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Serious Lee Wei Ling & Lee Hsien Yang condemns Lee Hsien Loong

Papsmearer

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I don't see why you are so enamoured of her…she looks like the type who would set you a quota of how many strokes you are permitted to facilitate ejaculation…..step over and you will be removed from the vagina.
Yes, Fern has always said that her time is precious and as senior partner she is paid thousands of dollars and hour. So its not an efficient use of her hours to fuck me. I made a business case that if I can get a prostitute to fuck me for $200 an hour, then it saves her a lot of time to earn big money. The net difference is very good for us. She agreed immediately as the financial logic is irrefutable. So, that is how it works, ok?
 

zhihau

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She agreed immediately as the financial logic is irrefutable. So, that is how it works, ok?

Think must award you with the Annual SBF PBM KimBai to you already... KNN... I laugh until my neighbors came over to ask if I'm ok! Bwahahahahahahaa...
 

The_Hypocrite

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Stop swallowing the PAP propaganda and prostitute press news. It was never about the house. And it will never be about the house. LKY and the prostitute press wants to make you think its about the house, and whether to demolish it or not.

The real issue is the need and desire for LHL to make political capital for himself and his heir apparent son by using the brand, and name of LKY to do this. LKY left very little tangible and physical assets for the PAP to use. There is no big statue of him, there are no monuments, no Napoleon's Tomb, no eternal flame ala JFK, etc. There is no Lenin's corpse displayed or Mao's dead body displayed for people to walk by and see. The House is one of the very few tangible connection and that is why Gay Loong has to make use of it for political gain. Displaying his red briefcase, his pajamas, his jogging shoes, golf clubs, etc does not have the same effect as someone as walking thru the hallowed halls and rooms of Oxley would. This is what Ling and Yang are trying to prevent and this is what Whore and Gay are trying to accomplish. Capisce?

This assumes that old fart still has any political capital left. The only ones that will remember the old fart fondly are the pioneer generation and as each year pass by their numbers decrease.. old fart is actually a political liability now with the younger generations. Things in Singkieland is not like the 80s...at that time there was hope n pride being a Singkie but now things are getting harder...things are worse...and for the last erection old fart capital is one time only. How many old fart funerals and commemoration can one has? Pinky should start making his own way now..do better than old fart n he will have a legacy to pass on to his kids. Look at Chiang kai shek son....he made his own mark and is remembered for him and not chiang Kai shek...if pinky wants to be successful..he better buck up..he not much time left and Singkieland not doing well..fuck around some more..and it will be too late for him.
 

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Don't be a gong cheebye singaporean. Use the brain that God gave you. Hongyi has had a Facebook account for many years. Yet prior to his "For what it is worth, I really have no interest in politics", he had not posted for over 2 years since his eulogy to his yeye. Now all of a sudden his posts a weak one liner and everyone takes that as gospel truth? "I have no interest in politics" is not the same as "I assure you, i will never enter politics", and its not the same as "I will never be a part of singapore politics forever. "I have no interest in Politics" simply means "I have no interest in politics NOW". But maybe later with my mother's fixing of things, I can go into politics.

When professional engineer or whatever declare that something is safe, there is always a clause that it is based at the time of inspection. It is to cover there back. Whether it is really safe depends on the integrity of the individual. Similarly both their statements are true only at the time of declaration. It is common practice. However, it is a requirement for them to do it. Notice that this issue is allowed to rest in subsequent battle. Think about it, I hope I am not gong.
 

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No matter how you slice and dice the issue, it is still a family matter. It has nothing to do with the government.

Started as a family issue. When first born started abusing and misusing public, state and government resources to settle his family issue, it is no longer a private family issue but a public one.

Both LHL and HC have denied that they harbour any ambition for their son Hongyi to be the PM someday. Even Hongyi himself has stated clearly that he has no aspiration to be a politician.

That's the most crucial talent required of a politician wannabe - the ability to lie. He has shown he has this crucial talent. Note important phrase "At the moment, no", in bold and red, below.

Extract from: PM Lee talks about casinos, population, family, in Part 2 of Chinese TV interview (November 2014)

Yang Lan: Speaking of children, your children are also growing up.

PM Lee: They have grown up already.

Yang Lan: That's true. Are any of them interested in entering politics?

