Serious THAAD proven useless again by Kim Jong Nuke ICBM

USA is dead meat against Kim Jong Nuke's advances. THAAD can not stop ANY of Kim Jong Nuke's Missiles.

If he made up his mind to give a go with Gong Xi Fa Cai Ang Pao BIG BIG, it's a sure Bang Bang no surprises.

THAAD or Patriot or any crap helpless.

When Kim Jong Nuke missiles can defeat US defense Putin & Xijinping are 100X more confidence to penetrate US defense.




http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/3/north-korea-missiles-can-defeat-us-defense-systems/

North Korea tests missiles designed to defeat U.S. THAAD defense system



The North Korean regime launched test missiles last year in flights precisely designed to avoid interception by rocketing them into much higher altitudes, the Congressional Research Service reported. (Associated Press/File)
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By Rowan Scarborough - The Washington Times - Wednesday, May 3, 2017

North Korea has tailored its spate of ballistic missile tests to defeat the U.S.-stationed defense systems ready to protect the South and Japan from descending warheads, a report to Congress says.

The bellicose North regularly flight-tests a panoply of ballistic missiles that could, in war, be capped with miniaturized nuclear warheads and strike its two democratic neighbors and U.S. allies.

The U.S. military has matched this threat by first stationing Patriot anti-missile batteries and then announcing that the wider-range, mobile THAAD system is now in place to shoot down incoming warheads.

Pyongyang, the North’s capital, has been watching.

The Congressional Research Service reported that the regime launched test missiles last year in flights precisely designed to avoid interception by rocketing them into much higher altitudes. The result: The re-entry warhead will descend at a steeper angle and faster speed, “making it potentially more difficult to intercept with a missile defense system,” the CRS said.

In another maneuver, the CRS said, “North Korea has also demonstrated an ability to launch a salvo attack with more than one missile launched in relatively short order.”

“This is consistent with a possible goal of being able to conduct large ballistic missile attacks with large raid sizes, a capability that could make it more challenging for a missile defense system to destroy each incoming warhead,” the report said.

In a third tactic, North Korea has tested submarine-launched ballistic missiles — the first in 2015 — that could be targeted at South Korea from outside THAAD’s radar field.

Lockheed Martin, the maker of THAAD (Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense), says its system is “designed to counter mass raids” by launching up to 72 interceptors from one battery against short- and medium-range ballistic missiles to protect troops as well as cities. The U.S. military positioned the battery and radars 135 miles south of the capital of Seoul on an abandoned golf course.

The CRS says the North’s periodic test launches are not just for show. They “may be intended to increase the reliability, effectiveness and survivability of their ballistic missile force,” said analysts Steven A. Hildreth and Mary Beth D. Nikitin.

The country’s last two missile tests, including one on Saturday, failed. That prompted speculation that a Pentagon cyberwar on North Korea quickly disrupted the flight.

North Korea has made significant advances in producing fissile material — weapons-grade plutonium and enriched uranium. It has conducted underground explosive tests to refine warhead designs and yields, and is building families of reliable ballistic missiles.

The Institute for Science and International Security, led by nuclear physicist David Albright, estimates that the North may own 30 nuclear weapons today and will have 60 by 2020. The Defense Intelligence Agency said North Korea owned just one or two such weapons in 1999.

In other words, North Korea, with erratic leader Kim Jong-un, is becoming a nuclear power.

“The last several years have witnessed a dramatic and overt buildup in North Korean’s nuclear capabilities,” Mr. Albright said in a briefing.

The Trump administration has been sending a combination of signals to Mr. Kim — an iron fist in the buildup of naval forces and an olive branch in President Trump’s remark that he would be honored to meet the Stalinist-type leader if conditions are met.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer said the North must commit to dismantling its nuclear arsenal. It made such a commitment to freeze its weapons research under the Agreed Framework with the Clinton administration.

During six-party negotiations, the George W. Bush administration found the regime to be cheating. All international inspections stopped in 2009.

Mr. Albright told The Washington Times that the North accelerated its nuclear weapons development at the end of each agreement, especially since 2009.

