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Serious ROM becomes laughing stock of the world, invent new laws to annul same sex marriages

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Singapore officials void same-sex couple’s legal marriage

The decision to annul a legal marriage between a transgender woman and her wife almost two years after they exchanged vows as a straight couple has left advocates questioning the precedent under Singapore’s already strict marriage laws “The Registry (of Marriage) had no precedent for voiding marriages,” said Jean Chong, the Singapore-based program field coordinator for OutRight Action International. “We’ve not seen them do this before.”
Known as FK and BS to protect their identities, the couple married in 2015 while FK was still designated as male under law. They had consulted with a lawyer and were assured they were within their rights to legally marry.

“We have a law that says that marriage is between a man and woman, but the problem is that the registry went more than that,” said Chong. “They said can get married only if they want to remain a man and woman, but that is not in the law.”

The couple’s troubles started when the couple applied to receive state-subsidized housing.
Under Singapore law, married couples are eligible for certain housing benefits through the Housing and Development Board.
The law defines marriage between a man and a woman under an act known as the Women’s Charter, which provides explicitly heterosexual guidelines for issues surrounding marriage and family.
“What Singapore has is a lot of social engineering,” said Chong. “There’s all kinds of discrimination if you don’t fit into the cookie cutter mold of what they want Singapore to be.”
The Women’s Charter goes so far as to state “a marriage solemnized in Singapore or elsewhere between persons who, at the date of the marriage, are not respectively male and female shall be void.”

By the time the couple started their housing search, FK had undergone sex-reassignment surgery and updated the identity marker on her documents to female. Their gender was legally recognized as that of a same-sex couple, despite what the papers reflected at the time of their marriage.
The Housing and Development Board questioned the couple’s legal married status, and put their application on hold in order to allow the Registry of Marriages to investigate.
The couple was given the runaround for months before being told by the Registry of Marriage their marriage was no longer valid since they were not living as a man and a woman, making their housing search no longer approved.
The Registry of Marriages however was aware of FK’s transition even before their marriage, according to Quartz magazine in Singapore.
While her gender marker was still listed as male at the time of their marriage, FK had legally changed her name.
FK has stated the Registry of Marriage asked her to sign a document declaring she would not undergo any sex-reassignment surgeries before the date of their wedding and that she would wear masculine clothing to the ceremony.
“They clearly thought it through when they decided to make me sign the declaration form stating I wouldn’t go for surgery before the marriage,” said FK in an interview with Quartz magazine. “And I interpreted that as a sort of, ‘OK, whatever happens after the marriage is none of our business.’ Otherwise, why would they make me sign [the declaration]?”
Singapore, which does not currently recognize same-sex marriage, does in fact recognize trans people under law — but only the marriages of those couples that identify as heterosexual.
“This when our laws fail because nothing in our laws talks about other kinds of families,” said Chong. “We have rules around how heterosexual families are rewarded. They get better tax breaks. Anyone that falls out of that spectrum — single people, unmarried mothers, or in this case, a same-sex couple — they are just not in this framework.”
“This is blatant discrimination by two government departments that are undermining the rights to family and housing eligible to heterosexual married couples,” said Grace Poore, regional program coordinator for Asia and the Pacific Islands at OutRight Action International in a press release.
“Singapore’s insistence that transgender people must remain in heterosexual relationships denies transgender people the right to be gay or lesbian,” added Poore.
 

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Re: ROM becomes laughing stock of the world, invent new laws to annul same sex marria

Actually, I though Glen Goei and Ivan Heng are legally married in Singapore? See them together all the time. Did they get married in the UK? Next ROM will be forcing same sex couples married outside singapore but residing now in singapore to annul their marriages too. There are for sure same sex sinkie couples who are married and living in singapore.
 

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Actually, I though Glen Goei and Ivan Heng are legally married in Singapore? See them together all the time. Did they get married in the UK? Next ROM will be forcing same sex couples married outside singapore but residing now in singapore to annul their marriages too. There are for sure same sex sinkie couples who are married and living in singapore.

No, Ivan Heng married a Brit, Tony Trickett, in London. Glen Goei is attached but not married.

http://www.straitstimes.com/lifesty...-of-18-years-on-a-perfect-british-summers-day

The ROM is making a mockery of our law. Only a court can annul marriages.