PM Lee: At the moment, no.
 

swissbank

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Why I am speaking up - in Chinese. This translation was volunteered by some friends. Errors or inaccuracies are of course entirely mine.

自从关于我父母的欧思礼路家居事件曝光之后,我姐姐玮玲与我在没有其他途径的情况下,被迫利用社交媒体向新加坡人民说出真相。

我是前总理李光耀的小儿子,我哥哥是现任总理李显龙,姐姐是李玮玲医生。我不是一个政治家,也从来没有这个愿望。在这事件之前,我是一个从来没有在Facebook张贴的人,是个初学者。我既没有工作人员队伍,也没有团队支持我。 希望大家体谅,我只不过是一个执行先父遗愿的人而已。

《为什么》

许多人问我跟玮玲为什会被迫把这事对全国的新加坡人公布?为什么公开成了国家的争议 ? 原因是我们被哥哥设立的一个秘密内阁委员会所逼迫。

在李光耀先生的家庭里长大是一个非常独特的经验。父亲影响力非凡,母亲是一个非常有原则,隐私的女性。从小,父母教导我们要廉洁,正义,是非分明。

父亲去世的时候,执行双亲对欧思礼路家居遗愿的问题就浮现。根据父亲的遗愿要执行欧思礼路家居的拆除。父亲深信新加坡需要注重前途,不是什么纪念碑。身为先父遗嘱执行人的我和姐姐玮玲抱着先父的期望和信任来完成他的遗愿。但是,我们的哥哥与大嫂强烈反对拆除父亲的故居。

我跟玮玲在执行父亲的遗嘱的过程,每一步都受到巨大的阻碍。哥哥不希望我们达成父亲的遗愿,甚至企图改写历史说先父要保留欧思礼路的故居。哥哥显龙私下利用权力来保留欧思礼路的故居。为了私人目的,违背了先父的遗愿。

在这种情况之下,我告诉自己:“这事件太庞大了,我不善于政治。不如顺其自然,这事不值得。何必惹来公众哗然,角色暗杀,甚至流亡的下场 ? ” 但要做正确的事情,又谈何容易。

我只是一个凡人。但我会尽我所能,全力以赴来执行双亲对我的期望 - 正直和守诚信的来完成先父委托于我的遗愿。父亲跟母亲要拆除欧思礼路家居的心愿是坚定不移的。为了达到双亲的心愿,身为儿女的我和玮玲别无选择,把这事件公开于所有新加坡人民。

《我的目的》

这事件公开之后,许多人与我联系。有人骂我,也有人给我鼓励与支持。但是他们都问我为什要这么做?

我只是一个一心一意要执行先父遗愿的儿子。

我的父亲的遗愿是:在他去世之后,在姐姐玮玲不再住在这家居的时候,就要把这家居拆除。姐姐玮玲没有结婚也没有孩子,欧思礼路家居是她从小唯一的家居。在父亲晚年玮玲一直照顾着他,父亲望他过世后希玮玲能够继续住在那里,直到她自愿搬离。

有人不正确的说我以150%市价买下欧思礼路家居,为的是要重建公寓以赚取利润。我丝毫无这样的想法或意念。

保留欧思礼路家居就是违背了父亲的价值观。我买下欧思礼路家居纯粹只是为了完成父亲的心愿,执行他的遗愿。

玮玲可能会继续住在欧思礼路家居很多年。我唯一希望就是当她不住在那里的时候,我可以依照父亲的遗愿执行拆除欧思礼路家居。到现在为止,我跟玮玲都不能明确的知道政府会不会批准我们拆除欧思礼路家居。我们建议拆除后可以建立一个纪念公园,但是显龙坚决不接受。

我们的父亲,跟我们都了解政府有权力保留欧思礼路家居,因为法律至上。但使我们感到很痛心的是哥哥显龙公开场合表现孝道,私下却利用他的权力保留欧思礼路家居,为的是私人目的。
 

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PTADER

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Quotable quotes:

"I think in the long term, anti-corruption is an important factor in economic development. We take anti-corruption seriously in Singapore; the PAP has ruled Singapore for the past 55 years, and we have always been determined to maintain a clean and honest government. There are of course, times when people flout the rules, or violate the law, we don't care who it is, they will be punished by strict laws. Because if we protect the person, or cover up, or hush it, I think everyone will know sooner or later." Extract from: PM Lee talks about casinos, population, family, in Part 2 of Chinese TV interview (November 2014)
 

PTADER

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Yes and even more to Ling. Means a lot to me with so many memories. Its the first place that I pakchiu cheng. First place that I saw titties (my Indon maid), and the first place I lost my virginity (also to my Indon maid). So many memories, and The memories will be so thick they'll have to brush them away from their faces.

