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Serious Lee Wei Ling & Lee Hsien Yang condemns Lee Hsien Loong

flatearther

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Looks like serious criminal conduct by at least 2 family members and at least 2 lawyers not related to the family. No wonder the cabinet committee wanted the related parties to provide a stat dec of the events. it will naturally extend to non family members.
Yes, LHY and LSF, plus Bernard Lui, Elizabeth Kong and Ng Joo Khin; also, it happened in December 2013, after LKY had suffered a "Transient Ischaemic Attack" earlier that year (in February 2013):
pmo.gov.sg/newsroom/statement-prime-ministers-office-5
only about three months after he made his "Sixth Will" in November 2012:
facebook.com/notes/lee-hsien-loong/summary-of-statutory-declarations/1507498539312847
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...atutory-declarations-to-ministerial-committee

7. Under the First Will, Mr Lee gave each child an equal share of his estate (the "Estate"). However, under the Sixth Will made on 2 November 2012, Mr Lee gave LWL an extra share (relative to LHY and me), and he told LWL about this.

8. As I only later learnt, this issue became the subject of discussion between LHY and Mr Lee in late 2013 and on 16 December 2013 at 7.08 pm, LHY's wife, Mrs Lee Suet Fern ("LSF") sent an email to Mr Lee, copied to LHY and KKL ("LSF's Email"), stating:

"Dear Pa Pa

This was the original agreed Will which ensures that all 3 children receive equal shares, taking into account the relative valuations (as at the date of demise) of the properties each receives.

Kim Li

Grateful if you could please engross."

LSF appeared to have attached a file named (LAST_WILL-LKY-Draft of 19 August 2011.DOC) to that email.

9. It would appear from that email that those discussions resulted in Mr Lee deciding to revert to his earlier decision to give each child an equal share in the Estate.

10. A mere 23 minutes after this email was sent, at 7.31 pm, LHY replied to LSF's Email removing KKL as an addressee and adding Ms Wong Lin Hoe ("WLH"), who was Mr Lee's Private Secretary, in the "cc" field. In that email, LHY told Mr Lee:

"Pa

I couldn't get in touch with Kim Li. I believe she is away. I don't think it is wise to wait till she is back. I think all you need is a witness to sign the will. Fern can get one of her partners to come round with an engrossed copy of the will to execute and witness. They can coordinate it with Lin Hoe for a convenient time."

11. KKL had prepared all of Mr Lee's previous wills. It is unclear what efforts LHY or LSF had made to get in touch with KKL when LHY told Mr Lee on 16 December 2013 that he could not get in touch with KKL and that it was not wise to wait till KKL got back to change his will. In fact, KKL subsequently told LSF (the following afternoon, when she learnt what had happened) that she did not seem to have received LSF's Email. It is also not clear why LHY thought that there was an urgency to the matter. It is however interesting that he suggested that his wife, clearly an interested party, and her partners would prepare the new will.

12. At 8.12 pm, before any response from Mr Lee, LSF sent an email to WLH, copied to LHY and her fellow lawyer from her law firm (Stamford Law Corporation as it then was; now Morgan Lewis Stamford LLC), one Mr Bernard Lui ("BL"), to inform WLH that BL had the will ready for execution and that WLH could reach BL directly to make arrangements for the signing of the will. So, in the space of 41 minutes, LSF saw to the preparation of the new will and got one of her lawyers to be on standby to get it executed by Mr Lee.

13. Mr Lee replied to LHY's email at 9.42 pm. In view of LHY's representation that he could not contact KKL, and of the urgency of the matter, Mr Lee acquiesced to LHY's suggestion not to wait for KKL and agreed with LHY's suggestion to sign the new will.