One of the saddest victims of state discrimination is single mums with kids. I know a low-income woman who's supporting her daughter by holding down 2 jobs. Application to buy an HDB flat rejected. Application to rent an HDB flat rejected. Reason: a single unmarried mum with a biological daughter is not considered a 'family unit'. (But a divorcee with an adopted kid is!) They're now bunking in with her cousin.

Fuck the bastards.
 

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Excellent decision by ROM. I hope the rest of the sane world follow ROM's example. Otherwise, all these faggots will abuse this as a loophole and backdoor entry to getting "married".

These male and female faggots should be thankful that Singapore society quietly accepts their sick fetish to fuck each other in shit-filled arseholes; or to use strap-ons, blissfully oblivious to their stupid and contradictory assertions that female faggots hate cocks, but yet enjoy using fake ones like dildos and strap-ons to carry out their version of "fucking".

These faggots are sick in the head. They need to be treated in mental hospitals to cure their sexual disorders and sick fetishes.
 

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Re: ROM becomes laughing stock of the world, invent new laws to annul same sex marria

Actually, I though Glen Goei and Ivan Heng are legally married in Singapore? See them together all the time. Did they get married in the UK? Next ROM will be forcing same sex couples married outside singapore but residing now in singapore to annul their marriages too. There are for sure same sex sinkie couples who are married and living in singapore.

Ivan Heng is the female partner of a gay marriage. But he is not married to Glen
 

scroobal

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I too was puzzled by this. Did some digging and found that cases such as this was allowed by HDB in the past. Apparently this case was considered as fake marriage and both of them are not living together. One of them was already in the process of sex change prior to marriage. The marriage was in 2015. Not sure why they were not charged in court.
 

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Funny they blabber on about discrimination for queers.
Ordinary sinkies already kena discrimination day in day out by pap
 

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F those cheebyes la. Marry as man and wife and suddenly change sex.
 

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Re: ROM becomes laughing stock of the world, invent new laws to annul same sex marria

No, Ivan Heng married a Brit, Tony Trickett, in London. Glen Goei is attached but not married.

http://www.straitstimes.com/lifesty...-of-18-years-on-a-perfect-british-summers-day

The ROM is making a mockery of our law. Only a court can annul marriages.

Not true. This can be rightfully seen as a "marriage of convenience", i.e. to get subsidised housing, under Section 11A (b) of the Women's Charter (that governs non-Muslim marriages).

Hence, it is in ROM's right to void the marriage. It's really no different from other type of scam marriages that take place such as for the purpose of obtaining the right to residence in Singapore.

The usual liberals' and faggots' cries of "DISCRIMINATION!" when they don't get their way are irrelevant to the issue.
 

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Re: ROM becomes laughing stock of the world, invent new laws to annul same sex marria

One of the saddest victims of state discrimination is single mums with kids. I know a low-income woman who's supporting her daughter by holding down 2 jobs. Application to buy an HDB flat rejected. Application to rent an HDB flat rejected. Reason: a single unmarried mum with a biological daughter is not considered a 'family unit'. (But a divorcee with an adopted kid is!) They're now bunking in with her cousin.

Fuck the bastards.

If a single woman wants to live a lifestyle that includes opening up her legs for a one-night stand, or to a fuck buddy, or to whoever she sexually desires, and in the process, gets pregnant, she should not expect taxpayers to fund her lifestyle.

Otherwise, you will face an explosion of irresponsible men sowing their seeds without having to bear the financial consequences of doing so when their sown seeds results in kids; or single women breeding kids and then expecting society to pick up the cost of their wild and wanton fucking.

Learning to close her legs or using a cheap condom if she is unable to close them, could have solved that woman's problem.
 

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If a single woman wants to live a lifestyle that includes opening up her legs for a one-night stand, or to a fuck buddy, or to whoever she sexually desires, and in the process, gets pregnant, she should not expect taxpayers to fund her lifestyle.

Otherwise, you will face an explosion of irresponsible men sowing their seeds without having to bear the financial consequences of doing so when their sown seeds results in kids; or single women breeding kids and then expecting society to pick up the cost of their wild and wanton fucking.

Learning to close her legs or using a cheap condom if she is unable to close them, could have solved that woman's problem.

if the father of the child is still alive he can be sued for child support.unless he is a absolute deadbeat who can't even support himself.in which case the women should practise better mating selection.
 

