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Serious Lee Wei Ling & Lee Hsien Yang condemns Lee Hsien Loong

flatearther

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Excerpt of the Old Man's will that have been publicly disclosed according to his wishes.

“I further declare that it is my wish, and the wish of my late wife, KWA GEOK CHOO, that our house at 38 Oxley Road, Singapore 238629 (‘the House’) be demolished immediately after my death or, if my daughter, Wei Ling, would prefer to continue living in the original house, immediately after she moves out of the House. I would ask each of my children to ensure our wishes with respect to the demolition of the House be carried out. If our children are unable to demolish the House as a result of any changes in the law, rules or regulations binding them, it is my wish that the House never be opened to others except my children, their families and descendants. My view on this has been made public before and remains unchanged. My statement of wishes in this paragraph 7 may be publicly disclosed notwithstanding that the rest of my Will is private.”
Actually what's the big deal LWL and LHY? LKY (papa) already foresaw what will happen. So not demolishing "the House" is still in line with his will. Just that the only people who can go into the house are family and descendants.

So LHL is following his father's will also lah.
damn sneaky!!!why did LKY include that clause?it essentially makes the rest of will null and void.anyway dont open dont open lor,what does it matter?people can still worship it from outside no?
LKY by adding that clause open all the possibilities for LHL to manipulate the laws and rules to his favor.

Silly LKY!
Maybe that was LKY's ulterior intention all along, for the sake of LHL (simply because he is LKY's eldest son)? :wink:
And at the same time, LKY can also look "good" because he's "humble" enough to wish to demolish his own house, in order to show everyone that he's refraining from being vain. :wink:
 
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flatearther

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If Ling want, she just call PAPsmearer up. I will check out one Leo 2SG from 80 SAR, drive to Oxley, and whack 10 120mm HE rounds into that old house. Sure to demolish completely. If she wants, she can sit on my lap while I pull the trigger.
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Seee3

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Very tired and embarrassed to be Singaporean. Stupid squabble over a house. Is it really the house or is it just a front to air their dislike for each other?

Come on, all are no angel. How often they visited during his last days? Who agree to the intubation?

Only worthwhile lesson learnt:
1. Our children don't take on the character of both parents. They follow the one that is closer to them.
2. WoMAN are the most vicious creature in the world.
 

eatshitndie

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Very tired and embarrassed to be Singaporean. Stupid squabble over a house. Is it really the house or is it just a front to air their dislike for each other?

Come on, all are no angel. How often they visited during his last days? Who agree to the intubation?

Only worthwhile lesson learnt:
1. Our children don't take on the character of both parents. They follow the one that is closer to them.
2. WoMAN are the most vicious creature in the world.

correction.
2. woemen are the most vicious creatures in the universe, if left on the shelf for 69 years as unsextisfied virgins. convent girls can verify that about their teacher-nuns. :p
 

The_Hypocrite

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Maybe that was LKY's ulterior intention all along, for the sake of LHL (simply because he is LKY's eldest son)? :wink:
And at the same time, LKY can also look "good" because he's "humble" enough to wish to demolish his own house, in order to show everyone that he's refraining from being vain. :wink:

So the main culprit is old fart.
 

Satyr

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I wonder which part of this is not clear to Lee Hsien Loong and his Cabinet

Quite clear in fact. The house can be demolished, rebuilt, LHL , who is family , can live there. Theoretically open to all family members, they don't want to come , their " pasal ".


That would obey the letter of the Will. No way such an iconic place can be simply erased. Not by this cabinet. What will they do ? Build a condo there ?

I think they should simply move the entire building to a new location , turn it into a memorial, ask the PAP to buy the Oxley land , build a HQ there.
 

yinyang

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How fitting, this dig given what's unfolding

Lee Hsien Loong walks into DBS to cash a cheque.

Surrounded by a large entourage of bodyguards, he approaches the cashier. “Good morning Ma’am, could you please cash this cheque for me please?”

The cashier replies, "It would be my pleasure sir. Could you please show me your IC?"

Lee Hsien Loong: "Truthfully, I did not bring my IC with me as I didn't think there was any need to. I am Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, the Prime Minister of Singapore!"

Cashier: "Yes sir, I know who you are, but with all the regulations, monitoring of the banks, security hacks and loopholes etc, I must insist on seeing your IC."

Lee Hsien Loong: "Just ask anyone here at the bank who I am and they will tell you. Everybody knows who I am!"

Cashier: "I am sorry sir, but these are the bank rules and I must follow them. I cannot lose my job… I… I… I need to support my elderly parents... they can’t withdraw their CPF money."