Mammaries. Not "memories".
 

PTADER

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No one can tolerate the incessant barrage of criticisms and allegations and get away scot-free.LHL is not unlike LKY.

So far, he has shown himself to be a bloody wimp in this saga.

So many Molotov cocktails hurled at him by the siblings and yet no demands for apology, no demands for the siblings to remove their FB postings within 72 hours...or else, no threats and letters of demand by his favourite bayi, no demands for retractions, lawsuits for his "disparaged" and "impugned" "character, credit and integrity", no worldwide Mareva injunction, etc.

I bet he is hoping that tomorrow, the pained and sorrowful face he has been rehearsing on for the past few days, and the pretentious pauses and blinks to "stifle" the non-existent tears (since they refuse to cooperate and flow freely), will be enough.

What a useless and disappointing fuck of a wimp.
 

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Sekali everyone found out he alrdy fled with billions in submarine n left his q70 parked at changi naval base becos cannot fit in
 

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The usual fellatio specialist hoodwinking the gullible into tomorrow's session being an actual "debate" - and with the addition of a newcomer...

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...rm-for-pm-lee-to-address-38-8997200?cid=fbcna

Parliament an appropriate platform for PM Lee to address 38 Oxley Road allegations: Analysts

Singapore
SINGAPORE: Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong’s decision to use a debate in Parliament to address allegations against him has been called into question by his siblings and some netizens, but political observers say it provides an “authoritative” platform for him to address the claims.

“The accusations of autocracy and lack of consultation imply that there is something remiss in the operation of PM Lee’s cabinet, so Parliament is the best place to clear the air,” said Associate Professor Alan Chong from the S Rajaratnam School of International Studies.

PM Lee will make a ministerial statement in Parliament on Monday (Jul 3). He has said that the "baseless accusations" against him and the Government must be dealt with openly. He has also invited all Members of Parliament to question him and his Cabinet colleagues vigorously on the matter.

The session in Parliament comes after a series of claims and accusations made by PM Lee’s siblings, Mr Lee Hsien Yang and Dr Lee Wei Ling. They said in a six-page statement on Jun 14 that they "felt threatened" by PM Lee’s use of his position and influence over the Singapore Government and its agencies to "drive his personal agenda” since their father died on Mar 23, 2015. They also accused him of wanting to demolish 38 Oxley Road against the wishes of the late Mr Lee Kuan Yew, their father.

Singapore Management University’s Eugene Tan said that having a parliamentary debate is necessary.

The debate will provide an authoritative platform for the Government and the PM to reinforce and convince Singaporeans of the PM's and the Government's narrative,” he said. However, he added that the debate may not achieve its aims unless People’s Action Party politicians, who constitute the vast majority of MPs, reflect their constituents' concerns and questions, and dissect the evidence and arguments without fear or favour.

“It is a time for Parliament to try to mediate, to offer ideas on what can be done with regards to 38 Oxley Road, and for it to scrutinise whether controls and checks and balances are adequate. Parliament's standing will be diminished if it is not seen to have not stepped up,” said the law professor.

Furthermore, although it is a private dispute among Mr Lee Kuan Yew’s children, the fact that it is in the public sphere makes it an appropriate matter for parliamentary discussion, said Prof Chong.

“The dispute has created a ‘grey’ political atmosphere, as the third party - ordinary citizens who are not directly involved - are unsure where we stand in relation to the dispute,” he said.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN AFTER THE DEBATE?

Mr Tan said that it is unlikely the dispute will be resolved following the debate, as there will be lots of details and dates to follow, and “information overload” is a real possibility.

Also, he suggested that the debate will probably not repair the rift between the PM and his siblings, “who will respond to his and the Government’s statements and replies in Parliament”.