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Funny they blabber on about discrimination for queers.
Ordinary sinkies already kena discrimination day in day out by pap

I will fully support these sick faggots with their sick and twisted sexual fetishes if they campaign for an end to all sorts of discrimination listed in the discriminatory First Schedule of the Woman's Charter. It unfairly disallows various "consenting adults" from exercising their "right to love" by marrying who they want to.

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FIRST SCHEDULE
Kindred and affinity
prohibited degrees of relationship

Mother.Father.
Daughter.Son.
Father’s mother.Father’s father.
Mother’s mother.Mother’s father.
Son’s daughter.Son’s son.
Daughter’s daughter.Daughter’s son.
Sister.Brother.
Wife’s mother.Husband’s father.
Wife’s daughter.Husband’s son.
Father’s wife.Mother’s husband.
Son’s wife.Daughter’s husband.
Father’s father’s wife.Father’s mother’s husband.
Mother’s father’s wife.Mother’s mother’s husband.
Wife’s father’s mother.Husband’s father’s father.
Wife’s mother’s mother.Husband’s mother’s father.
Wife’s son’s daughter.Husband’s son’s son.
Wife’s daughter’s daughter.Husband’s daughter’s son.
Son’s son’s wife.Son’s daughter’s husband.
Daughter’s son’s wife.Daughter’s daughter’s husband.
Father’s sister.Father’s brother.
Mother’s sister.Mother’s brother.
Brother’s daughter.Brother’s son.
Sister’s daughter.Sister’s son.
 

yellowarse

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Re: ROM becomes laughing stock of the world, invent new laws to annul same sex marria

If a single woman wants to live a lifestyle that includes opening up her legs for a one-night stand, or to a fuck buddy, or to whoever she sexually desires, and in the process, gets pregnant, she should not expect taxpayers to fund her lifestyle.

Otherwise, you will face an explosion of irresponsible men sowing their seeds without having to bear the financial consequences of doing so when their sown seeds results in kids; or single women breeding kids and then expecting society to pick up the cost of their wild and wanton fucking.

Learning to close her legs or using a cheap condom if she is unable to close them, could have solved that woman's problem.

The kid did not ask to be born. She still needs a roof over her head, food on the table, schooling. Why is she suffering for her parents' misdeeds?

Going by your argument, a divorcee with kids (biological or otherwise) should also not be considered a family unit for purposes of HDB flat application. Irresponsible parents marry and divorce, leaving their kids in the lurch. Why should taxpayers fund such a irresponsible lifestyle?

There should be some consistency at least even if you want to discriminate.

By the way, the said woman was engaged to be married. She got pregnant, fiance got cold feet and dumped her.
 
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Excellent decision by ROM. I hope the rest of the sane world follow ROM's example. Otherwise, all these faggots will abuse this as a loophole and backdoor entry to getting "married".

These male and female faggots should be thankful that Singapore society quietly accepts their sick fetish to fuck each other in shit-filled arseholes; or to use strap-ons, blissfully oblivious to their stupid and contradictory assertions that female faggots hate cocks, but yet enjoy using fake ones like dildos and strap-ons to carry out their version of "fucking".

These faggots are sick in the head. They need to be treated in mental hospitals to cure their sexual disorders and sick fetishes.

U are just a bias bigot. How do I know this? 2 men fucking each other is disgusting, but 2 women fucking each other is hot, right?
 

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Re: ROM becomes laughing stock of the world, invent new laws to annul same sex marria

The kid did not asked to be born. She still needs a roof over her head, food on the table, schooling. Why is she suffering for her parents' misdeeds?

Going by your argument, a divorcee with kids (biological or otherwise) should also not be considered a family unit for purposes of HDB flat application. Irresponsible parents marry and divorce, leaving their kids in the lurch. Why should taxpayers fund such a irresponsible lifestyle?

There should be some consistency at least even if you want to discriminate.

By the way, the said woman was engaged to be married. She got pregnant, fiance got cold feet and dumped her.

No point in arguing with a homophobic bigot. He was probably raped by an adult male when he was young.
 

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Re: ROM becomes laughing stock of the world, invent new laws to annul same sex marria

Marriage is between a man and a women. Any other combination is a sin and the sinners should be tarred and feathered and driven out of town.
 

