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Serious Now India angry with Singapore

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New Delhi pulled out of the strategic, annual Shangri-La Dialogue over ranking of Indian Minister

A snub from Singapore’s annual Shangri-La dialogue led to India’s decision to withdraw its delegation led by Minister of State for Defence Subhash Bhamre last week, officials have confirmed to The Hindu.

According to senior officials privy to the decision, organisers of the prestigious conference informed the government that the Indian Minister did not rank as highly as Pakistan’s Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, General Zubair Mahmood Hayat, as “civil military relations in Pakistan are different from those in India.”
Panel presence

Organisers at the International Institute of Strategic Studies (IISS), that runs the conference for the Government of Singapore told the Ministry of External Affairs that, as a result, Mr Bhamre, who was filling in for Defence Minister Arun Jaitley, would only be accommodated at a “plenary session” on the last day of the three-day event (June 2-4), and not on one of the main panels as General Hayat was.

“Obviously, we were not going to accept this kind of differentiation between India and Pakistan,” an official told The Hindu. Accordingly, the Indian High Commission in Singapore then informed the Singapore MFA that “under the circumstances”, the delegation from New Delhi was pulling out as the speaking slot confirmed was “not in line with their expectations”.

When asked, the IISS “regretted” the Indian decision, and said the MEA had informed them very late, only a week before the start of the conference that they wanted a “speaking role” for Mr Bhamre. Organisers said they had earlier expected Defence Minister Arun Jaitley to attend the event, since former Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar had addressed the Dialogue in June 2016.

“Unfortunately, the new Defence Minister — Arun Jaitley, who already held the finance portfolio — was unable to accept our invitation. We understand that this was because of his deep involvement in preparations for the imposition of GST,” Timothy Huxley, Executive director of IISS said in reply to questions from The Hindu.

Consequently India, that has attended 12 of the 16 Dialogues since 2002, had no speaker at the event this year, although Indian High Commissioner to Singapore Jawed Ashraf did attend all sessions of the conference.
Crucial bilateral talks

The Shangri-La Dialogue, funded and hosted by the Singapore government, is a unique “track-one” conference that defence ministers, officials and military chiefs of 28 Asia-Pacific countries, including China and the United States, attend each year.

While speaking at the event is considered important, the Dialogue is known more for the opportunity it gives speakers to meet on the sidelines for bilateral talks. India’s decision to pull out meant missing out on possible meetings with U.S. Defence Secretary James Mattis, which would have been significant ahead of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to the U.S. at the end of June, as well as meeting the defence ministers of Australia, Japan, Malaysia and Canada, amongst others who attended this year.
Islamabad unchallenged

India also gave up the chance to make a proper rebuttal of the presentation by Gen. Hayat on the $51 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a project India calls a violation of its sovereignty.

Speaking at the plenary session titled, ‘New Challenges For Crisis Management In The Asia-Pacific’, the General praised the CPEC and China’s Belt and Road Initiative, saying that they could “help resolve regional disputes”, as most countries in south and central Asia, apart from India, have joined the Chinese project.

Both the MEA and Singapore’s MFA sought to play down the differences over the event, with officials on both sides blaming IISS organisers for the “misunderstanding”. But the event has lent a sour note to traditionally friendly ties between India and Singapore, which had only a week before the Shangri-La Dialogue completed their week-long annual Maritime Bilateral Exercise (SIMBEX-17).

“The Singapore government took responsibility for what they called an ‘oversight’ in the programme, but the damage is done,” said the senior Indian official The Hindu spoke to, adding that a decision to re-engage with subsequent Shangri-La Dialogues would have to be taken at a very senior level in government. “It’s over for now,” the official said.

