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Chitchat Johor Sultan Tries To Fuck Up Sinkie-Jiuhu Railway! Reveals Separatist Intentions!

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MERSING: The Sultan of Johor has serious reservations on the proposed design of the Rapid Transit System (RTS) rail track, including an elevated bridge, linking Woodlands in Singapore and Bukit Chagar, Johor Baru.

In an exclusive interview with the New Straits Times Press Group, Sultan Ibrahim Sultan Iskandar said while he welcomed the project, he disagreed with the overall curve-shaped design of the track, as well the plan to build the bridge as high as 30m above water in the middle section.

The bridge, he said, would disrupt the city skyline along the Johor Straits.

"It disrupts the city skyline, and we are talking about a permanent fixture here. Go back to the drawing board and review the overall plan.

"The parties also have to consult me. Whatever (new plan) is presented to me, it will have to be logical, economical and sustainable for the benefit of not only Johoreans but all Malaysians and Singaporeans," he said.

Sultan Ibrahim said the proposed curved design of the rail link as well as the elevated bridge was impractical, unsustainable and potentially costly.

"Why do we have to have a curved design when we can have a more practical design that is straighter and closer to the Causeway?

"Why do they need an elevated bridge with up to 30m air draft (clearance height from water to a vessel's height) unless there are plans to remove the Causeway?

"I am proposing that the design be aligned as such for practicality and it will cost less," he said.

During the interview, Sultan Ibrahim also sketched a design he felt was more practical than the one proposed.

"The design matters to us and by ‘us’, I mean Johor."

The new design, he said, could be the same height as the Causeway or be slightly elevated.

Sultan Ibrahim also questioned the need for both countries to have separate contractors to build portions of the link in their respective countries. Instead, he suggested that the project be undertaken by a single contractor through a joint venture between the two countries.

He said he would bring up his concerns over the design in a meeting with Singaporean prime minister Lee Hsien Loong next month. Sultan Ibrahim said he would then bring up points from his discussion with Lee with the Malaysian government and the media.

"Unless you live in Johor, you won't understand the Johor sentiment."

The RTS rail link was announced by the Malaysian and Singaporean governments seven years ago to provide a much needed alternative to the 80,000 to 100,000 people who commute at the Malaysia-Singapore Causeway daily.

The RTS is expected to accommodate up to 10,000 passengers an hour in each direction between its terminus stations at Bukit Chagar, Johor Baru and Woodlands, Singapore.

On the Singapore side, the rail link will join the republic's Mass Rapid Transit at its upcoming Thomson East Coast line (TEL).

The 31-station TEL project will open in phases from 2019 to 2024.

On July 31, Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Abdul Rahman Dahlan said during the Joint Ministerial Committee for Iskandar Malaysia (JMCIM) that Malaysia and Singapore would sign a bilateral agreement on the RTS in December this year, paving the way for the project to begin ferrying passengers by December 2024.

Officials have agreed to jointly appoint an operating company to run and maintain the cross border line's operating systems, which include its trains, tracks and signalling system. Singapore has invited SMRT Corp, while Malaysia has asked Prasarana Malaysia Bhd, whose subsidiary runs the Sungai Buloh-Kajang MRT Line through Kuala Lumpur.

Both operators are negotiating terms for the joint venture, which will have a first concession period of 30 years. Each government will also appoint an infrastructure company to fund, build, own, maintain and upgrade the civil infrastructure and stations in their own countries.

"Why must it be Prasarana? Why not the Johor government? Please remember that land is a state matter. My priority is the people of Johor: that they are happy with what is being decided."


Sultan Ibrahim, who stressed during the interview that he was in total agreement with the project, said the Johor government should undertake a joint-venture with Singapore.

“The project is entirely in Johor; so why should Prasarana be involved? Let the Johor government and Singapore have a joint-venture and I can raise funds if need be.”

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/exclusive-sultan-johor-rts-design-000036686.html
 
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scroobal

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Re: Johor Sultan Tries To Fuck Up Sinkie-Jiuhu Railway! Reveals Separatist Intentions

At least he is not sitting on his butt and inhaling free air. He makes more sense than so many of our Ministers.
 

JohnTan

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The old fart has separatist intentions. It's just a continuation of his past spat with putrajaya. He is probably edging Johor closer and closer to leaving Lian Bang.
 

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Johore Sultan is not happy that Singapore Ministers signed agreement with Malaysia corrupted UMNO without pre consultation with Johore Palace.

dont forget that Johor is Singapore nearest ally.
After alienating China, do we still want to antagonize Johore? what do we gain?
 

JohnTan

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Johore Sultan is not happy that Singapore Ministers signed agreement with Malaysia corrupted UMNO without pre consultation with Johore Palace.

dont forget that Johor is Singapore nearest ally.
After alienating China, do we still want to antagonize Johore? what do we gain?

Why the fuck do we need to consult with the atap longhouse of some johor village chief? Why is Johor our ally with their small handful of palace guards?

