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Serious Stupid Ang Moh dream to survive by fleeing from Planet Earth. Ang Moh must die!

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https://www.space.com/2554-flee-planet-geometry-earth-wrong.html


Why We Must Flee the Planet: The Geometry of Earth is All Wrong

By Seth Shostak, Senior Astronomer, SETI Institute | June 29, 2006 12:07am ET





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Stephen Hawking is best known for thinking about time, space, and those teratoid trash mashers known as black holes. But in a recent talk in Hong Kong, the famous physicist digressed from his usual subject matter to tell the audience that they'd better get off the island, and he didn't mean Kowloon. Instead, the Cambridge don was urging the crowd to get off the whole, gosh-darn planet. Hawking was hawking space colonization.

"Life on Earth is at the ever-increasing risk of being wiped out by a disaster, such as sudden global warming, nuclear war, a genetically engineered virus or other dangers," Hawking disclosed.

Well, if you're a space buff, your reaction to this pronouncement is probably half-closed eyelids and a big "duh." Moving out into the solar system to save our precious, hominid skins is hardly a new idea. What makes these statements print-worthy is that they come from a luminous source.

But news or not, Hawking's observation is correct, primarily and fundamentally because our planetary home is the wrong shape. A sphere has less surface area than any other form of the same volume. Less than a cube, an ellipsoid, or any polyhedron you can still recall from seventh grade geometry. What this means is that there's precious little surface acreage to live on, despite Earth's goodly heft.

Consider the Tonnage-to-Terran ratio, an index of how efficiently we use the planet: With the human population at six billion, the T-to-T ratio works out to about a trillion. In other words, for every lout strutting Earth's stage, there are about a trillion tons of Earth!

That's right: each of us is backed up by a trillion tons of natural infrastructure, a mostly useless collection of crushed iron core and creamy, hot magma, topped by a delicate continental crust. This, as you can easily surmise, is wasteful. It's possible to live the good life with 100 tons of housing (including some office space and a car or two), which is 10 billion times more efficient.

So while moving some of our descendants to Mars or the moons of Jupiter, as Hawking suggests, will help-it won't help much. The problem is that these worlds are also spheres. The amount of increased real estate they offer for human settlement is unimpressive.

For example, let's ignore for a moment the environmental problems, the nukes and the pandemics, and consider population growth alone. The current doubling time for the number of humanoids is 50 years (that's a growth rate of 1.4 percent per year). In other words, even if we began colonizing the Red Planet this week, we'd have it littered with critters by mid-century. This is only marginally helpful. Taking Malthus to the max, if we naively assume that the present doubling rate will continue well into the future, the mass of ever-reproducing humans will reach the moon in the year 4810 a.d. That's not individual astronauts-it's the expanding glob of protoplasm. (As a stupefying aside, this ball of beings would reach the nearest star, Alpha Centauri, relatively shortly thereafter: by 8825 a.d.)

Such fanciful extrapolations are unrealistic, but so is the opposite extreme: to assume that, after 300 thousand years of increase, the number of humans will stabilize and stagnate, not just for a while, but forever. More room is surely needed, unless you can picture our progeny endlessly stuck on a single planet, fighting for space and hustling for the dwindling natural resources. That scenario seems so fanciful, so airy-fairy, we have no choice but to heed the siren call of other solar system habitats. However, even the best of these (Mars) will be difficult to terraform, and offers only a short-term solution to a long-term problem.

Another well-known physicist, Freeman Dyson, weighed in on this issue years ago, and suggested that the small bodies of our solar system-asteroids and perhaps the diminutive worlds of the Kuiper Belt-could be choice future real estate. These objects, like the planets, are approximately round, but being small they enjoy a higher ratio of surface area to volume. All the asteroids together weigh only as much as Earth, but these hunky chunks of junk still sport ten thousand times as much square footage as our world. Dyson reckons that our descendants will migrate to where land is abundant.

There's merit in his suggestion, but once again this nearby acreage-like Mars-will require major improvement. An asteroid is not a cheap fixer-upper.

Fortunately, there's yet another approach for securing easy elbowroom: building artificial habitats in space. The idea of constructing mammoth, rotating aluminum cylinders in orbit (either around Earth, around the moon, or simply around the Sun) dates back to the 1970s, when Gerald O'Neill and Tom Heppenheimer wrote speculative books on how it might be done. It was their optimistic view that by the start of the 21st century, tens of millions of us would be spinning in space. That hasn't happened yet, but the concept still makes sense. O'Neill and Heppenheimer even worked out in some detail how the raw materials for construction could be catapulted off the moon and smelted and assembled in orbit.