Meanwhile, IISS officials reportedly flew to Delhi this week to control the damage over the diplomatic faux pas. According to Mr. Huxley, a senior fellow of the Institute is “currently in New Delhi to engage with key stakeholders in the Indian security establishment. He will be working closely with the Indian government to ensure that India is fully represented at next year's SLD.”



http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/international-institute-of-strategic-studies-meeting-india-singapore-strain-over-shangri-la-dialogue-snub/article18955040.ece
 

Rogue Trader

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I already said that with Vivian's track record sinkieland risk becoming a hermit nation like North Korea. Confused half breed must have used his Indian snake double speak to talk to the Chinese and his Chinese high handedness to piss off the ah nehs
 

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This is more than a schoolboy error. Did the pantry staff draw up the panel list when a primary school kid can tell the difference between Minister of State and a senior member of the Armed Forces. What were the Mindef doing that no one noticed it. Don't tell me that they just turned up on the day and did what they had to do. Bloody morons. Noticed that the SPH brothel staff did not carry this story. They attended the sessions but they did not detect the error.

First his wife stuffed up as CEO of SGH Health allowing the death of so many kidney transplant patients and now this.
 

virus

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pls ask hen to explain who let the dog out. neh send a lowly officer and wanted the rostrum thinking he can grab crotches like trump

deport the bugger from sinkieland after jailing him 4 months for illegal entry lah.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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Yeah hopefully shit skins can fuck off from SG. I know some of you Chinese dogs will be damn sad including say scroobal.



India pulls out of Defence Dialogue threatening to sour "friendly ties between India and Singapore"


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Just when the bilateral ties between China and Singapore have become a bit better, another incident has threatened to sour the "friendly ties between India and Singapore".

This was reported by The Hindu on Sat (10 Jun),'Think tank snub clouds India-Singapore ties'. The Hindu is the second most circulated daily English-language mainstream newspaper in India, with average circulation of some 1.5 million.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...-shangri-la-dialogue-snub/article18955040.ece

It reported that the Indian delegation was pulled out of the recent Shangri-La Dialogue which was held early this month in Singapore over the ranking of Indian Minister. A perceived snub from the organizer of the event led to India’s decision to withdraw its entire delegation led by Indian Minister of State for Defence Subhash Bhamre, reported The Hindu. It has confirmed this with Indian officials.

According to the Indian senior officials privy to the decision, the organizer informed the Indian government that the Indian Minister Subhash Bhamre did not rank as highly as Pakistan’s Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, General Zubair Mahmood Hayat, as "civil military relations in Pakistan are different from those in India". As a result, Mr Bhamre who was filling in for Indian Defence Minister Arun Jaitley, would only be accommodated at a "plenary session" on the last day of the event, and not on one of the main panels as the Pakistani General Hayat was.

The Shangri-La Dialogue is organized by the non-partisan UK-based International Institute of Strategic Studies (IISS) think tank. The Hindu reported that the event was funded and hosted by the Singapore government. The annual event enables defence ministers, officials and military chiefs of 28 Asia-Pacific countries, including China and the United States, to meet together for bilateral talks. IISS helps run the conference for the Singapore Government.

India’s decision to pull out meant missing out on possible meetings with U.S. Defence Secretary James Mattis, which would have been significant ahead of Indian PM Modi’s visit to the U.S. at the end of June, as well as meeting the defence ministers of Australia, Japan, Malaysia and Canada, amongst others who attended this year.

Mishandling of event lends a sour note to "friendly ties between India and Singapore"

An Indian official told The Hindu, “Obviously, we were not going to accept this kind of differentiation between India and Pakistan."

Accordingly, the Indian High Commission in Singapore then informed the Singapore Ministry of Foreign Affairs that “under the circumstances”, India was pulling out of the event as the speaking slot confirmed was “not in line with their expectations”.

In a reply to The Hindu, the organizer IISS “regretted” the Indian decision, and said the Indian side had informed them late that Mr Bhamre had wanted to speak. The organizer said they had expected Indian Defence Minister Arun Jaitley to attend the event.

“Unfortunately, the new Defence Minister — Arun Jaitley, who already held the finance portfolio — was unable to accept our invitation. We understand that this was because of his deep involvement in preparations for the imposition of GST,” IISS said in its reply.

However, both India and Singapore sought to play down the differences over the event, with officials on both sides blaming IISS organizer for the “misunderstanding”.