14. The very next morning, LSF sent two lawyers from Stamford Law Corporation to be at 38 Oxley Road to procure Mr Lee's signature on the Last Will. The two lawyers, BL and one Ms Elizabeth Kong ("EK"), arrived at 38 Oxley Road at 11.05 am on 17 December 2013. They left at 11.20 am. They were present at 38 Oxley Road for 15 minutes only, including the time for logging into and out from the property. The time taken to execute the Last Will would have been even less. They plainly came only to witness Mr Lee signing the Last Will and not to advise him.

15. In the afternoon of 17 December 2013, WLH then sent an email to Mr Lee stating "We have received a faxed copy of the signed document for Mr Lee to re-read in the office". This email was curious because WLH was not present when Mr Lee signed the Last Will and could not have known whether he had read it in the first place. WLH sent this email after receiving a fax copy of the signed will. There is nothing to suggest that Mr Lee had asked WLH to get a copy for him to "re-read" in the office. Also, it is not credible that she would know that that was the reason the fax had been sent to her, unless the sender or the fax itself stated so.

16. LHY and LSF did not copy LWL or me on this email correspondence with Mr Lee on 16 and 17 December 2013 regarding the making and signing of the Last Will. I became aware of these troubling circumstances only later, as I explain below.
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19. In any event, as is clear from its contents, LSF's Email distinctly and clearly gave Mr Lee the impression that the new will would change only the division of shares, with the result that each child would have an equal share, just like in the First Will. Yet, the Last Will that LSF and her law firm prepared and got Mr Lee to sign went beyond that. Significantly, they re-inserted the Demolition Clause, even though that clause does not appear to have been discussed at the time of the making of the Last Will and had in fact been removed by Mr Lee from his immediately prior two wills (the Fifth and Sixth Wills).
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21. In fact, if, as appears from LSF's Email, the change Mr Lee had wanted to make to his will in December 2013 was to reinstate the equal division of the Estate among the three children, that could have been easily done by reverting to the Fifth Will (which provided for equal division). The Fifth Will was as complete as the Sixth Will and similar in all material respects to the Sixth Will save for the proportions of the Estate bequeathed to each of the three children. Further, as KKL had prepared the Fifth and Sixth Wills, she could easily have been asked to make that one change.

22. On 12 April 2015, Mr Lee's Last Will was read. Mr Lee's three children, HC and LSF were present at the reading. Also present were two lawyers from LSF's law firm, Mr Ng Joo Khin ("NJK") and BL (who was a witness to signing of the Last Will). At that reading, LSF volunteered that Mr Lee had asked her to prepare the Last Will, but that she had not wanted to get personally involved and had therefore gotten NJK from her law firm to handle the preparation of the Last Will. BL then confirmed that he was one of the witnesses to the Last Will. I could not help but form the impression that this was all rehearsed, and wondered why these statements were made even when no questions had been raised about the validity of the Last Will. BL then went on, in our presence, to examine the seals and signatures on the envelope, opened the envelope, examined the initials and signatures on every page, and pronounced that this was the document that he had witnessed before handing it to NJK. NJK did not dispute LSF's account that he had handled the preparation of the Last Will. He then went on to read the Last Will to Mr Lee's family, word for word, including the page and paragraph numbers.

23. I was so struck by the sequence of volunteered statements that on 23 April 2015, 11 days later, I recounted to DPM Teo Chee Hean in my office what had happened at the reading of the Last Will, including what LSF had said.
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26. It was only after the reading of the Last Will and the dispute arose that I looked up old family emails.

