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Serious PLA & Russian Warships in Russian war game in European waters, stiring NATO

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https://www.rt.com/op-edge/397206-nato-russia-china-drills/


Russia-China exercises a 'natural response' to US-NATO military advances

Published time: 22 Jul, 2017 16:30
Edited time: 22 Jul, 2017 17:06
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Russia-China exercises a 'natural response' to US-NATO military advances
FILE PHOTO: China-Russia naval joint drill © Global Look Press
The West should recognize that if NATO is going to expand to the border of Smolensk, that is going to worry the Russians; Also the Russian-Chinese alliance has got the potential to offset America in the terms of military, says political analyst Chris Bambery.

The first ever joint Russia-China drills in European waters started in the Baltic Sea. The military exercise between the two countries will last for a week.

Meanwhile, the US and allied countries have just finished their own massive exercise in the region. Saber Guardian took place in Eastern Europe, on the territory of three countries, aimed at deterring so-called 'Russian aggression'.

Some 25,000 personnel from more than 20 states participated in the biggest drills of their kind in five years.

Despite that, NATO allies are worried by the upcoming Russian war games in Belarus this September. The US Army's top general in Europe even suggested that Moscow might carry out a so-called "Trojan horse" maneuver there.

“People are worried, this is a Trojan horse. They say, ‘We’re just doing an exercise,’ and then all of a sudden they’ve moved all these people and capabilities somewhere,” Lieutenant-General Ben Hodges, commander of US Army forces in Europe, told Reuters on Thursday.

Political analyst Chris Bambery says NATO and America only have themselves to blame for the uptick in tensions.
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FILE PHOTO: Participants of the West 2013 Russian-Belorussian military exercise. © Alexei Druzhinin ‘Trojan horse’: Top US commander in Europe says Russia might use Belarus drills to move weapons

RT: The US Army's top general in Europe even suggested that Moscow might carry out a so-called "Trojan horse" maneuver. What do you think about that?

Chris Bambery: I think what NATO and the Americans should be saying is that they themselves are building up their military presence in the region firstly through NATO expansion, something that was specifically promised to Mikhail Gorbachev back when the Soviet Union was collapsing would not happen. That was one of the deals that was done at the time of the fall of the Berlin Wall. It was a promise to Russia that NATO will not expand into the former satellite states of former USSR territory. And secondly we’ve seen not just those countries joining NATO, but NATO sending troops into the Baltic States and elsewhere, putting the missile shields into Poland and the Czech Republic and carrying out exercises in Hungary, Bulgaria, but also in the north in Poland, Sweden and the Baltic States. And this build-up has destabilized the region. We have a potential Cold War in that region, largely stemming from the NATO expansion into it.

But I think also it is something else. The Chinese have got their own ax to grind given what is happening in the South China Sea, where there is a standoff between them and the Americans, the Taiwanese and the Japanese allies over these islands there. So it is not surprising to anyone that China and Russia are allies. Is this news to anyone? Is it news to this General [Ben Hodges] because they have not been following the news, if that is the case. And it is also the case that clearly if NATO and Americans carry out military exercises in this region, that there is going to be a response. I think what sent the West into a tizzy is the fact that Chinese warships have entered the Baltic, which is unprecedented. And it is a demonstration that, while China is not yet able to match America in terms of its military capacity, that that is something which is going to develop over the years. And the Russian-Chinese alliance has got the potential to offset America in the terms of military might in the world. This has revived fears of what China is going to become in the years to come.
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FILE PHOTO: Chinese frigate ''Huangshan'' and Russian Navy's Antisubmarine Ship ''Admiral Tributs'' during a China-Russia naval joint drill at sea off south China's Guangdong Province. © Zha Chunming / Global Look Press Chinese military vessels enter Russia’s Baltic for 1st time as joint drills kick off

RT: Why's there so much fuss about Russia given that NATO recently carried out huge drills too?

CB: We’ve had this strange attempt to portray Russia as being an enemy of everyone. Blame for everything, including attacks on House of Commons emails here in London. And it is still regarded, despite everything that has happened, as being a problem for the West as it was after WWII, as Britain regarded it in the 19th century. There is unresolved business here.

It is the expansion of NATO, despite a promise made at the time of the USSR to Gorbachev, it is that expansion which has destabilized relationships in Eastern Europe. And clearly, if NATO is going to expand to the border of Smolensk, that is going to worry the Russians. And rather than this stuff coming from the American general, perhaps the West should turn around and recognize that what it is doing is causing concern in Russia because of unrelenting NATO expansion.

The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.
 

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PRC went shopping for Russian Mi-17 Copters @ MAKS-2017 Trade Show

But I think this purchase is for Civilian / NON-PLA Purposes

Chinese actually made their own military copters and new advanced models are to be released soon, however the new developments are owned by PLA and will not be for the Chinese civilians government / Private use


https://www.rt.com/business/397103-russia-china-helicopters-supply/

Russia to supply transport helicopters to China in 2018
Published time: 21 Jul, 2017 14:37
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A Mi-171E (Mi-8 AMT) helicopter © Mikhail Voskresenskiy / Sputnik
Russia’s state arms seller Rosoboronexport has inked a deal with China to deliver four Mi-171E transport helicopters. The agreement was concluded at the MAKS-2017 international air show.
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"We have signed a contract for the delivery of an additional batch of Mi-171E transport helicopters and relevant accessories to China. Our partners will get four helicopters. The contract will be implemented in 2018," Rosoboronexport CEO Alexander Mikheyev said in a statement.