Lee Hsien Loong: "I understand your concerns, but I am urging you to please cash this cheque. I really need to buy a gift for Ho Ching for her birthday!"

Cashier: “Look, how about this. One day, Fandi Ahmad came in without his IC. To prove he was Fandi Ahmad, he took out his football and lobbed it into the dustbin at the other side of the room. With that shot, we knew he was Fandi Ahmad and cashed his cheque. Another time, Feng Tianwei came in without her IC. She pulled out her table tennis racquet and made a fabulous shot where the ball landed in my coffee cup. With that shot, we cashed her cheque. So, sir, what can you do to prove that it is you, and only you, as the Prime Minister of Singapore?”

Lee Hsien Loong stood there thinking, and thinking, and finally says: "Honestly, there is nothing that comes to my mind. I can't think of a single thing. I have absolutely no idea what to do and I don’t have a clue."

Cashier: "Will that be large or small bills, Mr. Prime Minister?"
 

Papsmearer

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How fitting, this dig given what's unfolding

Lee Hsien Loong walks into DBS to cash a cheque.

Surrounded by a large entourage of bodyguards, he approaches the cashier. “Good morning Ma’am, could you please cash this cheque for me please?”

The cashier replies, "It would be my pleasure sir. Could you please show me your IC?"

Lee Hsien Loong: "Truthfully, I did not bring my IC with me as I didn't think there was any need to. I am Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, the Prime Minister of Singapore!"

Cashier: "Yes sir, I know who you are, but with all the regulations, monitoring of the banks, security hacks and loopholes etc, I must insist on seeing your IC."

Lee Hsien Loong: "Just ask anyone here at the bank who I am and they will tell you. Everybody knows who I am!"

Cashier: "I am sorry sir, but these are the bank rules and I must follow them. I cannot lose my job… I… I… I need to support my elderly parents... they can’t withdraw their CPF money."

Lee Hsien Loong: "I understand your concerns, but I am urging you to please cash this cheque. I really need to buy a gift for Ho Ching for her birthday!"

Cashier: “Look, how about this. One day, Fandi Ahmad came in without his IC. To prove he was Fandi Ahmad, he took out his football and lobbed it into the dustbin at the other side of the room. With that shot, we knew he was Fandi Ahmad and cashed his cheque. Another time, Feng Tianwei came in without her IC. She pulled out her table tennis racquet and made a fabulous shot where the ball landed in my coffee cup. With that shot, we cashed her cheque. So, sir, what can you do to prove that it is you, and only you, as the Prime Minister of Singapore?”

Lee Hsien Loong stood there thinking, and thinking, and finally says: "Honestly, there is nothing that comes to my mind. I can't think of a single thing. I have absolutely no idea what to do and I don’t have a clue."

Cashier: "Will that be large or small bills, Mr. Prime Minister?"
hahahhahaha
 

Papsmearer

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Very tired and embarrassed to be Singaporean. Stupid squabble over a house. Is it really the house or is it just a front to air their dislike for each other?

Come on, all are no angel. How often they visited during his last days? Who agree to the intubation?

Only worthwhile lesson learnt:
1. Our children don't take on the character of both parents. They follow the one that is closer to them.
2. WoMAN are the most vicious creature in the world.

Obviously its not about the house. it was never about the house.
 

Papsmearer

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7 mins ago .............

I wonder what happened to this agreement to sell the property and donate it to charity?

[h=1]Lee Kuan Yew’s family to donate the value of Oxley Rd house to charity[/h] PM Lee Hsien Loong, Mr Lee Hsien Yang and Dr Lee Wei Ling reiterate their request that Singaporeans respect the wishes of the late Mr Lee Kuan Yew, who passed away in March.

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[h=1]Lee family to donate value of 38, Oxley Rd to eight charities[/h] 1 of 3




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Mr Lee Kuan Yew knew about calls from the public to turn his house at 38, Oxley Road (above) into a museum and a memorial, but was adamant that it be demolished after his death.ST FILE PHOTO


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[h=2]His two sons pledge to each donate half the value of house, which Mr Lee wanted torn down[/h] Pearl Lee


Joyce Lim
Hong Kong Correspondent



Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and his brother Lee Hsien Yang have each agreed to donate half the value of Mr Lee Kuan Yew's Oxley Road house to eight charities, in honour of their father.
PM Lee, his brother and their sister Lee Wei Ling made this announcement in a joint statement issued yesterday, which PM Lee also posted on his Facebook page.
The three siblings hoped the state would honour their late father's wishes regarding the house. Mr Lee Kuan Yew died on March 23 at the age of 91.