27. I then learnt that on 3 January 2014 at 10.30 am, WLH had sent an email ("WLH's Email") to LSF, copied to Mr Lee, LHY, LWL, HC, KKL and me, attaching a copy of Mr Lee's codicil. The codicil had nothing to do with the contents of the Last Will but dealt with the bequest of some carpets. Buried in the email chain to WLH's Email were LSF's and LHY's emails of 16 and 17 December 2013. Back in January 2014, I had not considered it necessary to read the entire email chain and did not do so. I did not feel that there was any need, and I was not anxious, to acquaint myself with my father's wills. I felt that those were matters for him, and I left it at that. This is evident from my query to LHY on 13 May 2015 about a codicil to the Last Will whose existence I was not aware of. LHY replied that I had been copied on WLH's Email in January 2014 about the codicil. I had not earlier paid any attention to that and could not locate WLH's Email at that point. I therefore asked LHY for a copy.
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30. When I subsequently reviewed the 16 and 17 December 2013 emails, there was nothing to show that NJK had been involved in the preparation of the Last Will as LSF had claimed during the reading of the Last Will on 12 April 2015. I am also not aware of anything which shows that NJK had met or communicated with Mr Lee on the Last Will. I therefore do not understand how Mr Lee could have given instructions to NJK on the preparation of the Last Will.
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37. I continue to have grave concerns about the events surrounding the making of the Last Will. I am not aware of any facts which suggest that Mr Lee was informed or advised (by NJK, whom LSF claimed had handled the preparation of the Last Will, or any other lawyer) about all the changes that were made when he signed the Last Will, or that Mr Lee was properly advised about the contents of the Last Will. In fact, there is no evidence that Mr Lee even knew that the Demolition Clause had been re-inserted into the Last Will.

38. My concerns are heightened by what appears to be a conflict of interest: LSF was involved in the preparation and/or signing of the Last Will, while her husband, LHY, was a beneficiary under the Last Will and stood to gain by the removal of LWL's extra share in the Estate under the Last Will. It would appear that LHY felt very strongly about LWL not receiving an extra share, which explains why, in April 2015, he told me that there "would have been big trouble" if Mr Lee had not changed the will back to equal shares between the three children.

39. These facts and matters give rise to the following serious questions:

(1) Why did LSF say, at the reading of the Last Will on 12 April 2015, that she had not wanted to be involved in the preparation of the Last Will and that she had asked NJK to handle the matter, when she had been was intimately involved in the events surrounding and leading up to the Last Will?

(2) What was LSF's role in the preparation and signing of the Last Will?

(3) What, if any, knowledge did LHY and LSF have of the First to Sixth Wills?

(4) Whether and to what extent were the earlier wills discussed with Mr Lee in the lead-up to the signing of the Last Will and when the Last Will was signed, and who had those discussions?

(5) Were the provisions of the Last Will explained to Mr Lee, and if so, who explained them to him?

(6) Who gave instructions to NJK in relation to the Last Will, and what were those instructions? Did NJK, who is said by LSF to have prepared the Last Will, ever meet or speak to Mr Lee to take instructions or to get the Last Will signed?

(7) Did Mr Lee give specific instructions to re-insert the Demolition Clause in the Last Will, and if so, to whom?

(8) Was there a conflict of interest on the part of LSF, her fellow lawyers and her firm?

(9) What transpired during the brief time that BL and EK were with Mr Lee? Did LSF tell BL and EK to ensure that Mr Lee received independent legal advice before asking him to sign the Last Will?
 
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flatearther

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Hmm let me guess. LKY left the house to LHL.
Actually, you did not have to guess, simply because LWL and LHY had already revealed it two days ago (in the early morning of 14 June):
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO LEE KUAN YEW’S VALUES?
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... the gift of the house to him had been obtained by him ...


LHL took legal possession of the house as per the will.
Don't be more then a stupid asshole. His house was left in the estate, not to LHL.
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LHL never took possession of the house because Wei Ling is still living there. U really are a cunt talking shit here.
Nearly two days later, LHL also confirmed it:
facebook.com/1507500235979344
facebook.com/notes/lee-hsien-loong/summary-of-statutory-declarations/1507498539312847
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...atutory-declarations-to-ministerial-committee

35. As part of efforts to resolve the family disputes amicably, after LWL and LHY expressed unhappiness that 38 Oxley Road had been bequeathed to me following Mr Lee's passing, I told them that I was prepared to transfer 38 Oxley Road to LWL for a nominal sum of S$1 on the condition that should the property be transacted later or acquired by the Government, all proceeds would go to charity.