The North also has made threats about testing a long-range ballistic missile capable of hitting the continental United States. Such a provocation could prompt Mr. Trump’s national security team of former and current generals to recommend a pre-emptive airstrike to destroy Mr. Kim’s nuclear arsenal.

The CRS report said: “The intelligence community believes that North Korea has an ICBM capability, but that it has not been tested and that neither North Korea nor the United States knows whether that capability will work.”

The problem air war planners would face is that North Korea is suspected of operating secret, underground sites where fissile material is stored and where warheads are researched, developed and assembled, nuclear analysts say.

“North Korea’s numbers of weapons, based on fissile material estimates, are relatively large and growing,” Mr. Albright said.

The International Atomic Energy Agency, the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog, filed its latest report on North Korea in August. It noted that the North’s test of a nuclear device the previous January was a “flagrant disregard” of U.N. resolutions. The report said the IAEA’s knowledge is waning as the Kim regime keeps its experts outside the country.

The CRS report sums up the North’s fast progress: “Taken together, North Korea’s progress in nuclear testing, its declared standardization of warhead designs and potential to put those warheads on medium-range missiles, increased confidence in the reliability of its short-range missile forces, and efforts seemingly designed to degrade regional ballistic missile defense systems suggest that North Korea may be building a credible regional nuclear warfighting capability. Such an approach would reinforce their deterrent strategy by lending more credibility to its growing capabilities.”

When Ang Moh Trump failed even to get Kim Chi to pay for THAAD, it is just a useless thing, failed even to con Kim Chi, which only purpose is to give Xijinping & Putin reasons to attack. It surely did not con Kim Jong Nuke!





http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/thaad-wont-save-asia-or-america-north-korea-20665


THAAD Won't Save Asia (or America) from North Korea
Eric Gomez

May 15, 2017
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Last week U.S. officials confirmed that the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) missile defense battery deployed on a South Korean golf course reached initial operating capability. As tensions grow on the Korean peninsula, THAAD’s deployment is supposed to improve deterrence by bolstering the ability of the United States and South Korea to defend against North Korean ballistic missiles.

While THAAD does reduce the chances of a successful North Korean missile attack against important U.S. military bases and some South Korean cities, it probably won’t do much to cool down the situation on the peninsula. In fact, THAAD could contribute to instability and increase the likelihood of a crisis.

Why is that? First, it is important to understand what the THAAD system is and isn’t capable of doing.

THAAD is not able to defend Seoul from North Korean missiles because most of the capital city is just outside the 200 km range of THAAD’s interceptors. While not in a position to defend Seoul, THAAD could protect several locations that are essential for conducting sustained combat operations against North Korea, such as the port of Busan and Kunsan air base. Moreover, even if THAAD were deployed closer to Seoul, it would not be able to defend against the conventional artillery threat to the city.

Critically, THAAD would not be able to shoot down a North Korean missile test or an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) heading for the U.S. homeland. THAAD can only engage missiles as they fall back down to earth. If a missile is falling within the engagement range of THAAD’s interceptors, then North Korea is not testing a missile, it is attacking South Korea.

It will not work for U.S. homeland defense, either. The only thing capable of defending the continental U.S. from ICBMs is the Ground-Based Midcourse Defense (GMD) system, which has a spotty testing record. While THAAD could not shoot down an ICBM, its radar could provide targeting data to the GMD to improve the chance of a successful intercept, but that is hardly a guarantee of success.

With these technical limitations in mind, THAAD’s main purpose is to provide a protective umbrella for U.S. air force bases in South Korea, and the port of Busan, the primary port of entry for follow-on U.S. ground forces in the event of a long-term fight with North Korea.

But although missile defense systems are usually viewed as solely defensive, the protection they provide also creates a perverse incentive for U.S. military planners to use force offensively. If U.S. planners believe essential military facilities are relatively safe from missile attack, they could be emboldened to launch first strikes against North Korea’s nuclear forces.

Currently, the United States, South Korea, and North Korea all face strong incentives to go first in a conflict. The best way for the United States and South Korea to limit the damage of a North Korean attack is to destroy the North’s nuclear weapons on the ground or kill Kim Jong Un before he can give the order. Unfortunately, this also places Kim Jong Un in a “use it or lose it” position to attack first with his nuclear weapons in the hope of short-circuiting a disarming attack.

