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Serious Nice War News 5 more dead Ah Nehs, 10km length PLA convoy + trains into Tibet

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Both sides of Pakistan & India have new military ghosts. Xijinping via road and rail moved millions of tons of war machines and supplies and troops into Tibet today. Photo videos were released.



http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...adly-cross-border-attack-170716172103140.html

Pakistan accuses India of deadly cross-border attack
India says it is not aware of the incident which reportedly killed four Pakistani soldiers in disputed Kashmir.

Asad Hashim
Kashmir has been divided between India and Pakistan since 1947 [Reuters]

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Indian military shelling in the disputed territory of Kashmir has killed at least four Pakistani soldiers, Pakistan’s military says, prompting fresh exchanges of fire between the South Asian neighbours.

"Indian troops targeted an army vehicle moving along the [Line of Control] along Neelum River at Athmaqam," said a Pakistani military statement on Sunday, confirming that Pakistani troops had responded to the firing.

The vehicle plunged into the river, drowning the four soldiers, the statement said.

Pakistan's Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif condemned the incident and "praised the prompt response by Pakistan army in thwarting the attack", a statement by his office said.

Lieutenant Colonel Rajesh Kalia, a spokesman for India's defence ministry, said he had no knowledge of the incident, Reuters news agency reported.

READ MORE: India rejects China's mediation offer on Kashmir

India and Pakistan both claim Kashmir in full but administer separate parts of it, divided by the Line of Control (LoC), which serves as a defacto border. Skirmishes across the LoC have become increasingly common in the last year, despite a 2003 ceasefire agreement.

Tensions between the nuclear-armed neighbours have been high in recent months, particularly in the Kashmir region. Last July, Indian security forces killed a young Kashmiri fighter, prompting months of street protests and an ensuing security crackdown in Indian-administered Kashmir that has killed at least 100 people.

The crackdown also prompted several attacks on Indian military bases in the area, which the Indian government blamed on Pakistan-based groups. Pakistan denies providing sanctuary to such groups.

Tensions ratcheted up even higher after India’s military claimed to have carried out “surgical strikes” on the Pakistani side of the LoC in September, targeting bases operated by armed groups fighting for Kashmiri independence from India.

Pakistan denies the strikes ever took place.

Since September, Pakistan’s military says Indian shelling across the LoC has intensified, with more than 900 incidents recorded, mainly resulting in civilian casualties, according to a statement released earlier on Sunday.

Indian denies initiating hostilities, and alleges that the skirmishes have been started by Pakistani forces shelling Indian positions and civilians. Pakistan denies the charge. Al Jazeera is unable to independently verify the allegations as access to the area is severely restricted by the militaries on both sides.

Dozens of civilians have been killed in the months of violence on both sides of the LoC, according to local media reports.

Asad Hashim is Al Jazeera’s Web Correspondent in Pakistan. He tweets @AsadHashim.




http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/world/2017-07-20/doc-ifyihrmf2821708.shtml


巴方称印军对其无故开火 巴军回击打死5名印度士兵

2017年07月20日 07:11 新华网
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  原标题:巴基斯坦军方说巴印在克什米尔地区再次发生交火

  新华社伊斯兰堡7月19日电(记者季伟)巴基斯坦军方19日说,印度军队当天再次在克什米尔地区对巴方“无故”开火,巴军方对印军的袭击进行了回击。

  巴三军新闻局当晚发表声明说,印军当天在克什米尔地区巴印实际控制线附近对巴方一侧的军事据点和平民进行炮击,造成1名巴士兵死亡、2名士兵受伤,平民中有2人死亡、5人受伤。

  声明说,巴军方对印军的袭击进行回击,摧毁了朝巴方开火的印军据点,打死至少5名印度士兵,打伤多人。声明表示,印度任何无端违反停火协议的行为都将遭到巴军方强有力的回击。

  当天早些时候,巴基斯坦外交部召见印度驻巴副高级专员辛格,对印方18日在克什米尔地区违反停火协议并造成巴方人员伤亡表示抗议,要求印方遵守双方2003年达成的停火协议。

  巴外交部声明说,印度军队18日在克什米尔实际控制线附近向巴方一侧开火,造成2名巴平民死亡,另有6人受伤。巴方对印方违反停火协议并向平民开火的行为予以谴责。

  巴三军新闻局局长阿西夫·加富尔16日在一个新闻发布会上说,今年以来,印度在克什米尔地区巴印实际控制线附近违反停火协议已达580次,为历年之最。

  1947年巴印分治后,巴基斯坦和印度曾为争夺克什米尔地区爆发两次战争。2003年,双方在克什米尔巴印实际控制线一带达成停火协议。近年来,克什米尔地区形势总体缓和,但是双方冲突时有发生。本月以来,双方在实际控制线附近交火频繁,导致多人死伤。双方均指责对方违反停火协议。(完)
 