"But the event has lent a sour note to traditionally friendly ties between India and Singapore, which had only a week before the Shangri-La Dialogue completed their week-long annual Maritime Bilateral Exercise," The Hindu said.

Indian official: Damage done

Singapore MFA also said it is "taking responsibility" over the mishandling of the event although it is unclear what it meant by "taking responsibility".

“The Singapore government took responsibility for what they called an 'oversight' in the programme, but the damage is done,” said the senior Indian official whom The Hindu spoke to.

The official added that a decision to re-engage with subsequent Shangri-La Dialogues would have to be taken at a very senior level in government. “It’s over for now,” the official said. In other words, it is unclear if India will be participating in future Dialogues held in Singapore.

https://www.facebook.com/1145683132...683132154203/1319628664759648/?type=3&theater
 

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please lor, imagine you have banquet at 5star hotel and your guest arrive in shabby shirt slippers no gibe face, fark him lah.
 

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Namaste my brethrens

This time round it is so clear India is the victim of such unfairness.
 

virus

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it was obvious that when we were at the loo shooting off at the urinal, the neh could hardly or can i say misfired and that gather a round of laughter but blame his neighbor from islamabad who has to turn around when he cheery and let go golden shower on the shorty neh.

am sure if shorty wrong cant sac was there he would get his fair share too.

such a let down... so small gas. dont come also better. now pple dont need to hold their breath in the lift.
 

frenchbriefs

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I can't believe this kind of thing also can cock up.

At this rate SG will make enemies of the whole world before LHL's retirement is up.

Singapore is a peesai in the first place,why we even bother sucking up to this people?if we were truly important u think they will dump us at the first "snub"?look at China and USA.
 

kryonlight

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Who the fuck cares about India & Pakistan? All these nuclear shitskins should nuke each other to oblivion.
 

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I can't believe this kind of thing also can cock up.

At this rate SG will make enemies of the whole world before LHL's retirement is up.

I don't think this is as simple as a cock up. Should be one of those tit for tat diplomatic games we're playing with ah neh land.

But i'm glad if we are distancing ourselves from ah neh land. any alliance with them have zero value - no wealth, no exportable industries, no special expertise, no resources. only abundance of cheap labour. And sinkieland can always score cheap labour from Asean
 

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I don't think this is as simple as a cock up. Should be one of those tit for tat diplomatic games we're playing with ah neh land.

But i'm glad if we are distancing ourselves from ah neh land. any alliance with them have zero value - no wealth, no exportable industries, no special expertise, no resources. only abundance of cheap labour. And sinkieland can always score cheap labour from Asean

No lah. It is that simple. Small countries who try to play too many things have not impact. Singapore is too small, not jew to have any impact on the world. Perceptions will be molded as the truth and all the mental masturbation of political play and intrigue with the maneuvering by a fly ends quickly with insecticide.
 

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India (and other countries) shouldn't just be angry with Singapore, but with Singaporeans! Why should a nation with millenia of history and culture give face to a Peesai whose citizens look down on their ancestral villages where they originated? Even the name Singapura originated from some Indian background! And because of a short spell of fortune that Peesai became wealthy and affluent, they snub at Ah Nehs, Ah Tiongs, Pinays, Mats, and almost every other non-white creed!

Judging by the way some foreigners have been treated by Singaporeans, Peesai should be nuked!!

Cheers!

Which country is happy with Singapore anyway?
 

nayr69sg

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India (and other countries) shouldn't just be angry with Singapore, but with Singaporeans! Why should a nation with millenia of history and culture give face to a Peesai whose citizens look down on their ancestral villages where they originated? Even the name Singapura originated from some Indian background! And because of a short spell of fortune that Peesai became wealthy and affluent, they snub at Ah Nehs, Ah Tiongs, Pinays, Mats, and almost every other non-white creed!

Judging by the way some foreigners have been treated by Singaporeans, Peesai should be nuked!!

Cheers!

Agree. But Singaporeans do not see themselves in that way. They are told repeatedly by their friends and fellow Singaporeans that they are number one.

Agarophobic, are you still living and working in Singapore?
 
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