You might think that living on Mars would beat living in a colossal can, but that's hardly obvious. As fabricated housing, a space colony can be easily tuned to our needs: Imagine a large environment boasting first-rate views, one-G's worth of gravity, a breathable atmosphere, salubrious temperature, and all your favorite plants and animals (i.e., no mosquitoes). In addition, you can build as many of these as you want. You won't run out of lebensraum in fifty years.

Indeed, that's the important bottom line. Artificial habitats can have a very low Tonnage-to-Terran ratio. Rather than crowding a few billion people onto the moon, for example, where residents will have to contend with such domestic inconveniences as no air, no water, and no going outside without #5,000,000 sun-block, we can take the moon apart and redevelop it as a dream suburbia. Call it simple geometry-because it is-but rebuilding the moon to construct flotillas of space habitats is possible because the latter aren't round balls of stuff. Doing so is imperative because, as Hawking says, our future depends on it. Self-destruction aside, we'll be like cats in a cage if we don't eventually spread out.
 

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Ang Moh idiots' idea fooled whole planet earth's civilization into a massive Total Extinction Suicide, but they won't admit their faults. They just created false hope and desperately cling on the very remote chance of Fleeing from the ruined and exhausting planet earth for survivor. These fucking bastards must be punished by hard brutal deaths!

Even if fleeing from planet earth was possible, their fucktard values and ideas only create a larger destruction and ruin in the originally good and healthy universe. Their fucktard Humanity idea is nothing but a PEST & Intoxication which ruined planet earth and attempting to ruin beyond this planet! Their craps are the ULTIMATE CRIME in hundreds of billions of year of natural history of the universe! Fucktard Ang Mohs must die!

Before their craps took place (which took place only about a century or 2 ago), man lived on this good healthy natural planet for more than a million years since Paleolithic Age (between 2.5 million till 10,000 years ago), through Genghis Khan, Silk Roads, Medieval, we did not face pollution nor climate change, nor extinction nor endangering of e.g. polar bears. Confucius generation did not leave a pile of waste nor pollution to Genghis Khan generation, but our Modern Civilization has so much waste left behind including nuclear wastes that will remain harmful for next 24000 years!

Stupid Western bastard refuse to admit their stupidities and faults. They are so stubborn that they want to push their mistakes and damages beyond the boundary of planet earth, to exploit and ruin planets far beyond solar system.

To show how STUPID this is, in the thousands of years of recorded history, we did not have these problems at all. Our ancestors did not have to try to flee planet earth for survival. The ancient ways are definitely much more CORRECT than the Present Ways, a tragic wrong turn had been taken somewhere, very obviously, and they are NOT Aware! They only know that we are doomed here, and will be extincted unless we can flee to somewhere other than planet earth!

They refuse to admit that the crisis is cause by none other than Humanity & Modern Civilization. The ruin is done by civilization squandering harmless resources and turned these resources into Harmful Wastes, that we are unable to handle and planet earth is also unable to handle.

There are now about 8 billions of OVER-POPULATION, how many can flee? How many can afford to flee? If there was really somewhere to flee to (assuming as nice as original planet earth)!

What will happen to those who can not flee?

The bastards will not tell you, but you are being ABANDONED to die tragically horrible deaths here!


There is no place like earth regardless how hard the morons try to seek.

They have until now not able to find any planet that has FOOD! Even water is so rare to find, and so desperate they try to prove that they can show some signs of water.

There is no oxygen to breath! If man could live outside earth, must be confined either to space suits, or very limited confinement encapsulated complex more restricted than PRISON COMPLEX. If punctured or leak or shattered by say asteroids, it is 1000X more fatal than the flight cabin de-pressurization.

Oxygen will be so precious and expensive that you have to PAY DEARLY for every breath you take. Food and drinks must be at least 1000X more expensive than on planet earth. House, clothes, every necessity, would be way way much higher cost than on earth, if even there is a possible chance to survive on another planet outside earth.

They still try to flatter themselves of their High Intelligence & Capability, without realizing a Tremendously Stupid Mistake and Tragic Total Extinction Suicide had been done by them! They don't want to turn back! They still want to proceed on to Total Extinction, and cling on the naive dream of surviving on some new dreamland colonies in space. How fucktard bastards & arrogant fools these Ang Moh?

 

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Read this to assess how remote is the chance of fleeing and migrating to a new livable planet!