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PLA massively moving into Tibet and not for summer holiday not war game. Report says this convoy expected arrival in 7 hours.



http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2017-07-20/doc-ifyihrit0881710.shtml


我军数百辆军车载上万吨物资赴西藏 车队绵延10公里

2017年07月20日 09:32 环球时报
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  无论是古代,还是近代,现代,军事行动最重要的就是比拼后勤能力。在后勤所产生的问题得到解决之前,战争演变到了这样一种地步:补给品,甚至部队,有时不得不在一地停留很长时间,甚至是1个月。

  在1916年仅仅为了英军在索姆河上发起进攻,炮弹就有150万发,被送到前方,屯积在铁路终点站,以后就再也不能向前后或左右运输。战略在更大的程度上成了后勤的附庸。

  在历史上,我们可以看到,绝大部分战役的失败,其实都和后勤是分不开关系的。后勤不仅仅是运输,也同时是对交通基础设施,野战防空,制空权和电子干扰等等力量的考验。

  十九世纪的军事理论家约米尼称后勤为“军队运动的实际艺术”,近日,我军展开了一次跨区联合保障机动演习。从四川向高原地区快速进行后勤补给,参加的有从医院和各种仓库,一直到运输部队和警卫防空力量。

  整个演习背景包括,对方卫星进行侦察如何隐蔽,道路遭到破坏,工兵快速抢修。还有遭到小规模袭击等等。整个车队包括数百辆各种载重车辆,包括防弹方舱车,医疗车,油料运输车等等,装载着上万吨物资。

  在演习当中,还在山区危险路段进行了躲避空袭演练,加油车在野外设立加油站演练,组成多个梯队多路隐蔽前进等等。

  新闻延伸:继西藏军区某旅进行高原实弹演练之后,西部战区所属西宁联勤保障中心前不久进行的跨地域机动演练引发境外媒体关注。

  香港媒体认为这次练兵不仅是后勤领域的一次演习,更是向印度展示肌肉。还有一些分析认为,这是“兵马未动,粮草先行”。印度媒体则强调,尽管大规模军事部署没有发生在中印边境锡金段附近,而是在西藏北部。然而,“北京可以通过西藏庞大的公路和铁路网络快速把后勤物资部署到边境。”

  香港东网18日报道称,中印两军在边境对峙紧张的局势久未平息,解放军持续加强备战,继早前在青藏高原进行山地进攻演练及轻型战区坦克测试后,中国军媒再披露,解放军西部战区西宁联勤保障中心所属后勤部队,上月下旬进行了一场横跨中国西部的大规模军队后勤保障演练,将上万吨后勤补给物资,从四川、青藏高原地区运向昆仑山。

  在演习中上万吨后勤补给物资迅速完成装载,千人百车分成多个梯队,通过铁路、公路同时开进,车队绵延10多公里。演练中更模拟后勤部队遭到“敌袭”。遭遇“空袭”的部队紧急疏散,救援人员紧急处理伤者。为加大演练难度,演练还模拟道路损毁、卫星监视等情况,考验部队的应急处置能力。


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http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2017-07-20/doc-ifyihrit0884366.shtml


印度忧虑解放军万吨物资进西藏 7小时内就可抵达

2017年07月20日 09:37 环球网
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  《今日印度》 网站 19 日题为“现在中国向西藏运送军事装备,印度会害怕吗?”的报道援引了 《南华早报》 的文章。该报道称,日前中国向西藏运送了“成千上万吨”的军用车辆和设备,也许是针对洞朗对峙进行的力量展示。报道强调,后勤大量补给并未发生在中印边境锡金段附近,而是在西藏北部,靠近新疆。然而,北京可以通过西藏庞大的公路和铁路网络快速把后勤物资部署到边境,高速公路现已从拉萨一直延伸到锡金。“700公里的距离可以在六七个小时内抵达。”

  环环(ID:huanqiu-com)发现,该文源于《解放军报》17日二版一篇题为“联合保障,千人百车战昆仑——西宁联勤保障中心紧贴实战开展跨地域机动演练见闻”的报道。原文与《南华早报》的报道有些出入。报道称,演练时间为“近日”,规模为“千人百车”,运送的并非装备而是“上万吨后勤给养物资”。

  一名匿名中国军事专家对环环(ID:huanqiu-com)表示,上月16日开始的中印洞朗对峙已超过一个月,中国必须做好各种准备。“战争的胜负在第一枪打响之前是由军需官决定的”,而高原作战的成败在很大程度上取决于后勤保障是否有力。中国在相关地区必须做好充分准备,即便这次演练与中印对峙有关,也是再正常不过的事情了。
 
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