Before THAAD, a disarming blow was incredibly risky because of the damage that just a few surviving nuclear-armed missiles could do to U.S. forces in South Korea. The risk and danger of a disarming strike are both still high, but THAAD does reduce them by providing a better shield against any weapons that may survive the first strike.

Ultimately, THAAD will do little to defuse the current tensions on the Korean peninsula. The greater protection it provides to U.S. troops could make U.S. escalation less costly and therefore more attractive. The Trump administration will have to find another way out of this crisis.

Eric Gomez is a policy analyst for defense and foreign policy studies at the Cato Institute.

This first appeared in RealClearDefense here.

Ang Moh felt the chill down their spins when THAAD can do nothing about Kim Jong Nuke missiles!




http://www.news.com.au/technology/i...d/news-story/fc35f24ecda160c465a60014393b1436



North Korea nuclear weapons: Is THAAD enough to protect the world?

AMERICA’S missile system is designed to protect the world from North Korea. But will it be enough to stop all that firepower?
Debra Killalea@DebKillalea
news.com.au
April 28, 20175:53am

IT’S the controversial missile defence system designed to help South Korea and US military forces stationed on the Korean peninsula.

But while the Terminal High-Altitude Area Defence system (THAAD) can potentially shoot down a North Korean ballistic missile, it may not be enough protection against the military might North Korea showed off this week.

According to Brendan Thomas-Noone, a research fellow at the United States Studies Centre at the University of Sydney, the THAAD is unlikely to defend Seoul against dozens of missiles fired from the sea which Pyongyang has been working on.

Mr Noone, an expert in nuclear deterrence in the Indo-Pacific, told news.com.au the THAAD adds a level of uncertainty for the North Korean regime.

It also deters North Korea from firing one or two missiles from a certain direction towards South Korea.
This image shows what was said to be a Combined Fire Demonstration held to celebrate the 85th anniversary of the North Korean army, in Wonsan. Picture: KRT/AP

This image shows what was said to be a Combined Fire Demonstration held to celebrate the 85th anniversary of the North Korean army, in Wonsan. Picture: KRT/APSource:AP

“North Korea will see its deployment as troubling for its missile program — that’s why it has taken the time and resources to invest in sea-launched missiles that can get around THAAD,” he said.

“But it’s unlikely to change much of the equation for them.”

His comments come after North Korea released alarming photos revealing its firepower in its “largest ever” military demonstration near the eastern coastal town of Wonsan.

The drill conducted earlier this week was intended to mark the 85th anniversary of the founding of the Korean People’s Army.

The display, supervised by leader Kim Jong-un, included 300 “large-calibre” self-propelled guns lining up along a beach firing all at once. It also involved submarines firing torpedoes and low-flying jets dropping bombs.
Independent journalists were not given access to cover the event depicted in the demonstration held to celebrate the 85th anniversary of the North Korean army, in Wonsan. Picture: KRT/AP

Independent journalists were not given access to cover the event depicted in the demonstration held to celebrate the 85th anniversary of the North Korean army, in Wonsan. Picture: KRT/APSource:AP

The display was designed to simulate an attack on enemy warships and resulted in a defiant South Korea announcing that key parts of a US missile defence system have been installed to defend itself from any further provocation.

This included two or three launchers, interceptor missiles and an X-band radar.

WHAT IS THAAD?

The system, which has been set up with assistance from the US, is expected to be tested for the first time next month with expectations it will be fully operational by the end of the year.

The full THAAD includes three to six truck-mounted launchers which can carry about 50 interceptor missiles. This is backed up by a long-range radar, hailed as the world’s most advanced mobile radar.

But Mr Noone said it was more than that.

He said THAAD is designed to intercept a missile in its ‘terminal’ phase or the final stage as a missile is coming down to hit its target.
Kim Jong-un pictured at combined fire demonstration of the services of the Korean People’s Army. Picture: AFP

Kim Jong-un pictured at combined fire demonstration of the services of the Korean People’s Army. Picture: AFPSource:AFP

It’s also a huge deterrent and largely seen as an asset by nervous South Koreans.