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if the father of the child is still alive he can be sued for child support.unless he is a absolute deadbeat who can't even support himself.in which case the women should practise better mating selection.

No one can predict how the choice of mates turns out. Many women marry men who were nice to them, and then later on they became womanizers and losers. If there is a surefire formula to select future mates, kindly share it with us.
 

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Not true. This can be rightfully seen as a "marriage of convenience", i.e. to get subsidised housing, under Section 11A (b) of the Women's Charter (that governs non-Muslim marriages).

Hence, it is in ROM's right to void the marriage. It's really no different from other type of scam marriages that take place such as for the purpose of obtaining the right to residence in Singapore.

Wrong. Scam marriages are one reason to annul a marriage, among a host of others like non-consummation, incest marriage, STD, pregnancy by another party, etc. These are all grounds for a voidable marriage, clearly laid out in Section 106 of the Women's Charter.

But annulment of a marriage a marriage can only be granted by a court after a writ is filed laying out the grounds for a voidable marriage. It is never the function of ROM.

4. Annulment Procedures

You will need to file a writ of nullity in court along with a statement of particulars setting out the grounds of annulment (s. 104 of the Women’s Charter). From then, the individual who files the writ will become the Plaintiff and the spouse becomes the Defendant.

If you are unclear with which ground is most suitable for your situation, you may consider engaging a specialist divorce lawyer to advise you and assist you with preparing and filing the necessary documents.

After all the necessary documents are presented in court, the court will consider your case. If they are satisfied that the grounds of annulment have been fulfilled and there are no grounds to refuse the annulment, the court will grant a judgment of nullity.

Uncontested annulments require a mere 4 or 5 months to be processed. From then, the marriage will then be considered officially annulled.
 

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Re: ROM becomes laughing stock of the world, invent new laws to annul same sex marria

Not true. This can be rightfully seen as a "marriage of convenience", i.e. to get subsidised housing, under Section 11A (b) of the Women's Charter (that governs non-Muslim marriages).

Hence, it is in ROM's right to void the marriage. It's really no different from other type of scam marriages that take place such as for the purpose of obtaining the right to residence in Singapore.

The usual liberals' and faggots' cries of "DISCRIMINATION!" when they don't get their way are irrelevant to the issue.

A marriage annulment can only happen in a court of law. Stop inventing new rules like ROM. In order to get a marriage annuled, the the court has to issue a judgement of annulity. In this case, ROM should file in court to annul the marriage between these 2. The court has to look at all the evidence and make the decision.

In addition, if you read the article, the whole problem started when they applied to HDB for a flat as a "family unit". If HDB feels that it has been cheated by these 2 because they do not form an authentic family unit and got a flat under this false pretense, then again, its up to HDB to bring them to court. Its not ROM's business to be so kaypoh and fuck around the way they have. They have way overstepped their boundaries.
 

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Wrong. Scam marriages are one reason to annul a marriage, among a host of others like non-consummation, incest marriage, STD, pregnancy by another party, etc. These are all grounds for a voidable marriage, clearly laid out in Section 106 of the Women's Charter.

But annulment of a marriage a marriage can only be granted by a court after a writ is filed laying out the grounds for a voidable marriage. It is never the function of ROM.
4. Annulment Procedures

You will need to file a writ of nullity in court along with a statement of particulars setting out the grounds of annulment (s. 104 of the Women’s Charter). From then, the individual who files the writ will become the Plaintiff and the spouse becomes the Defendant.

If you are unclear with which ground is most suitable for your situation, you may consider engaging a specialist divorce lawyer to advise you and assist you with preparing and filing the necessary documents.

After all the necessary documents are presented in court, the court will consider your case. If they are satisfied that the grounds of annulment have been fulfilled and there are no grounds to refuse the annulment, the court will grant a judgment of nullity.

Uncontested annulments require a mere 4 or 5 months to be processed. From then, the marriage will then be considered officially annulled.


U are 100% right. I hope these 2 bring ROM to court and sue them. I know for sure there are many PAP elites and MIWs that are Gays or have gay sons and daughters. I am surprised no one has stepped in to have a quiet talk with ROM to cease and desist. Probably some high flyer at ROM trying to score brownie points.
 
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