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Thinking Aloud

Mixed marriages should debunk idea of 'pure' race

Zakir Hussain
Political Editor
PUBLISHEDJUL 30, 2017, 5:00 AM SGT
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Statistics show 1 in 3 Muslim marriages here inter-ethnic
The past two weeks have seen some debate online over just "how Malay" the aspirants for the upcoming presidential election are.

One common question that has been raised is why there are no "pure Malay" hopefuls stepping up, now that the law has been changed to reserve a presidential election for a race if it has not been represented in the post in the past five terms.

Tied to such thinking is the view that people can be neatly divided into pure Chinese, Malays or Indians, and that only such individuals should be deemed members of their community.


Such a view is misguided, although it is understandable that it continues to be held by a sizeable number of people.

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All along, and long before independence, Singaporeans have bridged racial lines in school, at work, and in marriage.

But in the authorities trying to ensure that all races are represented in schools, HDB estates and Parliament, people may have inadvertently been viewed more in terms of their race than by their individual merits.


Perhaps a more optimistic indicator of how Singaporeans view race is the latest statistics on marriages and divorces, released two weeks ago, that show inter-ethnic marriages making up over one in five of last year's 27,971 marriages. According to the data , 21.5 per cent of total marriages last year were between members of two different races, up from 15.4 per cent in 2006.



33.9%
Percentage of marriages in 2016 in the Muslim community - where they are governed under the Administration of Muslim Law Act - that were inter-ethnic.

18.2%
Percentage of civil marriages in 2016 that were inter-ethnic.

Such inter-ethnic marriages were more prevalent among the Muslim community. These marriages made up one in three - or 33.9 per cent - of Muslim marriages, compared with 18.2 per cent of civil marriages.

Given this high proportion of mixed marriages, many of which involve one Malay partner, perhaps it is little wonder that many Malays are less seized by trying to find, let alone pin down, a "pure Malay".

By comparison, when Singapore became independent in 1965, 508 marriages - one in 20, or 5 per cent of all marriages that year - were between people of different races.

The growing trend of inter-ethnic marriages led demographer Saw Swee Hock to note in his book, The Population Of Singapore, 10 years ago: "It would appear that the past stabilised state of relations among the different races is now giving way to a very gradual advance in the level of assimilation.

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"But this is still way behind the creation of a melting pot situation of mixed races," he added.

Sociologists attribute the rising number of inter-ethnic marriages to various factors, including the greater use of English as a common language and a large permanent resident and non-resident population.

There have also been more spaces for people from different races to mingle and get to know one another better - from schools to neighbourhoods and workplaces.

National University of Singapore sociologist Tan Ern Ser says these opportunities for people of different ethnicities to meet have also made them more cosmopolitan, open-minded and adaptable to cultural differences.

There is a growing number of Singaporeans with parents from two or more of the main ethnic groups, and this pool is set to grow with the rise in inter-ethnic unions.

Some see themselves as members of one group. Others see themselves as members of both their parents' communities. Yet others may feel more comfortable just identifying themselves as Singaporean. All are equally valid - and legitimate - responses.

On the one hand, some have cited the trend of growing inter-marriages and greater integration among the different racial groups in their call to do away with the long-established CMIO - or Chinese, Malay, Indian and Others - model of classification when it comes to housing quotas, or recording race on identity cards, or even the group representation constituencies.

On the other hand, racial classifications have governed how many Singaporeans see themselves, and continue to affect how our neighbours see us.

They also offer a way of seeing whether racism and discrimination are things of the past or if they are still very much with us today, and enable the authorities to track indicators such as the educational performance and well-being of minorities, including in areas such as health and housing type.

But policies are not set in stone, and changing demographics have seen adjustments being made.

For instance, in recognition of the rising number of children born to parents of more than one race, citizens of mixed parentage were allowed to reflect two races on their identity cards from 2011, if they so wished.

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So someone whose mother is Malay, and whose father is Chinese, can change his race on his IC to Malay-Chinese or Chinese-Malay.

Or he can still choose to remain registered as Chinese or Malay. And mixed-race couples have the same options for their children.

However, as anecdotal accounts of couples in inter-racial marriages suggest, the fact that there are more inter-ethnic unions does not automatically suggest that racism or discrimination is decreasing.