“The THAAD being placed in South Korea will help protect military installations and population centres from medium and short-range ballistic missiles that are fired directly towards South Korea,” he said.

“But there are tactics that North Korea can use that will help circumvent the protection that THAAD will provide.”

NOT HAPPY CHINA

But not every nation is thrilled at having the system around and not all South Koreans are enthused about it either.

China has made it clear it’s far from happy at having the “weapon” so close to its borders.

Beijing’s foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang threatened to retaliate if the US does not remove it. He accused South Korean and US governments of inflaming regional tensions.
A man holds a candle shaped banner during a rally to oppose a plan to deploy an advanced US missile defence system THAAD in South Korea. Picture Lee Jin-man/AP

A man holds a candle shaped banner during a rally to oppose a plan to deploy an advanced US missile defence system THAAD in South Korea. Picture Lee Jin-man/APSource:AP

Mr Noone said the radar on THAAD is very powerful and has the range to be able to see deep into Chinese territory.

“The United States and its partners already have similar radars in Japan and Taiwan,” he said.

“When the information from these radars are combined together, they will likely provide intelligence on Chinese missiles. This makes Beijing uneasy in terms of its own nuclear posture with the United States.”
This US Department of Defense handout photo shows US Forces continue progress in fulfilling the South Korea-US alliance decision to install a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, or THAAD, on the Korean Peninsula Picture: DOD/AFP

This US Department of Defense handout photo shows US Forces continue progress in fulfilling the South Korea-US alliance decision to install a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, or THAAD, on the Korean Peninsula Picture: DOD/AFPSource:AFP

CAN IT STOP KIM?

Mr Noone stressed the THAAD wouldn’t be enough to stop the displays and posturing coming out of North Korea and warned we would see more of this until North Korea was willing to come to the negotiating table.

He said North Korea is a fairly militarised society and the regime sustains itself through displays like this week’s, which show it’s able to defend itself against the West.
A Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) launcher is installed at a golf course in Seongju, about 300 kilometres southeast of Seoul. Picture: AAP/Yonhap News Agency

A Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) launcher is installed at a golf course in Seongju, about 300 kilometres southeast of Seoul. Picture: AAP/Yonhap News AgencySource:AAP

“We’ve known about their long-range artillery capabilities for a long time, and before their nuclear and missile program these artillery pieces were one of the main reasons why the West has not been able to contemplate a military attack on North Korea,” he said.

“South Korea’s capital, Seoul, is within range of North Korea’s artillery, but the display didn’t show anything new.”

REAL OR FAKE?

While a military expert today said that some of North Korea’s military weapons it put on show two weeks ago are fake, Mr Noone said the most recent display didn’t fit that description.

Michael Pregent, a former US Army Intelligence Officer, told Fox News that some of the weapons held by soldiers during Pyongyang’s April 15 military parade are not real, including certain artillery.
This 2015 photo shows a terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) interceptor being launched from a THAAD battery located on Wake Island in the Pacific Ocean. Picture: AFP/DOD

This 2015 photo shows a terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) interceptor being launched from a THAAD battery located on Wake Island in the Pacific Ocean. Picture: AFP/DODSource:AFP

“Some of the (Intercontinental ballistic missiles) on display may well be fake,” Mr Noone said.

“But that doesn’t mean North Korea hasn’t or won’t build them.

“We already know some of the missiles that were on display are real because they’ve been used and tested.

“The display we saw this week was very real.”

