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Serious Lee Wei Ling & Lee Hsien Yang condemns Lee Hsien Loong

Seee3

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Stay tuned for Yang's this morning 4 jul update ... anytime now :biggrin:

I think not so soon. Maybe days later. Maybe the airing of 1 seaon of this drama will do. Maybe subsequent episode is just to close the story and thanks the viewers. If got season 2, very jialat.
 

PTADER

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Analysis and critique of Pinky's statements to Parliament


First born has misled Parliament with some key omissions and contradictions in his Ministerial statement. This is an offence under Section 31 (o) of the Parliament (Privileges, Immunities and Powers Act) (Chapter 217).

31. No person shall —

(o) present to Parliament or a committee any false, untrue, fabricated or falsified document with intent to deceive Parliament or a committee;
 

nayr69sg

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First born has misled Parliament with his Ministerial statement. This is an offence under Section 31 (o) of the Parliament (Privileges, Immunities and Powers Act) (Chapter 217).

31. No person shall —

(o) present to Parliament or a committee any false, untrue, fabricated or falsified document with intent to deceive Parliament or a committee;

I will show how and where he has misled Parliament when I have some time.

I think the only lawyer crazy enough to take LHL to court is M Ravi. Unfortunately he is insane and has had his licence revoked. Even then it would be hard pressed to find a judge to find LHL guilty. And even then it would be hard pressed to find a judge who will uphold the decision on appeal.

Hard pressed. The only way is to vote PAP out.
 

nayr69sg

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The way forward is to abolish the elections altogether and have a system like china.
Do away with all the wayang

That might happen when PAP starts to lose at general elections. But as long as they win elections with their wayang why stop?

Look at Transformers movies by Michael Bay? Lousy stories panned by critics wins worst movie of the year awards but millions watch it and it makes shit loads of money. Why stop making those movies?

I doubt Apple will stop making iPhones either.
 

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Porfirio Rubirosa

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Going by the latest joint FB post of the siblings this morning, they are not going stop until they fulfil both Harry and Mama Kwa's last dying wishes i.e. demolish 38OR.

In this regard they are now making a direct plea to the people of Singapore.


Now that they placed the house status on limbo, the siblings have nothing to lose but continue to take pot shots at least for a while. Anything longer will appear petty. I suspect that the siblings will declare that LWL will move out to force the Govt's hand.
 

sleaguepunter

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Going by the latest joint FB post of the siblings this morning, they are not going stop until they fulfil both Harry and Mama Kwa's last dying wishes i.e. demolish 38OR.

In this regard they are now making a direct plea to the people of Singapore.

hehe..... this 38OR drama more interesting than korean drama.

will the plot drag to the bitter end????

something got to give....:biggrin:
 

nayr69sg

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Geez over a stupid house and stupid wishes of a dead old man argue and argue until like that involve Parliament? MPs?

What a waste of resources and time.

LHL is a crook. But really LHY and LWL what has all this got to do with the public?

At the end of the day, this is between the siblings. LKY is dead. Yes he had his so called wishes and what not. But he is dead. DEAD!!!!!!

So just move on lah. Your brother is the most powerful man in Singapore now. Took over from the previous most powerful man in Singapore ie your FATHER.

Everything LHL is doing now he learnt from PaPa. Why are you all so surprised?

And clearly both of you also learned from Papa how to try to tug at the heartstrings of daft Singaporeans.

this is an absolute waste of time because in another 20 years there will no longer be a Singapore so who is going to care about the house that LKY lived in then?
 

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That will be the most likely outcome. PAP will do that but not right away. Must save face. They will let this play out for a bit. To capitulate so quickly would be a sign of weakness.

Give it about 3 months then after that they will say that after reviewing all the options and considerations, they have decided to demolish it.

The question is whether LHY and LWL will be daring to release more damaging information relating to the Lee's in other areas of governance.

What is LHY and LWL's agenda? So far it seems that they just want to see 38 Oxley demolished. Simple as that. All other intentions are just speculation by people eager to see the PAP trip and fall.

They may have other agenda, but so far they are keeping it to just the Oxley house .

For sure when LWL accuses LHL for being a dishonorable son, there may be more that meets the eyes.
 

CoffeeAhSoh

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Geez over a stupid house and stupid wishes of a dead old man argue and argue until like that involve Parliament? MPs?

What a waste of resources and time.

LHL is a crook. But really LHY and LWL what has all this got to do with the public?