If it is decided that further scrutiny is needed, Parliament could decide to have a select committee look further into the matter, or the PM could convene a Committee of Inquiry, Prof Tan added.

But the longer the matter drags, the more damaging it will be for the Government, he cautioned.

Prof Chong said it is possible that PM Lee will offer an olive branch to his siblings, being an “honourable man”. However, he also said there is a possibility that the those involved may start lawsuits, with more private matters laid out for public judgment.

“But it is also a problem-solving formula. They may settle out of court,” he said.
 

Wunderfool

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The usual fellatio specialist hoodwinking the gullible into tomorrow's session being an actual "debate" - and with the addition of a newcomer...

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...rm-for-pm-lee-to-address-38-8997200?cid=fbcna

Parliament an appropriate platform for PM Lee to address 38 Oxley Road allegations: Analysts

Singapore
SINGAPORE: Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong’s decision to use a debate in Parliament to address allegations against him has been called into question by his siblings and some netizens, but political observers say it provides an “authoritative” platform for him to address the claims.

“The accusations of autocracy and lack of consultation imply that there is something remiss in the operation of PM Lee’s cabinet, so Parliament is the best place to clear the air,” said Associate Professor Alan Chong from the S Rajaratnam School of International Studies.

PM Lee will make a ministerial statement in Parliament on Monday (Jul 3). He has said that the "baseless accusations" against him and the Government must be dealt with openly. He has also invited all Members of Parliament to question him and his Cabinet colleagues vigorously on the matter.

The session in Parliament comes after a series of claims and accusations made by PM Lee’s siblings, Mr Lee Hsien Yang and Dr Lee Wei Ling. They said in a six-page statement on Jun 14 that they "felt threatened" by PM Lee’s use of his position and influence over the Singapore Government and its agencies to "drive his personal agenda” since their father died on Mar 23, 2015. They also accused him of wanting to demolish 38 Oxley Road against the wishes of the late Mr Lee Kuan Yew, their father.

Singapore Management University’s Eugene Tan said that having a parliamentary debate is necessary.

The debate will provide an authoritative platform for the Government and the PM to reinforce and convince Singaporeans of the PM's and the Government's narrative,” he said. However, he added that the debate may not achieve its aims unless People’s Action Party politicians, who constitute the vast majority of MPs, reflect their constituents' concerns and questions, and dissect the evidence and arguments without fear or favour.

“It is a time for Parliament to try to mediate, to offer ideas on what can be done with regards to 38 Oxley Road, and for it to scrutinise whether controls and checks and balances are adequate. Parliament's standing will be diminished if it is not seen to have not stepped up,” said the law professor.

Furthermore, although it is a private dispute among Mr Lee Kuan Yew’s children, the fact that it is in the public sphere makes it an appropriate matter for parliamentary discussion, said Prof Chong.

“The dispute has created a ‘grey’ political atmosphere, as the third party - ordinary citizens who are not directly involved - are unsure where we stand in relation to the dispute,” he said.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN AFTER THE DEBATE?

Mr Tan said that it is unlikely the dispute will be resolved following the debate, as there will be lots of details and dates to follow, and “information overload” is a real possibility.

Also, he suggested that the debate will probably not repair the rift between the PM and his siblings, “who will respond to his and the Government’s statements and replies in Parliament”.

If it is decided that further scrutiny is needed, Parliament could decide to have a select committee look further into the matter, or the PM could convene a Committee of Inquiry, Prof Tan added.

But the longer the matter drags, the more damaging it will be for the Government, he cautioned.

Prof Chong said it is possible that PM Lee will offer an olive branch to his siblings, being an “honourable man”. However, he also said there is a possibility that the those involved may start lawsuits, with more private matters laid out for public judgment.

“But it is also a problem-solving formula. They may settle out of court,” he said.


Stating all the possibilities of the outcome of the parliamentary debate on the Oxley 38 means that he doesn't have the inside knowledge of LHL and his siblings. LHY must have known very well how his brother will react to his every move and tactic. He is at least one step ahead of him.

One thing for sure , the longer the issue drags on, the worst it is for LHL and for Singapore. LHY wants LHL to demolish the house according to LKY's wish, plain and simple. If that is not going to happen, LHL and his government will be dragged down and continue to get distracted from bigger and more important national issues.
 
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