We are better off allying with Najib and UMNO.
 

numero uno

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At least he is not sitting on his butt and inhaling free air. He makes more sense than so many of our Ministers.

what he says makes lots of sense and full of logic. why make a long winded ugly crooked bridge?? I thought those sinkies ministars stole mahathir idea who wanted a crooked bridge first of all and to demolish the causeway!!!! What Irony now that sinkie officials want it.hahhahahha karma
 

tanwahtiu

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Stupid m&d use tunnel is cheaper and collect more money. When quarrel shut the tunnel thats it.

Such a small stretch of useless water wzys shd reclaim and connect it. Dont like ea h other or quarrel build trump walls then.
 

Victory2016

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Both Malaysia and Singapore sidelined the Sultan in their haste to complete the deal.

Our incompetent leaders had forgotten that all land issues need the Sultan's approval and that he has the right to expel any non-Johorean from his state. Imagine the Sultan refusing entry rights to all the workers of the MRT, including Malaysians.

Seems MFA had failed to educate our Transportation planners.

In any event, Pinky should be held accountable. But then, he is a guy who could hug Thaksin or his sister one moment and at the next moment give medals to the Coup Generals of Thailand......
 

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At least he is not sitting on his butt and inhaling free air. He makes more sense than so many of our Ministers.

u dun think money n other spinoffs cud be the hidden agenda?
 

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I dont think the Sultan has ever hidden the fact that he is also a business man. He has JV businesses with the Chinese and Peter Lim among many others. The stupid Sinkie politicians don't realise that they should be doing a JV with the Sultan and his companies. However in the PAP minsters haste to pave the way for their contractor CC and RC cronies to get the lucrative contracts, they completely overlooked a small fact of who the boss is in Johore. Sheer idiocy and naivety of these PAP million dollar minsters never fails to amaze!


u dun think money n other spinoffs cud be the hidden agenda?
 

JohnTan

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Re: Johor Sultan Tries To Fuck Up Sinkie-Jiuhu Railway! Reveals Separatist Intentions

I dont think the Sultan has ever hidden the fact that he is also a business man. He has JV businesses with the Chinese and Peter Lim among many others. The stupid Sinkie politicians don't realise that they should be doing a JV with the Sultan and his companies. However in the PAP minsters haste to pave the way for their contractor CC and RC cronies to get the lucrative contracts, they completely overlooked a small fact of who the boss is in Johore. Sheer idiocy and naivety of these PAP million dollar minsters never fails to amaze!

Should we replace this pesky sultan with a more pliant one?
 

Pek Kim Lui

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one cuntry 2 system?
ah jib got get wp permission?
 

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I'll say it before anyone else; "This would never have happened if LKY was still in charge"

He understood which palms to grease :wink:
 

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Johor Sultan Tries To Fuck Up Sinkie-Jiuhu Railway! Reveals Separatist Intentions

I dont think the Sultan has ever hidden the fact that he is also a business man. He has JV businesses with the Chinese and Peter Lim among many others. The stupid Sinkie politicians don't realise that they should be doing a JV with the Sultan and his companies....

are you hinting that this fatso has intention to buy over this constantly signal faulty train network
 

eatshitndie

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whole fiasco will go nowhere with all the cooks stirring the same soup in the same kitchen. expect all this to be resolved in year 2069.
 

scroobal

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I am waiting for Singapore to explain the reasons for the design. Its be quite interesting.

what he says makes lots of sense and full of logic. why make a long winded ugly crooked bridge?? I thought those sinkies ministars stole mahathir idea who wanted a crooked bridge first of all and to demolish the causeway!!!! What Irony now that sinkie officials want it.hahhahahha karma
 

tanwahtiu

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Land space reserved used for other development oredi. Lucky m&d get some lands for them.

And why m&d want to stick to same station. Mossie are stupid retard.

Next one will hv to be tunnel.


I am waiting for Singapore to explain the reasons for the design. Its be quite interesting.
 

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Pinky & Ah Jib Abang Adek after close KTM deal and even 1MDB help ah Jib stashed and launder money.
 

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The bridge designed is 30m high. That is 10 storey. Due to the height, the curved track is needed to increase the length so as to reduce the gradient of the climb.

More interesting is why so high? To clear passage for big container ship? Both causeways to be torn down?
 

eatshitndie

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The bridge designed is 30m high. That is 10 storey. Due to the height, the curved track is needed to increase the length so as to reduce the gradient of the climb.

More interesting is why so high? To clear passage for big container ship? Both causeways to be torn down?

multi-deck luxury yacht plus mast. better to dig underground and have undersea passage. sooner or later idiot ship pilot or captain will slam into bridge at night. stupid tiong ship already slammed into bay bridge some years ago. luckily suspension section was high enough to let ship pass through but it crashed into one of the major pillars and pillar was strong enough to take the blow but suffered damage. adding insult to injury there was a major oil spill. 30m bridge is not that high when you have morons owning ships and boats in the area.
 
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