36. After the General Elections, LWL and LHY agreed to my fresh proposal to transfer 38 Oxley Road to LHY at market value, on condition that LHY and I each donated an amount equivalent to half of that value to charity, to pre-empt any future controversy over compensation or redevelopment proceeds. I was prepared to transfer 38 Oxley Road to LHY so that he and LWL could handle the 38 Oxley Road matter as they saw fit between them. In accordance with our agreement, I donated half of the value of 38 Oxley Road to charity. Although not required under the agreement, I also donated a sum equivalent to the other half of the value of 38 Oxley Road to charity. 38 Oxley Road now wholly belongs to LHY.
 
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flatearther

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LKY should have had 38 Oxley Road demolished while he was still alive. Then all this would not be a problem.

After all he had Cluny to live at. And his wife had already passed away before him so to say that keeping Oxley was for his wife to get treatment due to proximity to SGH would have no longer been valid after Oct 2 2010.
Which is why I posted the following reply to you yesterday (in the early morning):
sammyboy.com/showthread.php?244311-Lee-Wei-Ling-amp-Lee-Hsien-Yang-condemns-Lee-Hsien-Loong&p=2613896#post2613896
Maybe that was LKY's ulterior intention all along, for the sake of LHL (simply because he is LKY's eldest son)? :wink:
And at the same time, LKY can also look "good" because he's "humble" enough to wish to demolish his own house, in order to show everyone that he's refraining from being vain. :wink:
Furthermore, according to LHL's latest revelations, LKY even removed the "Demolition Clause" in his penultimate two wills in 2012:
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...atutory-declarations-to-ministerial-committee

1. Mr Lee Kuan Yew ("Mr Lee") made six wills before his last will of 17 December 2013 (the "Last Will"). All the wills, save for the Last Will, were prepared by Ms Kwa Kim Li ("KKL").

2. I learnt about the contents of the Last Will only on 12 April 2015, when the Last Will was read to the family. I saw copies of the six wills preceding the Last Will only in June 2015, when KKL provided the family with the same. Only then was I able to review and compare the terms and changes between those wills and the Last Will.

3. The Demolition Clause first appeared in Mr Lee's first will made on 20 August 2011 (the "First Will").

4. Mr Lee gave instructions to remove the Demolition Clause, and it was removed, from the penultimate two wills (the "Fifth Will" and "Sixth Will"). However, it somehow found its way back into the Last Will.

5. The Demolition Clause in the Last Will is now being used by Dr Lee Wei Ling ("LWL") and Mr Lee Hsien Yang ("LHY") to claim that Mr Lee was firm in his wish that the house at 38 Oxley Road (the "House") be demolished, and that he was not prepared to accept its preservation or contemplate options short of demolition. There is no basis for these claims, not least because of the deeply troubling circumstances concerning the making of the Last Will.
 
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flatearther

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meanwhile, the big news in the u.s. is about a survey which says 6.9% of americans believe chocolate milk is squeezed from brown cow tits. :p

https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-7-percent-americans-think-brown-cows-chocolate-185336846.html
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The_Hypocrite

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Why did pinky say he has to recluse himself from the cabinet decision about lky estate etc? This is a private matter n if pinky just say follow the will n the will say demolish the house than that's it. N Why is it a cabinet matter? Than cabinet can also make decision on Othman wok estate, Goh keng sweet estate, wee Kim wee estate etc...
 

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Why did pinky say he has to recluse himself from the cabinet decision about lky estate etc? This is a private matter n if pinky just say follow the will n the will say demolish the house than that's it. N Why is it a cabinet matter? Than cabinet can also make decision on Othman wok estate, Goh keng sweet estate, wee Kim wee estate etc...