"Dr Lee Wei Ling and Mr Lee Hsien Yang would like to honour the wish of the late Mr Lee Kuan Yew that the house at 38, Oxley Road be demolished after Dr Lee Wei Ling ceases to live in it," the statement said.

"Mr Lee Hsien Loong has recused himself from all government decisions involving 38, Oxley Road and, in his personal capacity, would also like to see this wish honoured," it added.

"Speaking as the children of the late Mr Lee Kuan Yew, Mr Lee Hsien Loong, Dr Lee Wei Ling and Mr Lee Hsien Yang hope the government will allow the late Mr Lee Kuan Yew's wish for the demolition of the house to be honoured and that all Singaporeans will support their cause."



The eight charities PM Lee and his brother will make the donations to were named in their father's obituary notice.

They are the Education Fund, the NTUC-U Care Fund and the Garden City Fund, as well as five community self-help groups: the Chinese Development Assistance Council, Mendaki, the Association of Muslim Professionals, Singapore Indian Development Association and the Eurasian Association.

The issue of 38, Oxley Road was in the news several weeks after Mr Lee's death, when Dr Lee Wei Ling and Mr Lee Hsien Yang issued a statement as executors and trustees of their father's last will.

They outlined their father's wishes regarding the house, and asked that Singaporeans respect his wish regarding the pre-war bungalow, which the late Mr Lee had lived in since the 1940s.

PM Lee also touched on 38, Oxley Road in Parliament in April, when he said a decision on the fate of the house was not required now as Dr Lee Wei Ling would continue to live there.

PM Lee said his father knew about calls from the public to turn the house into a museum and a memorial, but was adamant that it be demolished after his death.

PM Lee explained that his father was averse to the idea as he had seen too many houses of famous people "kept frozen in time... as a monument with people tramping in and out", and they invariably "become shabby".

The late Mr Lee wrote to the Cabinet at least twice to put his wishes on the record.

But if and when his sister no longer lives in the house, it was his father's wish that it should be demolished, PM Lee added.

"At that point, speaking as a son, I would like to see these wishes carried out," he said. "However, it will be up to the government of the day to consider the matter."

The issue of 38, Oxley Road continued to be discussed. In a commentary in The Straits Times later in April, sociologist Terence Chong and architectural historian Yeo Kang Shua called for relevant government agencies to form a panel of experts to determine if the house was worthy of preservation.

They said the debate on the property was "an opportunity to strengthen our state heritage institutions and due process, and consider the ramifications of carrying out the wishes of the owner of a potentially important building at the expense of national heritage".

In response, the Urban Redevelopment Authority and the National Heritage Board said in a joint

letter to ST's Forum pages that if the house is to be demolished, "the Government is likely to not allow the site to be redeveloped in a way that would diminish its historical significance, for example, for commercial or intensive residential development".

Some observers have suggested that while the house might be torn down, out of respect for Mr Lee's wishes, the site might be kept as a memorial to Mr Lee and the place where he founded the party that led Singapore to independence.

The site is zoned for a two-storey landed property. SLP International executive director Nicholas Mak said the zoning of land along this stretch of Oxley Road is unlikely to change in the medium term.

The lot area of 38, Oxley Road is 1,120.5 sq m, or 12,060 sq ft.

If the plot is sold, property consultants say it could fetch at least $24 million at $2,000 per sq ft, the lower end for landed property prices in the area.
 

PTADER

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LHY, LWL and each and everyone of the Lee clan including grandchildren were beneficiaries of the very "abuse of power", "misuse of position", "use of organ of the states", "big brother", "control of press", etc by LKY against all his opponents including "ordinary citizens" that he wanted to make examples off to hammer the entire populace into fearful submission.

Both had no problems with their father grooming LHL for politics and eventual ascension to the PMship. Why the big deal now when LHL wants, as much as he denies it, to do likewise by grooming his own son for politics and the PMship just as his father had done for him?

It is the height of hypocrisy for them to now whinge self-righteously as though they are heroes out to battle an unjust system in which they, prior to their family feud, were more than happy to grow up and live in, thrive on and in which they and the rest of their Lee clan have richly benefited from. The way LHY puts it, one would have thought he was leaving the country penniless with only the clothes on his back instead of with the tens, if not hundreds of millions, he has from being the son of "papa" and "mama".

Rest assured that if not for this family feud, these two would continue to be happy with the status quo of a controlled press, people being locked up, sued, bankrupted, hounded out of the country, etc and of one the Lee descendants being groomed to perpetuate the Lee dynasty.
 
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