The deal includes the sale of four VK-2500 helicopter engines for Mi-17 helicopters.

"We will deliver the engines in 2018," said Mikheyev.

READ MORE: China buys Russian military helicopters for $1.3bln

In 2014 China bought 140 AL-31 engines for the SU 27/30 fighter jets, and for its domestically designed fighter planes, worth $700 million. In 2012 it purchased Mi-171E helicopters and other Russian military equipment worth $1.3 billion.

According to Rosoboronexport, demand for Mi-171E helicopters is growing, and they are operational in Southeast Asia, including China.

Over the past 30 years, more than 4,000 versions of the Mi-17 helicopter have been exported to more than 100 countries.

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Re: PRC went shopping for Russian Mi-17 Copters @ MAKS-2017 Trade Show

Altogether now!!! Hoot ah!!
 

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Re: PRC went shopping for Russian Mi-17 Copters @ MAKS-2017 Trade Show

Small boys can be seen, but shouldn't be heard and most importantly small boys shouldn't waste time with Great America.




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Yesterday President Donald Trump commissioned the USD15b nuclear powered 100,000 tons USS Gerald Ford aircraft carrier which is the largest and most advanced in the world.

From concept to completion, the USS Gerald Ford is planned and built in the USA by Americans and the aircraft carrier will be manned by patriots of America.

Enemies of US of A are trembling and shitting in their pants.
 

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The ship will b tow back for fitting out the engine, tske another 10 years, usa pok Kai no money to pay sailors
 

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Yesterday President Donald Trump commissioned the USD15b nuclear powered 100,000 tons USS Gerald Ford aircraft carrier which is the largest and most advanced in the world.

From concept to completion, the USS Gerald Ford is planned and built in the USA by Americans and the aircraft carrier will be manned by patriots of America.

Enemies of US of A are trembling and shitting in their pants.

Gerald Ford is junk.

http://www.oldsaltblog.com/2017/05/problems-uss-gerald-r-ford-hint-not-catapults/


The Problems with the USS Gerald R. Ford (Hint — It’s Not the Catapults)
Posted on May 13, 2017 by Rick Spilman
In an interview with Time, the notional Commander in Chief again showed his willful ignorance by calling for steam catapults rather than “digital catapults” on the new Gerald R. Ford class of aircraft carriers. Aside from the limitations inherent in using the decades old steam technology, the new Electro-Magnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) catapult on the carrier USS Ford are not “digital.” It is not clear what a digital catapult might be. What is clear is that the president has absolutely no idea what he is talking about, yet again.

The Electro-Magnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) is computer controlled, as is just about everything these days, but is hardly “digital.” EMALS use a series of electric motors instead of a conventional steam piston drive. The system allows more controlled acceleration which puts less stress on the planes and can be tailored to plane size, from drones to the heaviest carrier-based fighter bombers. The system is lighter and also should be far less costly to maintain. It also allows for more planes to be launched faster than the old steam catapults. The system had initial bugs but is now said to be ready for sea trials.

Right now the EMALS seems to be one of the least problematic systems on the $13 billion supercarrier USS Gerald R. Ford. The largest problem seems to be with its turbine generator sets which have failed to produce enough power. The Navy has said that they have come up with a series of fixes. There are also reported problems with the ship’s plane arresting gear.

Many say that the problems are more administrative than technical. Senator John McCain argues that the cost overruns, delays and technical failures of the Ford-class carrier program are evidence of the overall flawed defense acquisition system.

Likewise, Ex-Navy Secretary Ray Mabus told reporters, “The Ford is a textbook example of how not to build a ship,” “(We were) building it while it’s still being designed” — which results in costly do-overs of already-finished components — “(and) trying to force too much new and unproven technology on it.”

Perhaps what we really need is better Navy contracting, not steam catapults or an ignorant Commander in Chief.

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Is the chink navy going to blast their way into some good white harbour like what the Brits did to Canton and Tianjin long ago?
 

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Is the chink navy going to blast their way into some good white harbour like what the Brits did to Canton and Tianjin long ago?

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The simple version is a single round of nuke around any naval base or coastal city. Minimum 3 nukes on the ocean near surface. Scope the sea water into a huge Tsunami towards the base or city.

Actually there can be more than 3 nukes at different depths and timing to design the optimized Giant Tsunami. 18 ~ 20 nukes can be used.

To do this, there are many many ways to deliver nukes, or in combinations, ICBM, IRBM, bomb dropped from bombers, cruise missiles, torpedoes, secret mine laying boats or submarines, and time programed or remote controlled detonation.

If you used submarine to lay the nukes just days ahead of schedule and then flee, there is nearly no way to detect nor prevent.

After the initial 1st round of Tsunami, there will be WASH BACK & RECIPROCATION usually, just like the normal ripples in water after you throw a rock into. Ripple patterns will bounce from shore and back & forth few times. Washing up and down. Warships & sea sand and rocks will go on shore, and then buildings go down with withdrawing water into ocean. Just like in this:

 
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