At the end of the day, this is between the siblings. LKY is dead. Yes he had his so called wishes and what not. But he is dead. DEAD!!!!!!

So just move on lah. Your brother is the most powerful man in Singapore now. Took over from the previous most powerful man in Singapore ie your FATHER.

Everything LHL is doing now he learnt from PaPa. Why are you all so surprised?

And clearly both of you also learned from Papa how to try to tug at the heartstrings of daft Singaporeans.

this is an absolute waste of time because in another 20 years there will no longer be a Singapore so who is going to care about the house that LKY lived in then?



Just curious . Got important items / treasures in the property ? :*:
 

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Yang was too tired this morning... he finally posted ...:biggrin:

As I stated in an earlier message, first born has misled Parliament with some key omissions and contradictions in his Ministerial statement. This is one example by the siblings. This is an offence under Section 31 (o) of the Parliament (Privileges, Immunities and Powers Act) (Chapter 217).

As "outsiders" relying on the public statements made and the timeline of events, it is easy to pick up first born's omissions and contradictions. What more for the siblings with "insiders' knowledge", access to all information, e-mails and other documentary evidence?

Section 31 (o) of the Parliament (Privileges, Immunities and Powers Act) (Chapter 217):

31. No person shall —

(o) present to Parliament or a committee any false, untrue, fabricated or falsified document with intent to deceive Parliament or a committee;

General offences and penalties

36. (1) Any person who contravenes any of the provisions of this Act shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction —

(a) for a contravention of section 35, to a fine not exceeding $10,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 7 years or to both;

(b) for a contravention of section 31(d), (o), (p) or (q), to a fine not exceeding $7,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 years or to both; and

(c) for a contravention of any other provision of this Act, to a fine not exceeding $5,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years or to both.

(2) Any person who attempts to contravene any provision of this Act or abets the contravention of any such provision shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to the penalty to which he would have been liable for a contravention of the provision itself.

 

PTADER

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Contempt of Parliament - CSJ & SDP Research Team

Extract from:

"BG YEO - CHEE MADE UP DATA TO MISLEAD.


147th Prostitute Press
13 August 1996

"HEALTH Minister George Yeo yesterday took Singapore Democratic Party chief Chee Soon Juan to task for showing a "systematic pattern of fabricating data" to mislead the public and Select Committee on health subsidies.

He added that the SDP research team had made a "mockery" of the hearing, by presenting data which was incorrect, and then manufacturing an "incredible story" that this was due to a typing error.

Dr Chee, he said, had been misrepresenting data over a long period in two books he wrote in 1994 and 1995, as well as in his submission to the committee.

When discovered by the Select Committee at a hearing on July 15, Dr Chee had tried to "brazen it through" by saying that his submission was based on academic references, hoping that the committee would not follow up.

But the committee had "called his bluff", forcing Dr Chee to "scramble to reconcile his figures". The SDP chief tried to cover up his inaccuracies by lying to the committee in his Aug 1 letter to it, claming the mistake was a "typo error".

Arguing that this account "strained credibility", BG Yeo said that if such behaviour was allowed to go unchecked, it would lower the public's respect for Parliament.

"Parliament is a key institution in our country, and for Parliamentary democracy to work, there must be a basic honesty in the way the debate is carried out,"
he said, adding he would lodge a written complaint with the Speaker of Parliament, citing Dr Chee and his research team for Contempt of Parliament.[...]"

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4 SDP MEMBERS FACE CONTEMPT OF PARLIAMENT CHARGES.
147th Prostitute Press
1 September 1996

FOUR Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) members are facing contempt of Parliament charges following Health Minister George Yeo's complaint that they tried to mislead the Select Committee on Health Care Subsidies.

The SDP claims a key figure in its report to the committee, given as 5 per cent instead of 25 per cent, was a typing error. The matter has been referred to the Parliamentary Privileges Committee. If convicted, the four could be fined up to S$50,000, jailed until the current session of Parliament ends, excluded from Parliament or reprimanded.
 

scroobal

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I am curious about their strategy and endgame. Now that they have made the PM exhaust his Parliament card, the 2 remaining cards as I see it are the courts or cave in by allowing them to demolish the house.

This latest post suggest that they know what they doing and are prepared to go to court.

The fact that the word "false" has appeared, the stakes have gone up considerably.

Going by the latest joint FB post of the siblings this morning, they are not going stop until they fulfil both Harry and Mama Kwa's last dying wishes i.e. demolish 38OR.

In this regard they are now making a direct plea to the people of Singapore.
 
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