Incidents of discrimination and casual racism continue to make the headlines from time to time, and are not easily quantifiable. But every incident is one too many.

It is why schools have, for the past 20 years, made an effort to celebrate Racial Harmony Day and remind students about such values as respect for and acceptance of differences.

It is also why I believe it is a good thing for Singaporeans to see and know that their presidents must come from all the main communities here, even as they represent all Singaporeans, regardless of race.

Some will, no doubt, continue to quibble over how "pure" these candidates might be.

They might want to ponder what Nominated MP Thomas Chua, now immediate past president of the Singapore Chinese Chamber of Commerce and Industry, said when he spoke during the debate on amendments to the Presidential Elections Act earlier this year. "Singapore is a multiracial society; interracial marriages and new immigrants will create the interchanging and integration of ethnicity, which is a positive development," he said.

"If there is an outstanding individual with superlative abilities who is willing to serve society, and whose parents belong to different ethnic groups, both ethnic groups would be proud of him or her."

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A version of this article appeared in the print edition of The Sunday Times on July 30, 2017, with the headline 'Mixed marriages should debunk idea of 'pure' race'. Print Edition | Subscribe
 

Pek Kim Lui

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Dare the SPH-paid minion express the obvious opinion that Malays do not need such friggin excuse after so many years of affirmative actions. Look at the cars along the roads during Friday mosque sessions & cf with 20 yrs ago. How many non malay dun even own a car nowadays. Yes our abang n aDminah hv come a long way and yet they still need clutches to chope a ePrez? Dun hv or cannot find, any shitskin or lowlife will do? The is chope for minority NOT for islam! Else it follows that we must also chope for burmese, bangla, peenoy achinese etc ePrez as they are also minorities dwelling in our HDB pigeonholes.

The PRIDE of our BUMIPUTRA has been exploited by AssLoong.......... brutally sacrificed to ensure his devious agenda is followed!

Mati lah Singapura!
 
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2nd attempt by the whore from the press brothel. The issue is not the people but the community and the government. Look at the argument here - since when people claimed that mixed marriages resulting in pure race. Why not then get rid of the "Malay" category altogether and classify it as others like the Eurasians.

When people who are supposed to be representing the community can even put together a coherent argument one worries.

His article speaks more to not even having a EP based on race. Note the comment about school celebrating racial harmony day.


And he is the political editor of ST. He must realise that with this kind of standard, they must be rotating the post by race rather than merit.

Thinking Aloud

Mixed marriages should debunk idea of 'pure' race

Zakir Hussain
Political Editor
PUBLISHEDJUL 30, 2017, 5:00 AM SGT
FACEBOOKTWITTEREMAIL
Statistics show 1 in 3 Muslim marriages here inter-ethnic
The past two weeks have seen some debate online over just "how Malay" the aspirants for the upcoming presidential election are.

One common question that has been raised is why there are no "pure Malay" hopefuls stepping up, now that the law has been changed to reserve a presidential election for a race if it has not been represented in the post in the past five terms.

Tied to such thinking is the view that people can be neatly divided into pure Chinese, Malays or Indians, and that only such individuals should be deemed members of their community.


Such a view is misguided, although it is understandable that it continues to be held by a sizeable number of people.
 

fupikee

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2nd attempt by the whore from the press brothel. The issue is not the people but the community and the government. Look at the argument here - since when people claimed that mixed marriages resulting in pure race. Why not then get rid of the "Malay" category altogether and classify it as others like the Eurasians.

When people who are supposed to be representing the community can even put together a coherent argument one worries.

His article speaks more to not even having a EP based on race. Note the comment about school celebrating racial harmony day.


And he is the political editor of ST. He must realise that with this kind of standard, they must be rotating the post by race rather than merit.

This is the prelude to the pappy slant that "even if Indian (paki, Persian, pinoy or what have they) father, but Malay moose lem mother, so long as the 'community accepts the person as malay, then he or she can take part in the coming pe" . And how the community recognises whether the person is malay or not is dependent on some por lumpars coming out in support or opposition to the candidacy of the declared candidate.

Very simple slant, neh, which will sweep away all arguments of whether the particular candidate is 'malay' or not.

The pappies are just too stupid and incompetent to handle this simple political manipulation well...they just don't have it man.....the st is just the first dizzy step, followed by the 'committee' clarification, etc, etc.