PM Lee needed a high brain power committee to interpret this cheem statement from papa
 

scroobal

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This is the part why the allegations of abuse carries much weight. He is clearly using "organs of state" to run his own agenda. The appropriate things thing to do was the challenge the validity of the will in court.

It now appears the cabinet committee is running an inquiry on the validity of the will which is not their role in the first place. They should have told the prick to challenge it in court. I am sure AG chambers has been brought in to assist the committee.

Worse still the appointment of Lucien Wong as AG is now very clear and abuse position is now difficult to deny. V.K probably now knows why he was replaced by an older man who was not even an SC. Also suspicion on the creation of Deputy AG and filled by PAP member which is unprecedented.

Why did pinky say he has to recluse himself from the cabinet decision about lky estate etc? This is a private matter n if pinky just say follow the will n the will say demolish the house than that's it. N Why is it a cabinet matter? Than cabinet can also make decision on Othman wok estate, Goh keng sweet estate, wee Kim wee estate etc...
 

CoffeeAhSoh

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This is the part why the allegations of abuse carries much weight. He is clearly using "organs of state" to run his own agenda. The appropriate things thing to do was the challenge the validity of the will in court.

It now appears the cabinet committee is running an inquiry on the validity of the will which is not their role in the first place. They should have told the prick to challenge it in court. I am sure AG chambers has been brought in to assist the committee.

Worse still the appointment of Lucien Wong as AG is now very clear and abuse position is now difficult to deny. V.K probably now knows why he was replaced by an older man who was not even an SC. Also suspicion on the creation of Deputy AG and filled by PAP member which is unprecedented.



Why now . ? Why didnt pm challenge the validity earlier ? Say before mm pass on ? Why now ?
 

spotter542

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38 OxLEE Road worth how much today ?
Heard this property belongs to a Jewish businessman before Harry moved in :eek:


 

aurvandil

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The picture which emerges is incredibly sad. A daughter who forces her aged dying father to "capitulate" to her will. A daughter in law who rejoices at her "victory" of forcing a dying old man. Birthday celebrations reluctantly attended out of obligation rather than out of love.
 

Goldcheekon

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Will was not challenged. Probate granted by Court. Forming a secret ministerial committee, which members we still do not know to date, extracting statutory declarations and seeking to subvert the Final grant of probate sums up the blatant abuse of power allegation.
 

zhihau

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Alfian Saat has tonnes of material to work on for his next script.... Teehee...
 

frenchbriefs

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The picture which emerges is incredibly sad. A daughter who forces her aged dying father to "capitulate" to her will. A daughter in law who rejoices at her "victory" of forcing a dying old man. Birthday celebrations reluctantly attended out of obligation rather than out of love.

Old fart and gekko aren't exactly normal parents,when u grow up with people like that,exposed to wackos and neuropaths on a daily basis,it's not surprising the kids grow up with high levels of personality disorders, psychological disorders and neuropathy.just look at how hsien loong turned out,ur surprised the sister turned out any different?the Lee children aren't stupid,they knew exactly what type of people their father and mother was and they had spend their entire lives developing mechanisms to cope with it and deal with highly conflicting,arse loong thru cognitive dissonance and spouting rubbish all day long that contradicts conventional logic.the sis simply turned on him,gave him the cold shoulder and avoided him,but she is smart she knew what kind of man the father was and needed to be manipulated a certain way,coerced.

Children bear the sins of their parents,who we are is often a result of who they are,parents define their children psychologically,and it's often hard to change once u have grown up.
 
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apogee

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Will was not challenged. Probate granted by Court. Forming a secret ministerial committee, which members we still do not know to date, extracting statutory declarations and seeking to subvert the Final grant of probate sums up the blatant abuse of power allegation.

Using state resources for personal matters? Chee Soon Juan was persecuted for spending $16/- of university moneys.

For LHL's allegation to make sense, LKY must be gaga at that time. If that is so, he still an MP at the material time.
 
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