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...nology-spacecraft_us_594c70cce4b0326c0a8d073f



Stephen Hawking Proposes Nanotechnology Spacecraft to Reach ‘Second Earth’ in 20 years
06/23/2017 12:37 am ET
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Renowned physicist Stephen Hawking is proposing a nanotechnology spacecraft that can travel at a fifth of the speed of light. At that speed, it could reach the nearest star in 20 years and send back images of a suspected “Second Earth” within 5 years. That means if we launched it today, we would have our first look at an Earth-like planet within 25 years.

Hawking proposed a nano-spacecraft, termed “Star Chip,” at the Starmus Festival IV: Life And The Universe, Trondheim, Norway, June 18 – 23, 2017. Hawking told attendees that every time intelligent life evolves it annihilates itself with “war, disease and weapons of mass destruction.” He asserted this as the primary reason why advanced civilizations from another part of the Universe are not contacting Earth and the primary reason we need to leave the Earth. His advocates we colonize a “Second Earth.”

Scientific evidence appears to support Hawking’s claim. The SETI Institute has been listening for evidence of extraterrestrial radio signals, a sign of advanced extraterrestrial life, since 1984. To date, their efforts have been futile. SETI claims, rightly, that the universe is vast, and they are listening to only small sectors, which is much like finding a needle in a haystack. Additional evidence that Hawking may be right about the destructive nature of intelligent life comes from experts surveyed at the 2008 Global Catastrophic Risk Conference at the University of Oxford, whose poll suggested a 19% chance of human extinction by the end of this century, citing the top four most probable causes:

1. Molecular nanotechnology weapons – 5% probability

2. Super-intelligent AI – 5% probability

3. Wars – 4% probability

4. Engineered pandemic – 2% probability

Hawking envisions the nano-spacecraft to be a tiny probe propelled on its journey by a laser beam from Earth, much the same way wind propels sailing vessels. Once it reaches its destination, Hawking asserts, “Once there, the nano craft could image any planets discovered in the system, test for magnetic fields and organic molecules, and send the data back to Earth in another laser beam.”

Would Hawking’s nano-spacecraft work? Based on the research I performed during my career and in preparation for writing my latest book, Nanoweapons: A Growing Threat to Humanity (Potomac Books, 2017), I judge his concept is feasible. However, it would require significant engineering, as well as funding, to move from Hawking’s concept to a working nano-spacecraft, likely billions of dollars and decades of work. However, in Nanoweapons, I described the latest development of bullets that contain nano-electronic guidance systems that allow the bullets to guide themselves, possibly to shoot an adversary hiding around a corner. Prototypes already exist.

Hawking’s concept is compelling. Propelling a larger conventional spacecraft using a laser would not attain the near light speed necessary to reach a distant planet. Propelling it with rockets would also fall short. According to Einstein’s theory of relativity, a large conventional spacecraft would require close to infinite energy to approach the speed of light. Almost certainly, Hawking proposed a nano-spacecraft for just that reason. Its mass would be small, perhaps measured in milligrams, similar to the weight of a typical household fly.

Hawking’s concept represents a unique application of nanotechnology that could give humanity its first up-close look at an inhabitable planet. What might we see? Perhaps it already harbors advanced intelligent life that chose not to contact Earth, given our hostile nature toward each other. Perhaps it harbors primitive life similar to the beginning of life on Earth. We have no way of knowing without contact.

You may choose to laugh at Hawking’s proposal. However, Hawking is one of the top scientists on Earth and well aware of advances in any branch of science he speaks about. I judge his concerns are well founded and his nano-spacecraft concept deserves serious consideration.
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without the AngMohs.................TS wouldn't even be here crying mom and dad.........there'll be no computers or internet.................DUMBFARK...........

TS must be a DUMBFARK PAP voter too......................
 

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without the AngMohs.................TS wouldn't even be here crying mom and dad.........there'll be no computers or internet.................DUMBFARK...........

TS must be a DUMBFARK PAP voter too......................



Frankly speaking I no longer have any faith in Civilized Politics, and I am not interested in anything other than Carnage and Wars, and I believe firmly that Elections Should NEVER be held. I will no longer be voting in any elections''


Frankly also, I discovered studied and explored for solutions using Internet also, and Ang Moh MUST DIE, Ah Nehs must die, many many must die, only a very tiny fraction of planet earth man have a tiny chance. Internet must also die. But mean while I will still use the Internet to hit Ang Mohs.
 
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