If 70% do not seem to care, the pappies will still use their usual bulldozer way out of any embarrassments, mistakes or disaster....what a disaster for Singapore and its future!!!!:(
 

scroobal

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Yes, to your point attempting to "sweep" away all arguments on whether the candidate is Malay or not.

This is the prelude to the pappy slant that "even if Indian (paki, Persian, pinoy or what have they) father, but Malay moose lem mother, so long as the 'community accepts the person as malay, then he or she can take part in the coming pe" . And how the community recognises whether the person is malay or not is dependent on some por lumpars coming out in support or opposition to the candidacy of the declared candidate.

Very simple slant, neh, which will sweep away all arguments of whether the particular candidate is 'malay' or not(
 

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Let me teach pappies la.
They should spin it such that next time if got mixed parentage then the parents or kid can choose the race to follow Father or Mother race. Like citizenship.
Like this more convincing la
 

frenchbriefs

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All these new age interracial marriages is creating a new generation of freaks.society needs to come up with new names to identify these freaks correctly that do not belong in traditional categories,like mulatto,m&d bloods and jamban Jah's
 

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The problem is that malay can refer to an ethnic group and an umbrella term including almost all austronesian ppl but of course shit skins and pakis don't fall under that cetegory. The issue is since malay can also be used as an umbrella term it's pretty easy to assimilate in the sense that you just need to be muslim speak malay and practice malay culture and lo and behold you're malay! :rolleyes:

Anyway govt bodies, agencies misuse the malay terminology. For example in mendaki's context malay = any native from the archipelago limited only to western malaysia and indonesia meaning javanese, bugis, boyanese etc i doubt ppl from sarawak or pinoy can apply. In this context shit skins, arabs who are mudslimes and assimilated into malay culture cannot apply but i read the accounts of some of them that mendaki will invite them for a meeting if they do well to leech off their glory i suppose.
 

Pek Kim Lui

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besides fake news, we hv in sg, fake Malays........... when the tudung cb or Paki becum kelong prez, sg shall be know as The Islamic Republic of Singapore!! Matilah SingaPOOra
 

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This is a contradiction. If it is no longer easy or acceptable to sort people into narrow racial categories, then why is there a need to reserve the election for a specific race?

It should be open to all SGreans who meet a set of criteria that is easily measurable, e.g. born in SG, lived in SG continuously for past 20 years, at least 45 years old, etc.

Not doing so will only open a Pandora's box.
 

The_Hypocrite

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One point about this reserved EP point is the 3 candidates are not Malays and are not accepted as Mendaki for m&d benefits. But now they are accepted as part of the m&d community for the purpose of the reserved EP. That itself is a big contradiction and it brings in Religion as a criteria. Malay is defined as a race,,but for the m&ds in mudland,,,malay also means muslim. That means now the pappies have lump in malay and islam as one and has brought in religion as a criteria. True that malays are muslims, the gahmen should be doing it what is can to prevent religion as a criteria. And they are worried about muslim extremism? and now they are using islam as a criteria? If being part of the malay community is a criteria, than what about those with malay blood but are not muslims? like the pernarakan etc? they got malay blood but not part of the malay community so they cannot be malay?
 

JHolmesJr

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pay any spineless reporter he will write anything you want.,,,, he will even ship his mother to India to be gangbanged and murdered! Datz is the sad truth abt our so called jounalists

you sound like cottonmouth that useless chink cunt whose mama recently took a whole bus full of banglas up her black mumbai.
 

Pek Kim Lui

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One point about this reserved EP point is the 3 candidates are not Malays and are not accepted as Mendaki for m&d benefits. But now they are accepted as part of the m&d community for the purpose of the reserved EP. That itself is a big contradiction and it brings in Religion as a criteria. Malay is defined as a race,,but for the m&ds in mudland,,,malay also means muslim. That means now the pappies have lump in malay and islam as one and has brought in religion as a criteria. True that malays are muslims, the gahmen should be doing it what is can to prevent religion as a criteria. And they are worried about muslim extremism? and now they are using islam as a criteria? If being part of the malay community is a criteria, than what about those with malay blood but are not muslims? like the pernarakan etc? they got malay blood but not part of the malay community so they cannot be malay?

why must this erection be reserved for mooselim??
 
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