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    Lim Tean suddenly burst onto SG's politics with impressive and courageous rhetorics. We need Singapore politicians like Lim Tean. He has made many good remarks

    My question is:

    Is Lim Tean sincere and as good as he Sounds? If he is, he is a hero!

    or could he be a pap mole out to divide SG Opposition?

    Is Lim Tean a hero or villain?

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    Lim Tean joined NSP then resigned suddenly. He is now seen with SDP.

    Is LT a hero to make a significant positive impact on SG or is he just another pap mole.

    Can Lim Tean help Singaporeans break PAP's stranglehold and liberate SG from PAP's cronyism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckmpd View Post
    Lim Tean joined NSP then resigned suddenly. He is now seen with SDP.

    Is LT a hero to make a significant positive impact on SG or is he just another pap mole.

    Can Lim Tean help Singaporeans break PAP's stranglehold and liberate SG from PAP's cronyism?
    cannot.. it will rot from within.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virus View Post
    cannot.. it will rot from within.
    cannot what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckmpd View Post
    Lim Tean suddenly burst onto SG's politics with impressive and courageous rhetorics. We need Singapore politicians like Lim Tean. He has made many good remarks

    My question is:

    Is Lim Tean sincere and as good as he Sounds? If he is, he is a hero!

    or could he be a pap mole out to divide SG Opposition?

    Is Lim Tean a hero or villain?
    Lim Tean is an eloquent speaker. He made quite an impression during his GE speeches. Calm, confident and he pressed his points home. However, his team mates are quite dubious. The outstanding one was the lunatic who booed PAP and that bimbo. As long as Lim Tean is with NSP, he is destined to remain a loser. Good that he left them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTan View Post
    Lim Tean is an eloquent speaker. He made quite an impression during his GE speeches. Calm, confident and he pressed his points home. However, his team mates are quite dubious. The outstanding one was the lunatic who booed PAP and that bimbo. As long as Lim Tean is with NSP, he is destined to remain a loser. Good that he left them.
    Yes. Lim Tean sounds good

    But pap is known to play dirty tricks to get an unfair advantage

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckmpd View Post
    Yes. Lim Tean sounds good

    But pap is known to play dirty tricks to get an unfair advantage
    You will be often disappointed if you expected people to play fair. PAP is the ruling party. As the ruling party, the PAP has natural access to state organs and the mass media. PAP can give itself a lot of media coverage just simply by making official statements in the course of carrying out their duties as the government.

    In this era of democracy, constant media coverage and being a member of a main political party conveys a huge advantage. Trump even said that he could shoot someone dead and still win the elections, inferring of course to his membership to the GOP and the constant media attention he receives.

    The oppies have to get used to playing to an uneven field and win it. Famous people in the past have won despite having the odds stacked against them. Sinkies expect similarly of the oppies. No use whining about an unfair playing field. Sinkies are not going to help you get your level playing field. If you want it, you have to get it yourself.

    At the end of the day, there's nothing to stop you from voting against the PAP except yourself. No one is threatening you with violence or loss of your livelihood for voting according to your choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTan View Post
    You will be often disappointed if you expected people to play fair. PAP is the ruling party. As the ruling party, the PAP has natural access to state organs and the mass media. PAP can give itself a lot of media coverage just simply by making official statements in the course of carrying out their duties as the government.

    In this era of democracy, constant media coverage and being a member of a main political party conveys a huge advantage. Trump even said that he could shoot someone dead and still win the elections, inferring of course to his membership to the GOP and the constant media attention he receives.

    The oppies have to get used to playing to an uneven field and win it. Famous people in the past have won despite having the odds stacked against them. Sinkies expect similarly of the oppies. No use whining about an unfair playing field. Sinkies are not going to help you get your level playing field. If you want it, you have to get it yourself.

    At the end of the day, there's nothing to stop you from voting against the PAP except yourself. No one is threatening you with violence or loss of your livelihood for voting according to your choice.
    Misusing state organs is playing dirty

    Abusing authority must be censured

    Manipulating the Constitution must be exposed

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckmpd View Post
    Misusing state organs is playing dirty

    Abusing authority must be censured

    Manipulating the Constitution must be exposed
    They are not misusing the state organs. If a PAP minister rolls out a new policy, he gains media coverage simply by making a press conference. It's the same in any other country. The flipside is if the policy turns out the be bad, then he and the party gets the blame. That's how governments in other democracies get voted out.

    PAP has not systematically abused authority. Corrupted individual PAP leaders have been fired from the party and charged in court. Otherwise, they are made to resign or are reassigned to less important portfolio as a form of light punishment.

    The Constitution can be amended at will by the PAP because sinkies believe that giving PAP super-majorities in parliament is the best way for singapore to be governed. If you don't want PAP to amend the constitution at will, then stop giving them over 70% of the parliamentary seats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTan View Post
    They are not misusing the state organs. If a PAP minister rolls out a new policy, he gains media coverage simply by making a press conference. It's the same in any other country. The flipside is if the policy turns out the be bad, then he and the party gets the blame. That's how governments in other democracies get voted out.

    PAP has not systematically abused authority. Corrupted individual PAP leaders have been fired from the party and charged in court. Otherwise, they are made to resign or are reassigned to less important portfolio as a form of light punishment.

    The Constitution can be amended at will by the PAP because sinkies believe that giving PAP super-majorities in parliament is the best way for singapore to be governed. If you don't want PAP to amend the constitution at will, then stop giving them over 70% of the parliamentary seats.
    PAP may think that what they do is not abuse of authority

    PAP may think that pushing through a Reserved EP is not manipulating the Constitution

    PAP may think forming secret committees is not misusing state organs against people it doesnt like

    PAP may think that abusing Parliament proceedings to clear LHL is not abusing state organ

    Let pap think wrongly and continue to misuse, abuse and manipulate.

    The issue in this thread is whether Lim Tean will turn out to be a hero fighting for Singaporeans or a villain, a pap mole. The issue here is not to regurgitate the misdeeds of the pap
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTan View Post
    No use whining about an unfair playing field. Sinkies are not going to help you get your level playing field. If you want it, you have to get it yourself.
    are you inciting rebellion in the ranks of dumbfuck singos? Have you not sucked your establishment cock today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckmpd View Post
    Misusing state organs is playing dirty
    No

    Getting 5 banglas to roll you in flour to find ur wetspot and hammer it for 8 hour straight is dirty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHolmesJr View Post
    are you inciting rebellion in the ranks of dumbfuck singos? Have you not sucked your establishment cock today?
    Perhaps John Tan is paid to defend pap here

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHolmesJr View Post
    No

    Getting 5 banglas to roll you in flour to find ur wetspot and hammer it for 8 hour straight is dirty.
    Both are confirmed dirty

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHolmesJr View Post
    are you inciting rebellion in the ranks of dumbfuck singos? Have you not sucked your establishment cock today?
    My role is to pacify the dumfuck sinkies and to report back to my masters at the first sign of rebellion.

    Quote Originally Posted by ckmpd View Post
    Perhaps John Tan is paid to defend pap here
    They have to pay me a lot more than 50 cents per post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTan View Post



    They have to pay me a lot more than 50 cents per post.
    I think pap pays its moles much more than you can ever dream

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckmpd View Post
    I think pap pays its moles much more than you can ever dream
    Many suspect there is at least one PAP mole in WP and NSP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckmpd View Post
    Many suspect there is at least one PAP mole in WP and NSP.
    The WP mole. It's written on her face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTan View Post
    The WP mole. It's written on her face.

    There is a mole. But she is not pap's mole

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