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North Korea's Missile Advancements

US commanders are fully aware that thousands of DF-15 & DF-16 can wipe them out in anywhere close to China, Japan Korea Taiwan India Vietnam Burma. Further there are bigger and more expensive DF models.





























http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2017-07-05/doc-ifyhrxsk1800480.shtml


美称中国1200枚导弹将抹平驻日美基地 萨德无力阻挡
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　　美军报告：东风将洗平驻日美军基地，神盾萨德无力阻挡

　　近日，一份CNAS报告《首轮打击：东风导弹对美军亚洲基地的威胁》指出：未来的东风火箭军的首轮突然打击，将足以消灭美军在日本的军队和基地。但如果部署更多的导弹防御系统，将可以保护冲绳北部的大部分目标，并且有可能反过来会削弱北京在未来的冲突中首轮用东风洗地的欲望。

　　但这种情况是不可信的。因为从1949年以来解放军的历史和政策表明，发动突然打击的信心是难以被吓退的。如1950年对韩国，1962年对印度，1974年和78年对越南。北京通常会将突然袭击作为侵犯其主权和利益的防御性反应——所谓被迫自卫还击。而这种主权和利益的范围相当广泛，如对南海的主权主张，甚至纯粹的政治论战或非暴力挑衅，都会以军事行动作为合法回应。

　　如果有公平交战的事先警告和征兆，美军可以有充裕的时间让飞机起飞、战舰出港、启动防御系统来减少损失。但如果是弹道导弹的突然袭击，然后是巡航导弹的补枪，然后是空袭，则机场的飞机和港口的军舰将来不及反应而遭殃。而这样的突然袭击一直是解放军火箭部队的首要目标，商业卫星照片显示，他们已经在戈壁沙漠腹地的导弹靶场模拟了多次对机场和大型船舶的打击。

　　这份CNAS报告的两名作者来自海军，但没有完全站在海军的视角，也没有用秘密的军方数据，而是采用开源情报和计算机模拟。（一个是CNAS的海军研究员，一个是霍普金斯大学的应用物理实验室），但信息量也很大。

　　他们首先确定了最符合北京首轮打击胃口的驻日美军500个目标，主要是机场、港口、指挥所、通讯中心、燃料弹药舱库和其他军事行动所需的基础设施。

　　火箭军有足够的弹药对付它们。估计有1200枚短程弹道导弹可以覆盖冲绳，这也是最接近大陆的美军力量。而200-300枚中程弹道导弹可以覆盖日本全境。这些导弹发射后15分钟内就会击中目标。然后是速度稍慢的巡航导弹和轰炸机作为第二波补枪。特殊的穿透性弹头可以摧毁加固地堡和工事，而子母弹药可以大面积破坏机场跑道和暴露的飞机。

　　日本目前有一些爱国者导弹阵地和神盾舰，但主要针对北朝鲜的威胁，面对东风导弹之海，它们将在第一时间被吞没。即使他们能够成功拦截部分，最终也将用尽有限的拦截弹。未来必须依靠于激光武器、电磁轨道炮或者其他具有跟多拦截次数的武器，但短时间内还得不到，只能基于美军现有的导弹防御系统动脑筋。

　　通过计算，要阻止如此规模的东风导弹首轮突袭需要什么？另外两个爱国者导弹连，另外2艘宙斯盾战舰，和最关键的——5个THAAD导弹连。标准导弹、THAAD拦截弹和爱国者配合，形成足够容量的三层拦截网，才有可能。

　　但即使美军部署了这些额外的拦截力量，冲绳依然陷入困境。它距离大陆太近，面临的导弹太多。作者认为“冲绳的防御工作将不堪重负，但至少损害减轻了”，另一方面“飞往日本本土的导弹大部分将被拦截”。

　　而这个报告的核心问题是需要5个新的THAAD导弹连，问题是美国陆军在全球总共只有6个，其中一个已经用在了韩国。根据目前的合同，还有1个在生产中。除非美国愿意剥夺世界其他地方的弹道导弹防御能力来保护日本，而俄罗斯和伊朗在弹道导弹方面也在研发——结果就是在全球范围内需要更多的THAAD系统。

　　这是一个有价值的投资，诚然美军用了更加昂贵的拦截弹去拦截对方相对便宜的弹道导弹，比如爱国者300万美元一发，去拦截100万美元的飞毛腿。但你必须跟他们所保护的目标的价值去比较，因为消耗的几十亿美元的导弹防御系统，被保护的战舰、飞机、军事设施和人命往往是价值百亿千亿的。

　　我想说：想多要预算买THAAD就明说嘛。好长一篇要钱软文。（作者署名：默虹美海军学习小站）

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