on pay, recently spoke with Alles and pledged support for a more permanent fix, Werner said.

"We cannot expect the Secret Service to be able to recruit and keep the best of the best if they are not being paid for these increases (in overtime hours)."

South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy, the Republican chairman of the House oversight panel, is "working with other committees of jurisdiction to explore ways in which we can best support'' the Secret Service, his spokesperson Amanda Gonzalez said.

Talks also are underway in the Senate, where the Secret Service has briefed members of the Homeland Security Committee, which directly oversees the the agency's operations.

"Ensuring the men and women who put their lives on the line protecting the president, his family and others every day are getting paid fairly for their work is a priority,'' said Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, the panel's top Democrat. "I'm committed to working with my colleagues on both sides to get this done.''

Without some legislative relief, though, at least 1,100 agents – for now – would not be eligible for overtime even as one of the agency's largest protective assignments looms next month. Nearly 150 foreign heads of state are expected to converge on New York City for the United Nations General Assembly.

Because of the sheer number of high-level dignitaries, the United Nations gathering is traditionally designated by the U.S., as a "National Special Security Event" and requires a massive deployment of security resources managed by the Secret Service.

That will be even trickier this year. "Normally, we are not this tapped out,'' said Alles, whom Trump appointed to his post in April.

The agents who have reached their compensation limits this year represent about a third of the Secret Service workforce, which was pressed last year to secure both national political conventions in the midst of a rollicking campaign cycle. The campaign featured regular clashes involving protesters at Trump rallies across the country, prompting the Secret Service at one point to erect bike racks as buffers around stages to thwart potential rushes from people in the crowd.

Officials had hoped that the agency's workload would normalize after the inauguration, but the president's frequent weekend trips, his family's business travel and the higher number of protectees has made that impossible.
Banke International director Niraj Masand, far left, poses for a photo with Eric Trump, second left, Banke International director Porush Jhunjhunwala, center, Donald Trump Jr., second right, and DAMAC Properties chairman Hussain Sajwani, during festivities marking the formal opening of the Trump International Golf Club, in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, on Feb. 18, 2017. Two of U.S. President Trump's sons arrived in the UAE for an invitation-only ceremony to formally open the club. Uncredited, AP

Since his inauguration, Trump has taken seven trips to his estate in Mar-a-Lago, Fla., traveled to his Bedminster, N.J., golf club five times and returned to Trump Tower in Manhattan once.

Trump's frequent visits to his "winter White House" and "summer White House" are especially challenging for the agency, which must maintain a regular security infrastructure at each – while still allowing access to paying members and guests.

Always costly in manpower and equipment, the president's jaunts to Mar-a-Lago are estimated to cost at least $3 million each, based on a General Accounting Office estimate for similar travel by former President Obama. The Secret Service has spent some $60,000 on golf cart rentals alone this year to protect Trump at both Mar-a-Lago and Bedminster.

The president, First Lady Melania Trump and the couple's youngest son Barron – who maintained a separate detail in Trump Tower until June – aren't the only ones on the move with full-time security details in tow.

Trump's other sons, Trump Organization executives Donald Jr. and Eric, based in New York, also are covered by security details, including when they travel frequently to promote Trump-branded properties in other countries.

A few examples: Earlier this year, Eric Trump's business travel to Uruguay cost the Secret Service nearly $100,000 just for hotel rooms. Other trips included the United Kingdom and the Dominican Republic. In February, both sons and their security details traveled to Vancouver, British Columbia, for the opening of new Trump hotel there, and to Dubai to officially open a Trump International Golf Club.

In March, security details accompanied part of the family, including Ivanka Trump and husband Jared Kushner on a skiing vacation in Aspen, Colo. Even Tiffany Trump, the president's younger daughter, took vacations with her boyfriend to international locales such as Germany and Hungary, which also require Secret Service protection.
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Secret Service agents rush Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump off the stage at a campaign rally in Reno, Nev., on Nov. 5, 2016. (Photo: John Locher, AP)

While Alles has characterized the security challenges posed by the Trump administration as a new "reality" of the agency's mission, the former Marine Corps major general said he has discussed the agency's staffing limitations with the White House so that security operations are not compromised by a unusually busy travel schedule.

"They understand,'' Alles said. "They accommodate to the degree they can and to the degree that it can be controlled. They have been supportive the whole time.''

Over time, Alles expects the Secret Service's continued hiring campaign will gradually relieve the pressure. From its current force of 6,800 agents and uniform officers, the goal is to reach 7,600 by 2019 and 9,500 by 2025.

"We're making progress,'' he said.

For now, Alles is focused simply on ensuring that his current agents will be paid for the work they have already done.

"We have them working all night long; we're sending them on the road all of the time,'' Alles said. "There are no quick fixes, but over the long term, I've got to give them a better balance (of work and private life) here."

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Re: Emergency! LHL need to sponsor Trump's secret service budget bankrupted by next w

So after next week, Trump can only visit his nuclear bunker? If he goes anywhere else without bodyguards, the libs will taupok him?
 

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Re: Emergency! LHL need to sponsor Trump's secret service budget bankrupted by next w

What's wrong with "collecting more money" is Trump's philosophy.

The secret service has to pay Trump for rental space when they are guarding Trump/family at Trump Tower. Lobbyists who want to talk to Trump chose to to stay in the Trump hotels because they think it gives them access to him.
 
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