Serious The strange phenomenon of mixed marriages in the Malay community, and repercussions

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Islam nations will rise again?? Hahahaha. Good joke to start my morning.

Muslim man wear t shirt and jeans while their wife covered from head to toe including a face veil. It is a curse to be born as a muslim woman. Muslim cannot even get such simple things right still want to talk about what.

Re: The strange phenomenon of mixed marriages in the Malay community, and repercussio

JohnTan said:

Are you quoting to us verses from the period when Muhammad was very weak? That part of the quran is very peaceful, just like the muslim minority in Singapore. It's okay to live in harmony with non-muslims, it is okay to leave islam, no compulsion in islam. But when muslims become the majority, those peaceful verses are revoked and you get the other side of islam. You want to leave islam? You will be killed. You want to be atheist, grassroots muslims are free to issue death threats and kill you. And blasphemy mobs are also the norm.

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CABcommander said:

Islam nations will rise again?? Hahahaha. Good joke to start my morning.

Muslim man wear t shirt and jeans while their wife covered from head to toe including a face veil. It is a curse to be born as a muslim woman. Muslim cannot even get such simple things right still want to talk about what.

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pundek just said ....aT LEAST SHE GOT 50% MELAYU BLOOD FLOWING FR HER CB
MUST BE BAD N EVIL BLOOD LYING LIKE PAK BODOH............. WAT FUGGING MOOSELIM IS DAT

Re: The strange phenomenon of mixed marriages in the Malay community, and repercussio

Re: The strange phenomenon of mixed marriages in the Malay community, and repercussio

JohnTan said:

Your cycle theory works only on hindsight assuming civilizations last long enough. Meso-American and Mexican civilizations cycle ended with the coming of the Spaniards. It's the same for the Zoroastrians of Persia and Buddhists of Afghanistan. Same for the Roman and Byzantines. Either wiped out, or reduced to an insignificant speck. No more cycle. The end. [...]

Seeing things as merely cycles is too simplistic. Not all societies last long enough to experience ups and downs. Some go up, then down and kaput. The chinks are just lucky to be one of the few civilizations that are large enough to make mistakes and not get wiped out.

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Those "civilisations" you cited were relatively tiny communities when compared to the 1.5 billion plus global Muslim ummah (larger than that of China's 1.3 billion). It would be a little naive or unrealistically hopeful of critics and detractors of the Muslim world to assume that this 1.5 billion (and growing) cannot change, will not evolve or improve, but instead, will willingly allow themselves to be consumed or subjugated by forces for eternity, or be "wiped out" or the entire ummah reduced to an "insignificant speck". The only way this can happen is through some cosmic strike on the planet or a devastating nuclear war. Both would result in the end of all civilisations so it wouldn't matter any more then.

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duluxe said:

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For fuck sake, don't hijack this thread and inject your tiresome "copy and paste" spammings into it.

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PTADER said:

Those "civilisations" you cited were relatively tiny communities when compared to the 1.5 billion plus global Muslim ummah (larger than that of China's 1.3 billion). It would be a little naive or unrealistically hopeful of critics and detractors of the Muslim world to assume that this 1.5 billion (and growing) cannot change, will not evolve or improve, but instead, will willingly allow themselves to be consumed or subjugated by forces for eternity, or be "wiped out" or the entire ummah reduced to an "insignificant speck". The only way this can happen is through some cosmic strike on the planet or a devastating nuclear war. Both would result in the end of all civilisations so it wouldn't matter any more then.

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Let us know when you see more examples of muslims confronting their shit-stirring mullahs and clerics, instead of keeping quiet or acting as their apologists. Then I will believe your theory that islam can change for the better and that this is a temporary down cycle for them. Otherwise, it just a way-way road to the cesspit for them and maybe for us, when their shit hits the fan.

So far, the intolerant islam seems to be winning, and the "moderates" seem happy about it, as they may see themselves as primary beneficiaries if an islamist system or pro-islamist system gets set up.

The islam that gives me a good impression is one that is distorted to present a tolerant and peaceful message when the ummah is a small speck. When left to its natural form, especially in all islamic majority societies, the majority ummah shows its true intolerant nature. We can already see it happening in malaysia and indonesia, and these societies are way more tolerant than the likes of Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and african islam.

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JohnTan said:

Let us know when you see more examples of muslims confronting their shit-stirring mullahs and clerics, instead of keeping quiet or acting as their apologists. Then I will believe your theory that islam can change for the better and that this is a temporary down cycle for them. Otherwise, it just a way-way road to the cesspit for them and maybe for us, when their shit hits the fan.

So far, the intolerant islam seems to be winning, and the "moderates" seem happy about it, as they may see themselves as primary beneficiaries if an islamist system or pro-islamist system gets set up.

The islam that gives me a good impression is one that is distorted to present a tolerant and peaceful message when the ummah is a small speck. When left to its natural form, especially in all islamic majority societies, the majority ummah shows its true intolerant nature. We can already see it happening in malaysia and indonesia, and these societies are way more tolerant than the likes of Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and african islam.

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Don't forget the seven Christian Crusades that started in 1095 and ran for about 200+ years. They had similar parallels - intolerance, violence, etc and are similar to what is happening in some segments of today's Muslim world.

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PTADER said:

Don't forget the seven Christian Crusades that started in 1095 and ran for about 200+ years. They had similar parallels - intolerance, violence, etc and are similar to what is happening in some segments of today's Muslim world.

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The Crusades were a long delayed response to repeated Islamic-inspired military invasions into Europe for centuries, starting from the 7th century. Just prior to the first crusades, muslim mauraders had even conquered many parts of southern italy, burned parts of Rome. The First Crusade only started after the Muslims were decisively pushed out of Italy.

Starting from 705–706, the Saracens from North Africa (recently conquered by the Arab armies) harassed the population of the coastal cities. Details about the political situation of Sardinia in the following centuries are scarce. Due to Saracen attacks, in the 9th century Tharros was abandoned in favor of Oristano, after more than 1,800 years of occupation; Caralis, Porto Torres and numerous other coastal centres suffered the same fate. In 805, the imperial patrician of Sicily Constantine signed a ten-year truce with Ibrahim ibn al-Aghlab, emir of Ifriqiya, but this was not an impediment to the pirates from Africa and Muslim Spain to attack repeatedly Sardinia between 806 and 821.[43]

In 1015 and again in 1016 the Emir Mujahid al-'Āmirī of Denya (Latinized as Museto) from the taifa of Denia, in the east of Muslim Spain (al-Andalus), attacked Sardinia and attempted to establish control over it. The twelfth-century Pisan Liber maiolichinus, a history of the 1113–1115 Balearic Islands expedition, records that Mujāhid controlled all of the Sardinian coastal plain.[44] The local Sardinian ruler, Salusio, the judge of Cagliari, was killed in the fighting and the organised resistance broke down.[45] In both these years joint expeditions from the maritime republics of Pisa and Genoa repulsed the invaders and preserved Sardinia as a part of Christendom. These Pisan–Genoese expeditions to Sardinia were approved and supported by the Papacy, making them precursors of the Crusades, which began eighty years later.[46] In 1022 new attempts were made by other Saracens, until in 1052 the people of Pisa, after long and bloody fighting in alliance with Genoa and Sardinian Giudicati, were able to drive them from the island.[/I


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Islam_in_southern_Italy

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Sure, the crusaders went wild along the way and sacked even Constantinople, but that doesn't change the historical fact that the crusades were a response to islamic armies invading christian territories for centuries.